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Serbian defensive dog

DMikeM

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They look like Rottweilers.
Here is mine.
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SerbianDog Rina&Don

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They look like Rottweilers.
Some dogs have similarities with Rottweilers,because Rottweilers took part in creations of SDD.SDD is a young breed, and in short time they can not get 100% uniform dogs.The good thing is that as time passes there are more and more uniform SDD in look(exterior) and character.Today in Serbia SDD is more and more popular dog, people decide to choose SDD before the Doberman,Cane Corso ...
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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Dogman, really!! Unbelievable that's sad and embarrassing at the same time. Although I'm pretty my dogs can be stolen too. :D

Rina&Don, you are right once a breed is recognized and standardized it will be ruined. Past working dog breeds have proven so. Even if it does happen there will still be good breeders who preserve the work ethic.
 

SerbianDog Rina&Don

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Dogman, really!! Unbelievable that's sad and embarrassing at the same time. Although I'm pretty my dogs can be stolen too. :D

Rina&Don, you are right once a breed is recognized and standardized it will be ruined. Past working dog breeds have proven so. Even if it does happen there will still be good breeders who preserve the work ethic.
It is in nobody's interest to breed be officially recognized.If SDD lose the character and the purpose of the dog will be lost to.SDD is guard dog,and without character they cant be guard dogs.

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DMikeM

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It is in nobody's interest to breed be officially recognized.If SDD lose the character and the purpose of the dog will be lost to.SDD is guard dog,and without character they cant be guard dogs.

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WTH! is that from Aliens VS Preditors? I thought Dozer had long canine teeth! So the long teeth come from the Rottweiler side?

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In case you don't know what the Predator is.
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Atlas_Mama

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They look like my rottweiler X pit cross breed...

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Some dogs have similarities with Rottweilers,because Rottweilers took part in creations of SDD.SDD is a young breed, and in short time they can not get 100% uniform dogs.The good thing is that as time passes there are more and more uniform SDD in look(exterior) and character.Today in Serbia SDD is more and more popular dog, people decide to choose SDD before the Doberman,Cane Corso ...
Not being cynical- totally serious question-- what is the need to make the new dog breed in this day and age? Why not a Fila? Or any of the other protection breeds already out there if that is the goal?
 

Atlas_Mama

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Some dogs have similarities with Rottweilers,because Rottweilers took part in creations of SDD.SDD is a young breed, and in short time they can not get 100% uniform dogs.The good thing is that as time passes there are more and more uniform SDD in look(exterior) and character.Today in Serbia SDD is more and more popular dog, people decide to choose SDD before the Doberman,Cane Corso ...
Not being cynical- totally serious question-- what is the need to make the new dog breed in this day and age? Why not a Fila? Or any of the other protection breeds already out there if that is the goal?
 

CaneCorso

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I haven't been reading this whole thread, but what was the purpose of breeding wolves into the SDD? Was it for the unnaturally large canines(teeth) ? Because it seems in a guard dog wolves' temperament would be counter productive as wolves tend to be afraid of people and tend to choose flight over fight so to speak meaning if they are challenged and put to the test that most guard dogs a wolf would be pushed to the point of fear biting. I know the wolf blood in them is probably very limited, and long in the past, but why use it in the first place? Sorry if this has already been covered.
 

allsierra123

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Why the large canines do they have a purpose or just a trait they randomly have?

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SerbianDog Rina&Don

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First, the dog from the pictures I posted, that long canine teeth are rare in the SDD, and the dog from the pictures is the only with such teeth(As far as I know)
Another thing, I was not even born when mr.Nenad Gavrilovic started working on the creation of the breed, and it was the 1980th.SDD officially exists since 1991.I was born in 1991 and I can't tell you what is needed to create the breed.As for the wolf, was used at the beginning of creation, first of all because of the health and immunity.As far as genetics, the wolf and the dog are the same .Lot of other breeds have wolf in it and I do not see it as a problem.I forgot to say that perhaps the most important thing, SDD is not a new breed, it is a "reconstruction" of the old Serbian Mastiff.
I'll try soon as possible to explain in detail the way that Mr.Nenad Gavrilovic "revived" old Serbian breed dog.
And if you don't understand me, It's because of my bad English
 
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CaneCorso

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No worries about your English. All breeds stem from the wolf, but not many have wolf in their reconstruction. I also realize that you did not create the breed. I'm just curious how recently was the wolf blood bred into the breed? 10 years ? 20?
 

SerbianDog Rina&Don

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First, breeds that have participated in the reconstruction of the old Serbian Mastiff: Neapolitan Mastiff, Rottweiler, Serbian shepherd dog TORNJAK, American Staffordshire Terrier, which was added because of the persistence and bravery and finally a wolf.Known fact is that the Sheepdogs historically bred with wolfs.That dogs were healthier, among other senses are sharpened.Nenad Gavrilovic was began "reconstruction" of breed by crossing wolves with this shepherd dogs, which are present in the entire Balkan's.That crossbreeds of wolf and Shepherd dog later been bred with a Rottweiler.Another line of breeding went by wolves bred with the Neapolitan Mastiff.Later, crossbreeds from a combination of "wolf - neapolitan mastiff" were bred "wolf - shepherd - rottweiler" crossbreads.Dogs from the combination Wolf - Neapolitan Mastiff were aggressive towards people and to animals.On the other hand dogs from a combination of wolf - Shepherd dog, had been calm and less aggressive.It is important to note that they have always made ​​duplicate combinations : father Wolf and mother Shepherd dog,and father Shepherd dog and mother Wolf.Later in the breeding inserted and American Staffordshire Terrier...Serbian special police unit uses the SDD.
One of the most famous owner of the SDD is Diego Maradona, who got the dog as a gift.SDD is not a new breed, SDD is the reconstruction of the old Serbian Mastiff.
 
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chuckorlando

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Are there still folks mix breeding these? Or are they more or less now working towards a standard look and temp via existing stock?
 

SerbianDog Rina&Don

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My dogs

male Don,one year old,height 73cm,weight over 55kg



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Don, one and half month old and now


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female Rina,one year and nine months old,height 66-67cm,weight 53 kg.


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No worries about your English. All breeds stem from the wolf, but not many have wolf in their reconstruction. I also realize that you did not create the breed. I'm just curious how recently was the wolf blood bred into the breed? 10 years ? 20?
As far as I know, the wolf was used in the beginning of reconstruction, and it was from 1981 to 1991.It is impossible to calculate the percentage of wolf blood in the SDD, but some say it is about 5%.Russian scientists also claim that the dog would be ideal if have in it 10-15% of the genetic material of the wolf.