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Please Help Our 1 yr old male English Mastiff bit our daughter

LauraR

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First of yes we thought that he bit my child! After a review of the injury by not only the ER DOCTOR and HER REGULAR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER SHE WAS NOT BITTEN BY HIM!!! I HAVE THAT IN WRITING FROM BOTH DOCTORS!!!
YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDNT READ THE WHOLE DAMN THREAD!!!! AND NO MY CHILD DIDNT BITE HERSELF!!! WHEN TWO DOCTORS SAY THAT HER INJURY IS FROM A PAW, UNLESS YOU ARE A DOCTOR AND HAVE STUDIED ANIMAL BITES GET OUT OF THIS THREAD. AND THEN TO TELL ME TO GIVE MY DOG UP IS CRAZY. EVEN ON THE PAPERWORK AND REPORT THAT WAS FILED IT SAYS THAT IT WAS A PAW SCRATCH NOT A BITE! AND YES I AM WORKING ON GETTING COPIES OF THE PAPERWORK.

Amanda, I can understand why you are upset, but please know that this is the opinion of one person. Look at all of the people here supporting you. There is enough going on in your life right now that you shouldn't worry about what one single individual's personal opinions are. You know what is best for you and your family, don't let some random person on the internet tell you different.
I am glad to see that you are getting paperwork documenting the scratch. Unfortunately that probably won't secure his early release because of rabies(even though he was vaccinated in some places it is just standard procedure), but it will be handy to have in the future if any one tries to accuse your dog of being a trouble maker. I would also document your encounters with the shelter. Always be prepared for anything.
 

amandahorn

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Amanda, I can understand why you are upset, but please know that this is the opinion of one person. Look at all of the people here supporting you. There is enough going on in your life right now that you shouldn't worry about what one single individual's personal opinions are. You know what is best for you and your family, don't let some random person on the internet tell you different.
I am glad to see that you are getting paperwork documenting the scratch. Unfortunately that probably won't secure his early release because of rabies(even though he was vaccinated in some places it is just standard procedure), but it will be handy to have in the future if any one tries to accuse your dog of being a trouble maker. I would also document your encounters with the shelter. Always be prepared for anything.

Thanks LauraR! I wanted the documentation just in case and I have been documenting everything from the start of the situation that way I can be prepared! I have a file for Diesel where all of his vet visit documentation, shot records and all of that go and I have been documenting and putting all the paperwork in his file that way I know where it is, just in case I would ever need it.
 

LauraR

Well-Known Member
I am glad to hear that you are being so prepared. I pray you'll never need any of it, but better safe than sorry!
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
Aww... I miss all the fun...

I'm on your side, Amanda.
In fact, and I mean no offense here, I think you might have overacted by taking the kid to the ER. Please don't fault me for that, I'm just a hard ass dad. :) "Are you guts spilling out? Then put a band-aid on it!"
My kids have been scuffed up one side and down the other from my dogs. Nothing malicious from the dogs standpoint mind you. Just my kids being idiots. Cause kids are usually idiots.
"Quit laying on the dog, quit laying on the dog, quit laying on the dog, qui... SEE! I TOLD YOU!" (Dog had enough and stood up quickly, knocking my daughter off the couch and busting her lip) Two sides need to learn how to live together, humans (no matter how old) and the dogs.

Now if this would have been something different, say it was a bite or something vicious, then my tune would be different.

I hope the best for you guys, and hope the pup comes home soon!
 

amandahorn

Well-Known Member
Aww... I miss all the fun...

I'm on your side, Amanda.
In fact, and I mean no offense here, I think you might have overacted by taking the kid to the ER. Please don't fault me for that, I'm just a hard ass dad. :) "Are you guts spilling out? Then put a band-aid on it!"
No offense taken at all, I did overact by taking Alyssa to the er. I have no problem admitting that lol. To be honest it could have all be prevented had I not taken her, but when there is an open wound I was always taught to error on the side of caution, my thing was I was afraid of infection.
 

LauraR

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Dads are like that sometimes bull, lol! Mom's are like "OMG your breath smells funny and your eyes are puffy! We're going to the doctor ASAP!", most of the times we are pretty dead on with that. For example, I just described my children's first sign of strep throat. However, the other parts of the time I know that I can over react slightly. Me, well I won't go to the hospital/doctor unless I'm dying, like literally going to die. My kids, well I'm okay with being slightly over reacting to their injuries/sicknesses.
 

bullyhillmama

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i understand your fears... my oldest dog (at the moment) is 10, but back when she was 3 or so, she started to become dog aggressive and aggressive toward animals in general. she killed 2 cats, it was devastating. she is a large pit mix (some have speculated mastiff type), and i was concerned and afraid, so i hired a "professional" behaviorist who guaranteed she could help. not only did she NOT HELP becuase she was afraid of the dog (who had NEVER been aggressive toward humans), she had no working experience with pit type dogs, especially the "gamey" ones like my dog, and she was a dingbat. she went so far as to send a letter to my vet saying that the dog was dangerous, that she was "very concerned that the dog lived with a child", etc.. she recommended that i rehome or euthanize the dog. i was HORRIFIED. i had to call the vet, in tears, and explain that my dog was not a danger to my child.. i had nightmares that the child welfare folks would show up at my door and take my baby :( that never happened, for the record. anyway, i found a GOOD trainer after that debacle who helped us tons. Marleigh is old now, has "raised" 3 human babies, is a dream with the kids, and (while she still does not "like" other dogs and would love to chase all the fuzzy critters) she has been trained to have self control, follow commands and is living a happy, fulfilled life in our home. i debated rehoming her, but i discovered that the only people interested in a large dog aggressive pit dog were scumbags, and i was afraid for her safety in their hands. she was MY responsibility from the moment i rescued her, and had a home been available with decent folks who genuinely would have cared for her, i would have taken it. but it didnt happen. we worked through the issue, and its still work years later. but i dont regret it a bit. you will find your way in this, and itll be alright, i swear :)
 

