"Not for first time owners!"

[allsierra123]

you should talk to breeders from other countries. the statement seems like an attitude that is usually only found in America. Ie my dog breed is special im special not everyone can do or handle what I do. Its just a way they like to use to make themselves feel important. I was turned down for having kids or working fulltime or a combination of both. In other countries dog are dogs especially working or guardian breeds.they have a.purpose and a job. And people obtain them for those reasons.


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[Duetsche_Doggen]

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you should talk to breeders from other countries. the statement seems like an attitude that is usually only found in America. Ie my dog breed is special im special not everyone can do or handle what I do. Its just a way they like to use to make themselves feel important. I was turned down for having kids or working fulltime or a combination of both. In other countries dog are dogs especially working or guardian breeds.they have a.purpose and a job. And people obtain them for those reasons.


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I actually agree with this that impression of American breeders can be a bit "controlling." When I was searching for another dane I often was met with abrasives responses, but that's just the dane community in general. I've only encountered one breeder overseas that was "hostile" when I inquired about their dogs over the course of 2 and half years of researching breeders.

Depending on the breed but usually my experience as well.

 

[TN Dogues]

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I agree that many of the mastiff breeds are not for first time owners.

As a breeder of DDBs, I require people have SOME dog experience. It really does help when it comes to potty training, dominance/agression issues, and being a good leader. People with less experience may either be too soft - or overly hard on their dogs which later leads to problems. DDBs need a confident owner - but a heavy handed owner will ruin them and make them fearful.

I also want to know who else lives in their household and what experience they have with large dogs.

So I spend alot of time talking on the phone and meeting with them in person. And I judge on a case by case basis.

Maybe I'm turning people away but I just can't pair a dog to the wrong person.

 

[jenny adams]

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hi i am a first time ddb owner i did my reading and asked lots of questions and yes my breeder asked me lots we visited and we got her 11 days ago and i still have asked questions are breeder is going to visit us and is at the end of the phone if we need her and will give me any help i need that is why we went with him we toked with one that would have sold me a puppy just with a phone call and did not ask me any questions or a visit i dismissed him there and then i was looking for a breeder that was going to be there if i needed help

 

[masteneo]

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If these dogs are so special , and we keep making litters, then as the Breeders its our responsibilty to help mintor potential "new " owners to this breed that they are newly smitten for. It cultivates a much deeper understanding of the breed, individual dog , and helps with unique problems the new owner may have. Lowers the chances of one of these "special" babys ending up in a pound. And it gives us a chance to help the breed reach new places. Its just a matter of us welcoming new people into our lives. A matter of us getting outside of our little controled world and making new friends, and opening our homes. We can all do this. IF we cant then we are not truelly being responsible ambasadors for our breeds. Then we are just a step above BYB.

 

[girldogue]

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If you find a kennel that works with protection dogs and has covered runs start boarding the dog there monthly as a youngster just for overnights so the dog does not freak out when it is older and you have to leave for a few days.

Camping trips would be easy but the business trips not so much. Although I don't have a job that requires traveling still I'd like to have contingency plan.

 

[newtocorsos]

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I'm sorry if this the wrong way to ask you a question i'm new to this site but feel that after looking at many of your posts you really seem to know your stuff! I have had 3 mastiff type dogs in the past and have been looking in to getting a Cane Corso! I have a very good home for it with all needs of a dog like this covered! I have spent so much time learning about the breed that i failed to know what to look for in a breeder! I found one close to me that will be having a litter soon (7 weeks) They have the color i like and seem like they are good breeders! I want to get a pet but i want a good dog i have got good dogs from the pound in the past but i have granchildren now and i dont think the pound is the right choice for me! the price is $1100 with all rights? that seems low to me the money is not my concern but more of wanting to get a healthy dog! What should i ask the breeder i have asked for kennel club numbers but they say they dont hand them out? It is his males first breeding (bad or good?) he says dogs will be I.C.C.F. papered i know what the registry is is there a way to look on I.C.C.F. website to see if this is true! I guess what im trying to ask is how can i tell if this is a breeder i should get my pup from? Please help should i even be looking into this breed if i dont know these simple question?

 

[masteneo]

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Ok it finally hit me , " thid dog is not recominded for uneducated owners, uneducated buyers need not call" i think that sums up this whole thread.

 

[Kate Williams]

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I'm sorry if this the wrong way to ask you a question i'm new to this site but feel that after looking at many of your posts you really seem to know your stuff! I have had 3 mastiff type dogs in the past and have been looking in to getting a Cane Corso! I have a very good home for it with all needs of a dog like this covered! I have spent so much time learning about the breed that i failed to know what to look for in a breeder! I found one close to me that will be having a litter soon (7 weeks) They have the color i like and seem like they are good breeders! I want to get a pet but i want a good dog i have got good dogs from the pound in the past but i have granchildren now and i dont think the pound is the right choice for me! the price is $1100 with all rights? that seems low to me the money is not my concern but more of wanting to get a healthy dog! What should i ask the breeder i have asked for kennel club numbers but they say they dont hand them out? It is his males first breeding (bad or good?) he says dogs will be I.C.C.F. papered i know what the registry is is there a way to look on I.C.C.F. website to see if this is true! I guess what im trying to ask is how can i tell if this is a breeder i should get my pup from? Please help should i even be looking into this breed if i dont know these simple question?

