Favorite Corso out there?

[terzo corso]

Thankfully now it seems there is a resergence of the Mastino or "flour" in most kennels. With the return of Vito Indiveri and more of the old timers speaking out the breed is beginning to return to what it was, thankfully. Hopefully it stays and continues.
Here is a link to one of my fav males in Italy.
http://www.canecorsocastrignano.com/achille.htm
He is out of the kennel that Aurora's dad is from. An old school family who have continued breeding over generations to the dogs in their area.

What is 'flour"? Heard it used before,never asked what it meant?

Looked through the males in this kennel......If had to choose one, I'd go with tuco personally, with achilles a close second.

That said, I don't like the rear structure(muscle,balance) on any of those dogs, and it's understood that they are all picture poses(but there are no rear shots either). They even lean toward being 'cow hockish" as far as I can tell. The problem with that is not cosmetic in my book.....but with that structure i dont see those dogs being able to sustain any longe range running for too long, and looks like it would affect agility as well.

Respectfully, with a nod to your experience- and BlackshadowCC......... with the mention of breeding to standards being brought up often here.......these dogs meet the standard in working and conformation? The females?

 

[terzo corso]

Met him in person at a National CC Show a couple years back.

Definitely stood out in a crowd, great dog.




Gold Grand Champion Maximo's Jack TT CAL1 TDI
http://www.potrerocanecorso.com/male-corsos.html

 

[terzo corso]

Favorite - Blast from the past...

The agility and size from a mastiff that I just knew I had to ownray:


[h=1]PRIMUS DEL COLOSSEO[/h]
http://italiancanecorso.com/primus.html

 

[E1kpo]

Favorite - Blast from the past...

The agility and size from a mastiff that I just knew I had to ownray:


[h=1]PRIMUS DEL COLOSSEO[/h]
http://italiancanecorso.com/primus.html

Met him in person at a National CC Show a couple years back.

Definitely stood out in a crowd, great dog.




Gold Grand Champion Maximo's Jack TT CAL1 TDI
http://www.potrerocanecorso.com/male-corsos.html

Can I ask you a thing ? You posted 2 dogs that have nothing in common,I think is under the eyes of everyone..Why?I'm just curious to know what american people think of the mutation of the breed..The second one you posted is simply a fattier boxer.Not a cane corso. Underbite,head even fur colour..The other one is better but too small for being a cane corso

 

[terzo corso]

Howdy E1kpo,

Please be more specific with your question to me, because I'm not sure what you are asking.

thanks,regards

t

 

[E1kpo]

Howdy E1kpo,

Please be more specific with your question to me, because I'm not sure what you are asking.

thanks,regards

t

Maybe i wrote nosense things,excuse me mr. , english isn't my first language I'm just surprised by the fact that you posted two dogs that are in strong contrast , talking by type..I don't understand only this thing..Why you like old times cc,true cc,but than you post that modern dog that has nothing to do with the oroginal kind,the old one,but remembers more a boxer that a CC.Hope I wrote something with sense this time

 

[terzo corso]

Why you like old times cc,true cc

To be honest E1kpo, Not really sure I know a true cc when I see one. I do have a few friends and acquaintances, who, like you and others in this thread have a 'eye' for a real CC that is very keen. They'll quickly say-just like you that a dog is too 'inboxeratti' or something like that lol, or is too much BullMastiffy. So in a nutshell to answer this.....I don't know too much better, and have always just liked a good 'cc looking dog' ......annnnd sometimes the ones I do admire/comment on just happen to be the real mcCoy.

than you post that modern dog that has nothing to do with the oroginal kind,the old one,but remembers more a boxer that a CC.

Now in regards to the second dog posted(Jack)....as I said, at a 2-3 day (USA)National Corso Show - this Corso drew my attention at First Sight more than the rest in looks, size and mobility(saw him leap in back of his truck)....no more explanation than that really. The thing that later on solidified my fandom of him, was when i saw him walk from the conformation rings, take a rest.......then stroll on over 100 yards to the Working Dog trials being conducted at the same time and entered into those. Not sure how many other of the Conformation Competitors manged to make that same short walk over to evaluate the Working Temperment of their Corsi(lines). A CC that can do BOTH.....will always get the blue ribbon, undoubtedly, over any other in my book.

Also, this has to be 2 years ago at least, let us not forget that some dogs do get more pronounced features as they mature and we all(humans and dogs) get bigger and thicker aka = fatter, as we age. Pictures don't always do a dog justice either as we all know.....some of the dogs I mentioned earlier may look different/better/worse in person....and that'd be be cool with me to get over there to see them! just so happens I'm waiting on my very first passport to arrive soon, hope to use it as much as my drivers license.

 

[terzo corso]

'Cheeky Boy"Ciccio - learning to search for criminals - YouTube


'Cheeky Boy' here absolutely ranks in my top five of all time....2 more to go
[pics used with personal permission of Il Contado Molise]

 

[E1kpo]

Now I like you buddy ciccio is simply the best alive at the moment..He is how every cane corso should look like..Kind of different from the brinde dog you posted A mix of beauty and force..Def a cane corso!!Too bad that he wouldn't even be considered in standard..But when you see him you can say only two things :
A) He is a cane corso

B) He is a grey brinde bear ! Ahahahahahah

It's all about the head..Look at ciccio's one..And than to that champion..Which one gives you idea of only one race,and which remwmbers you of a mix of others?