LauraR

Well-Known Member
i understand your fears... my oldest dog (at the moment) is 10, but back when she was 3 or so, she started to become dog aggressive and aggressive toward animals in general. she killed 2 cats, it was devastating. she is a large pit mix (some have speculated mastiff type), and i was concerned and afraid, so i hired a "professional" behaviorist who guaranteed she could help. not only did she NOT HELP becuase she was afraid of the dog (who had NEVER been aggressive toward humans), she had no working experience with pit type dogs, especially the "gamey" ones like my dog, and she was a dingbat. she went so far as to send a letter to my vet saying that the dog was dangerous, that she was "very concerned that the dog lived with a child", etc.. she recommended that i rehome or euthanize the dog. i was HORRIFIED. i had to call the vet, in tears, and explain that my dog was not a danger to my child.. i had nightmares that the child welfare folks would show up at my door and take my baby :( that never happened, for the record. anyway, i found a GOOD trainer after that debacle who helped us tons. Marleigh is old now, has "raised" 3 human babies, is a dream with the kids, and (while she still does not "like" other dogs and would love to chase all the fuzzy critters) she has been trained to have self control, follow commands and is living a happy, fulfilled life in our home. i debated rehoming her, but i discovered that the only people interested in a large dog aggressive pit dog were scumbags, and i was afraid for her safety in their hands. she was MY responsibility from the moment i rescued her, and had a home been available with decent folks who genuinely would have cared for her, i would have taken it. but it didnt happen. we worked through the issue, and its still work years later. but i dont regret it a bit. you will find your way in this, and itll be alright, i swear :)

The canine world needs more people like you. Thank you for not giving up and sticking with it. I'm sure it is very rewarding in the end to know that you didn't give up on him/her and seeing your hard work pay off. Kudos.
 

bullyhillmama

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im actually very thankful for her, because of the opportunity she presented to me to learn... before her i was a dog owner, a dog lover, even a dog person, but she made me a real dog handler. i HAD to learn because her life depended on it. and i have yet to meet another dog like her (thankfully... whew!!) but she laid the groundwork for us to help many dogs since. im no genius, and not a professional in any way, but i love to work with the dogs and make something out of what many would consider a waste of space. i dont get foolish and take chances with dangerous dogs in hopes of a miracle, but there are many dogs that just need a helping hand to be amazing.. i hope that amanda can learn form this, and maybe someday she can help out a family who is going through this, too. one love, gotta share it :)
 

amandahorn

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i hope that amanda can learn form this, and maybe someday she can help out a family who is going through this, too. one love, gotta share it :)
I have learned so much thru this whole situation! One thing that I can say if anything ever happens like this again, I will make sure there is a need to seek medical attention and not overreact like I did in this situation. I wasnt sure what to do, I had no clue and now I know and have learned valuable lessons from this situation.
 

STEVSH

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I can totally understand where you are coming from. I am a mother of a six yr old too and probably would have flipped out seeing those wounds on my child and done the same thing. Hubby would have taken the dog to the woods and shot her for sure if he saw that on his daughter. It's an initial reaction that parents get and I wouldn't know for sure what to do either. Live and learn.

I'm glad that it wasn't a bite and your sweetie Diesel gets to come home!
 

NeSaxena

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Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!:cowboyclap: Congratulations, Amanda! I've been stalking this thread, considering everyone else who's opinion I value had already posted, but kudos to your strength and perseverance! :claptomusic:I know how painful it is to be away from your baby, whether two or four legged, and I'm glad everything's working out okay!:thewave2:

Party time!!!! :party4::cheerleader3::dance2::band::celebrate::party:
 

amandahorn

Well-Known Member
UPDATE :D
We as a family went to see Diesel today, and while we were there one of the girls that works weekends at the Shelter approached us and asked us if we could switch Diesel's food bowl out for her because he was being a butthead and wouldnt go outside for her so she could clean his kennel. She told me she would unlock the kennel and step out so I could take care of him and the kennel!!!! SO MOMMY GOT TO GO IN A ACTUALLY PET AND LOVE ON HER BABY TODAY!!!! I was so excited and so was our big boy!!! I told the girl that I would be out tomorrow to see him and that if she wanted I would take care of feeding him and all of that again ( I just wanna be able to go back in the kennel with him to love on him so more). She said she was perfectly okay with that!!! Keith (my husband) was able to go in the kennel as well with our baby! All Diesel could to was lick me and lick me some more!!! I cleaned out his kennel and gave him fresh food n water while we were there and gave him lots and lots of love!!!! He was so happy!!! The bad thing is when I was allowed to go in he thought that he was coming home with us. :( I told him we would see him tomorrow and he sat and watched us walk out without barking like he knows that he will see us tomorrow.......

One another note I talked to the girl that was there today and she said that I can talk to Issac (the guy that is normally there thru the week, the one I have been dealing with when visiting) and she said that if he okays it then she can meet me out there at 7pm on the 24th (which is when legally Diesel can be bonded out of doggy jail) and I can pick him up then instead of waiting until the 25th at 9 am...... So you know what I will be doing Monday when I go to visit Diesel! I will be begging Issac to allow me to pick him up on the 24th:pray:. Right now tho as it stands he will come home on the 25th bc they are only at the shelter until 6pm on the 24th. I will keep you guys updated on what I find out Monday after I visit!
 
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DMikeM

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You got some tears from me Amanda, it must be heart wrenching to leave him each time. But remember each visit is another day closer to having him home.