Health scores are a huge deal. You need to research a lot of breeders. Don't settle. Be sure you've met mum and dad. Their contract should include a health clause. They should be more than happy to see to it you have a healthy pup. Good luck, we adore our Corso.

 

[ruthcatrin]

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Health scores are a huge deal. You need to research a lot of breeders. Don't settle. Be sure you've met mum and dad. Their contract should include a health clause. They should be more than happy to see to it you have a healthy pup. Good luck, we adore our Corso.

My one quibble with that, I don't HAVE to meet the sire, but I want info on him so I can research him. Take BlackShadow's latest mating: She and the dam are up in Canada, the sire's in NJ USA. For potential puppy buyers meeting the sire isn't realistic. But she can give potential puppy buyers lots and lots of info on the sire. Thats fine.

 

[Burnaby BC]

"Not for first time owners!"

Well ya can't become experienced if you don't have your first one. The breeder I bought Benny from didn't say no but I can't imagine why she would have. I think the breeder needs to meet the prospective buyer and feel them out.

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Oo got a EM and not a Fila mind you

 

[Burnaby BC]

"Not for first time owners!"

Oo got a EM and not a Fila mind you

 

[Cody]

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@ newtocorso
What is the name of the kennel? Are they in the States? If so I would ask to see health scores, titles be it conformation/working or temperament testing on the parents. Ask why they are registered with the ICCF and not the AKC. those are some starters. Color should not be a basis on your decision alone, yes everyone has a preference but type and temp should be more important. Good luck on your search.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

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Ok it finally hit me , " thid dog is not recominded for uneducated owners, uneducated buyers need not call" i think that sums up this whole thread.

Sorry I should have picked a better title for the post.

My one quibble with that, I don't HAVE to meet the sire, but I want info on him so I can research him. Take BlackShadow's latest mating: She and the dam are up in Canada, the sire's in NJ USA. For potential puppy buyers meeting the sire isn't realistic. But she can give potential puppy buyers lots and lots of info on the sire. Thats fine.

I agree with Ruth, to get a quality stud that has what you want to bring to your program you often have to travel to the male or import his "goods" so often meeting the male isn't possible. We did travel for our pairing (male is actually from PA but we met up in Jersey to get Danae and Big daddy D came for the drive )

When it comes to researching, make your list of what you wanted to see in a breeder and what you are willing to settle on for the right pair. Check on the health of the parents, see if they are showing/working their dogs, ask why this pair, etc. stuff like that. In the end you are the only one that is going to be able to decide if they are providing what you want for your future puppy.

 

[jcook]

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My boyfriend has owned and trained more dogs than me, but he his training privileges for my CC have been suspended until he can adopt my preferred training methods. I am very dedicated to educating myself about the breed and he simply isn't, so if you were to ask me, I would hope that a breeder would not sell him a CC. He needs to realize that each breed is different and he thinks that he can just use "common sense" methods for training, smh.

 

[Gunny]

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Gunny was the first dog I've ever had. I'm not one to give up on anything though, so I knew no matter what we'd be fine with him. I have contacted a few CC breeders around TX though and have never heard back from them. I don't know if it's because I haven't owned one before or what, but it's kind of frustrating.

 

[newtocorsos]

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thank you

 

[Beverly]

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i agree, but also i think how a person takes care of and handles the dog or dogs they have should also be taken into consideration. if they are doing great with what they have and being responsible and doing the trainiing then that should show a breeder that they are dedicated to the undertaking.

this is not intended to offend anyone but the applications i have been running across in my search for a corso pup is kinda sad, it is the same application on every site that has one. they are all canned questions that make me wonder how they help a breeder determine if the person is a good candate for their pups.

 

[Cody]

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i agree, but also i think how a person takes care of and handles the dog or dogs they have should also be taken into consideration. if they are doing great with what they have and being responsible and doing the trainiing then that should show a breeder that they are dedicated to the undertaking.

this is not intended to offend anyone but the applications i have been running across in my search for a corso pup is kinda sad, it is the same application on every site that has one. they are all canned questions that make me wonder how they help a breeder determine if the person is a good candate for their pups.

The application is just a starting point.
Most good breeders will require a few phone conversations prior to their decision.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

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Most you the applications as a weeding out process. They are long and there are lots of questions, if you aren't will to take the time to fill one out then that shows something to the breeder. It also gives a starting point of getting to know you. I print out all my applications and make notes on them and then contact the applicants by phone to start to build a relationship with them and that way if there are any other questions I have I get immediate answers. It gives me a chance to get to you the people better and for them to get to know me.