Serbian defensive dog

Discussion in 'General Mastiff Discussion' started by serbiandefancedog, Nov 30, 2012.

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  1. serbiandefancedog

    serbiandefancedog New Member

    Serbian Defensive Dog is a dog race, created in Romanija mountain, by interbreeding wolfs, Mastiff of Napoli, rotwiler, Tornjak of Bosnia, and American Stafford terrier. Interbreeding was concluded in 1991, and that is the year of founding The Serbian Defensive Dog race.
    Each race, used in interbreeding of SDD, lived in Balkan sometime in the past. Celts lived in Balkan, so decision was made to interbreed American Stafford terrier (terrier - Irish national dog race), which is strong and brave dog. Romans lived in Balkan later. They brought their dogs. Rotwiller and Mastiff of Napoli are direct descendants of Roman dogs. Tornjak of Bosnia is traditional Serbian dog, and wolfs naturally coupled with them.
    Serbian Defensive Dog is restored race of Serbian middle age country. There are old people in Serbia who will tell us stories about old national Serbian race, dogs called by their color, not by race name. Today, there is no much need for sheep-dogs, so these dogs are almost vanished. Nenad Gavrilovic did the selection and reconstruction of that Serbian race. He gave the name for the race: Serbian Defensive Dog (Srpski Odbrambeni Pas).
    Serbian Defensive Dog is excellent property (and person) keeper. Also, SDD can be turned into an ideal home pet. SDD is very tough in battle. Great speed, size and weight are main attributes of an SDD. Trained, SDD is committed only to it's owner and it's territory, SDD is able to sacrifice it's life for owner. There is no need for special defense and attacking training. It's nature is very stable. These dogs are very brave and they act quickly. Puppies must be treated with lot of care. Force must not be used during training.
    Serbian Defensive Dog is 70 - 75 cm tall, 50 - 70 kg heavy, usually black, yellow or gray. Hair is mid-long, solid with underhair, head is massive, and body is musculous.


    http://srpskiodbrambenipasprodaja.blogspot.com/2011/08/srpski-odbrambeni-pas-prodaja-stenaca.html
     
  2. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    Welcome to the forum.
    Interesting mix of dog BREEDS (not race). You only show pups, any adults to look at? How does this new BREED act around other dogs and strangers?
    Just for your second language use. Race would be all dogs where breed would be the type of dog.
     
  3. masteneo

    masteneo New Member

    man , we just had a small discussion about this breed. Hey mike , i get the feeling that in Serbia they call breeds, races. just an odd observation. Wow, this dog reminds me of a filas temperament. At least thats what i am getting from in the end off the description. Not alot of folks have info on this dog. I would like to hear more. And hey throw some pics in so i will pay attention.
     
  4. Duetsche_Doggen

    Duetsche_Doggen New Member

    I agree masteneo, seems like the OP's first language is different than ours. Either way we knew what the OP was talking about.

    Sounds like an awesome dog though, then again I see where its from. Hard people, hard dogs.
     
  5. lukas

    lukas New Member

    [video=youtube;Bv97oGo8Yf8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv97oGo8Yf8[/video]
    This is a female SDD.
    [video=youtube;8-sSIVj7zcc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-sSIVj7zcc[/video]
    A males growth.
    [video=youtube;ZJThCkfv6t0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJThCkfv6t0[/video]
    A male in training.
     
  6. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    Wasn't trying to lift my leg on his post, just giving a friendly lesson for his second language so others would have a better understanding of his point.

    Lol lift leg on post...... bwhahahahah:D
     
  7. Duetsche_Doggen

    Duetsche_Doggen New Member

    I don't care for the dog in the first video, the OB is solid on the third dog though. Great work.
     
  8. DMikeM

    DMikeM Active Member

    Yep I agree on first dog. The test was scary and careless. The dog redirected 2 times towards the handeler that I could see outright. Third vid great heal and obediance work.
     
  9. masteneo

    masteneo New Member

    yeah that was pretty careless and scary. And as usual someone found it fun and worth while. I guess i am becoming an old stick in the mud.
     
  10. lukas

    lukas New Member

    From what I gathered from the description the dog is not aggressive but responding to provocation. But I see no reaction or command from the handler so I don't really like it either. That's the problem with strong and big dogs. A lot of the owners buy and make them aggressive on purpose. That's why a lot of dogs have bad reputation but 90% of the dogs character comes from the owner and training.
     
  11. masteneo

    masteneo New Member

    I second that , Lukas
     
  12. chuckorlando

    chuckorlando New Member

    In most cases I'd likely agree. But in the case of a dog that needs no training to react to a perceived threat, there should'nt need to be any command. It also may be damned near impossible to turn that kinda dog off as well. And a guy with his hands over his head had better be perceived as a threat. If thats really what the breed is meant to be, I aint sure anything in that vid is "making it aggressive" .

    Smart maybe not so much. Impressive, not so much. The dog in the 3rd vid was impressive. But if these are fila like in temp, having that dog off leash was far more foolish than the 1st vid. Someone just running at them should be considered a threat. And that dog aint worth a damn if waits for a command to handle a threat.
     
  13. masteneo

    masteneo New Member

    things to ponder
     
  14. Roansdad

    Roansdad New Member

    Well said
    +1
     
  15. lukas

    lukas New Member

    Well, if that was the case there would be much more bloodshed in the streets. :) The difference between a, let say, a trained Cane Corso or some other mastiff and a APBT with somebody with no experience is their reaction to the environment. Owning a protective breed is like owning a gun. You don't pull it out every time somebody shouts. The same way that a dog should not react to every situation. It should be able to perceive the difference in the handlers behavior, the different smell and sound of a perceived attacker and react instinctively. Dog can smell fear and aggression. And, in the end, every dog will follow and copy the behavior of the alpha male. If you are uninterested in somebody, no matter how he behaves, the dog will do the same.
     
  16. Roansdad

    Roansdad New Member

    I can't agree, I'm sorry. If I'm sitting on a bench writin a post with my on here with my IPhone head down not aware o my surroundings an someone comes up with intentions of stealing my cell wallet watch.....a dog like this or a Fila sure as heck better be on top of things befor I've even looked up ya sure they are like a loaded gun. But a gun that can assess and take care of the situation at hand. Ask one of the Fila owners on here if they would need to give any command or reaction for their dog to react. My understanding is they do not and that it is in the breeding that they react this way. For them not to us undesirable and would be considered a fault in the Fila
     
  17. chuckorlando

    chuckorlando New Member

    Either your mis understanding me or are unfamiliar with what a Fila is. Because my statements are based solely on the thought they had a temp much as a fila. You dont pull out a fila like a trained dog. Which is my whole point in the non leashed one. If they are like a fila then that was a huge mistake. Once a fila precieves a threat it reacts. You dont say kill em. I have pictures of Kona going at my buddy cause he picked up a golf club he just found. And once they turn on, you dont just say sit and end it. So if this dog is like a fila in their temp, I stand by exactly what I said. The reason Filas aint killing people in the streets is cause good fils owners dont hang out in the streets.
     
  18. dogman#1

    dogman#1 Active Member

    correct.
     
  19. serbiandefancedog

    serbiandefancedog New Member

    [video=youtube;wsROvzzyJoA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsROvzzyJoA[/video]

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  20. serbiandefancedog

    serbiandefancedog New Member

    [video=youtube;f2qIVLF59kc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2qIVLF59kc&feature=plcp[/video]
     

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