 

[terzo corso]

It's all about the head..Look at ciccio's one..And than to that champion..Which one gives you idea of only one race,and which remwmbers you of a mix of others?

Well doggone it.....I think you just made it crystal clear to me.

Funny how you made me understand by posting in not your first language...........what my English speaking friends couldn't get through my head for years now. Seriously.

thank ya kindly

 

[E1kpo]

Well doggone it.....I think you just made it crystal clear to me.

Funny how you made me understand by posting in not your first language...........what my English speaking friends couldn't get through my head for years now. Seriously.

thank ya kindly

It's pretty easy to understand..A cane corso is something like..Woa look at that dog..He isn't a mastiff he isn't a boxer he is something i've never seen but dam i love it.A cane corso Loom the omes i've posted above..Caane corso isn't nothing more that a lighter mastino napoletano..A mix of races (mastino abruzzese mastino napoletano even italian greyhound)..He didn't have any kimd of fixed kind..If you are intrested i cam suggest you a book "the catch and hold dog in Italy (il cane da corso)" by paolo Breber..The founder of the race..The one who took the lights on the race,that in a book (IMPORTANT NOTE : Book is in full english language ,with so many photos that can make understand what peoole did for the God money..How corso became..NOTE 2:In the book there are 3 photos of ciccio ) it's 13 €..But tells you the TRUE HISTORTLY of the race..Without any interest in any kennel..Because he saw what people were doing and leaved the project..I can tell you that in some bloodlones you cam find german shepard you know why?In manfredonia (the most famous city ffor cc fights, the most famous for cc bloodlines) there was a g.s. who killed all the other fights..We can say a mmh 3X Ch in pit talking..Well guess what?Many corso breeders gave him the bitches because they wanted the genes of that dog..I've sayd it earlier and i'll say it again : C c is the italian pitbull..

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Those books are very important for learning about the breed. My friend has both the English and Italian and I got an english version a couple weeks ago when Stefano Gandolfi was over to judge at our club show, as well as Peppino Accrogliano. It was a great experience to talk to two of the the people who play a big part with the breed in Italy. Lots of interesting stuff to see through their eyes and to experience it during their judging.

 

[E1kpo]

Those books are very important for learning about the breed. My friend has both the English and Italian and I got an english version a couple weeks ago when Stefano Gandolfi was over to judge at our club show, as well as Peppino Accrogliano. It was a great experience to talk to two of the the people who play a big part with the breed in Italy. Lots of interesting stuff to see through their eyes and to experience it during their judging.

the book i've said earlier is the newest one,and doesn't exist in italian yet ..Never heard of Accrogliano..I don'see Gandolfi in good eye..I don't know why Where are they from exactly?

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Both are from Italy, but as for which region I would have to go and see if I can find it. I was not the person in contact with them for the show as I had a dog entered. There are lots of opinions on who's eye is the best one for the breed and is nothing something that 3 people could agree on. To each their own

 

[Russ Williams]

my favorite CC, my puppy's sire:
Valor Del Cane Club
http://www.mastiff-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10522&d=1346080161

Read more: http://www.mastiff-forum.com/showthread.php/5721-Favorite-Corso-out-there/page3#ixzz3Drorp9Vw

Do you have any other photos of Valor or his brother Vincenzo Del Cane Club or his parents FCI CH Arrow & FCI SGC Athena Del Cane Club?

Thanks in advance.

 

[biggcliff]

Few of faves. I have bloodlines from Ares and Kado. Also, I cant remember the order I loaded them in, but, they are: Ares de casa cesaro(fawn), Torro Custodi Nos(black), Foos Allevamento Del Corso Club, Wildwoods Cirino(blue), Scandifio Kado (black head shot)

 

[biggcliff]

I totally forgot about Hanno delle Valle degli Orsi Ali and Zar del Rosso Malpelo

 

[E1kpo]

View attachment 46498 I totally forgot about Hanno delle Valle degli Orsi AliView attachment 46499 and Zar del Rosso Malpelo

Zar was more boxer than C.C. nothing special just neo X boxer, IMHO..
And btw,the fact that was used boxer blood in selection was sayd even in a SACC convention to "fasten" the process of a fixed breed outlook..
Just the worst thing man has ever made to a dog breed.

 

[biggcliff]

The presence of boxer in many old lines has been well documented. Personally I favor the Yurak and Bayron look a little more than that of Basir.

 

[Mag-Pie]

And btw,the fact that was used boxer blood in selection was sayd even in a SACC convention to "fasten" the process of a fixed breed outlook..
Just the worst thing man has ever made to a dog breed.

x2. In just a few generations a breed can be truly ruined. Time has ruined dog's of all breeds practically. Thanks to all of the "breeders" out there, only focusing on all of these idiotic conformation standards. This is what happens when people take a functional, performance bred dog and decide to breed it to fit whatever look pet owners want. But that's just my opinion, and I am NOT a fan of smushed looking faces.