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Rank Mastiff breeds by temperament

raechiemay

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Ah, could be. Thats really one I've never dealt with lol

I've been around a few of these & the ones I've met were aggressive towards people but were amazing hog dogs. However, I did meet one, Gus, who was a total love bug. Leery of strangers but once he got to know you he was your best friend. I think the reason why he was "gotten rid of" was bc he was not the hog dog he was supposed to be. Smh.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
See, except for in the homeplace a TM is always on some level of alert, and even in the homeplace it doesn't take much. Which isn't to say that they're growling/in stance/etc all the time, but they're on alert for anything. Apollo clearly thinks that having me happy with him is cool, but having me happy with him comes in a far distant 2nd to making sure that he's checked out all possible threats. And he's soft tempered for a TM!..

I'm trying to figure out the best way to describe it....alert is the wrong word. A TM, and from what I know of CAO's they're the same, has a constant awareness that a predator could come out of the bushes at any moment. They KNOW that there is a "wolf" out there stalking their charge. Maybe right this second, maybe not till a couple minutes, but they KNOW that there are threats out there, and that its their job to TAKE CARE OF IT.
 

Geisthexe

Banned
The reason CC are much easier then a Neo is bc they are a hybrid of them. So in this case there is other breeds mixed in. Softened the Neo. No disrespect CC owners or Neo owners :)

AD- Argentina Dogo "correct"



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Geisthexe

Banned
I've been around a few of these & the ones I've met were aggressive towards people but were amazing hog dogs. However, I did meet one, Gus, who was a total love bug. Leery of strangers but once he got to know you he was your best friend. I think the reason why he was "gotten rid of" was bc he was not the hog dog he was supposed to be. Smh.

ADs are not suppose to be human aggressive. Just like all breeds you do have some that are either, no socialized so are more fear aggression, taught to be this way again fear aggression, or are trained in PP but have a trainer that does now work out of the defensive drive which when anyone comes up they don't recognize they go into a defensive motion.
I really like them, have been around, know owners and have trained 2 of them.
I would not own due to the medical issues the breed has


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mklamcc

Well-Known Member
Can't comment on temperment, as I am brand spanking new on Mastiffs. Which is why I am so happy that EM are ranked as the easiest.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
Yeah the EM is defintately the "soft" breed, hard to believe when a "short time" ago they were considered "vicious" like the Fila.
 

Atlas_Mama

Well-Known Member
It would really just depend on what you mean hard. If you mean people aggression then yes the fila would be there. If your talking ease of training, I'd say the fila would be one of the easier ones. If you mean easy to deal with other animals they may be some where in the mid to lower mid area. If you mean easy to own, well the filas desire to please would probably make them very easy to own. This of coarse is assuming all things are equal with the owners and the environment is secure
This was my exact thinking. Original post is a little vague in meaning of "hard"...
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
ADs are not suppose to be human aggressive. Just like all breeds you do have some that are either, no socialized so are more fear aggression, taught to be this way again fear aggression, or are trained in PP but have a trainer that does now work out of the defensive drive which when anyone comes up they don't recognize they go into a defensive motion.
I really like them, have been around, know owners and have trained 2 of them.
I would not own due to the medical issues the breed has


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I believe they were human aggressive due to the type of training they had. My ex boyfriend & his brother had them & they were kept for one purpose & one purpose only. Hog dogs. Lived outside in separate pens & had little to no human interaction or socialization. They were not pets or family dogs in their eyes. Same with their catahoulas.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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I believe they were human aggressive due to the type of training they had. My ex boyfriend & his brother had them & they were kept for one purpose & one purpose only. Hog dogs. Lived outside in separate pens & had little to no human interaction or socialization. They were not pets or family dogs in their eyes. Same with their catahoulas.

Did you get any meat????
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
Did you get any meat????

No, that's one thing I have not tried. I think they basically removed them within city limits, we have had issues around here with them messing up golf courses & coming into neighborhoods. I don't know what they did with them after they caught them.
 

Geisthexe

Banned
I believe they were human aggressive due to the type of training they had. My ex boyfriend & his brother had them & they were kept for one purpose & one purpose only. Hog dogs. Lived outside in separate pens & had little to no human interaction or socialization. They were not pets or family dogs in their eyes. Same with their catahoulas.

I would have to completely agree with you. Catahoulas nice dogs, great working breed.



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Duetsche_Doggen

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No, that's one thing I have not tried. I think they basically removed them within city limits, we have had issues around here with them messing up golf courses & coming into neighborhoods. I don't know what they did with them after they caught them.

I'm now sure how I would react to hogs tearing up my property.....but I would probably invest in some good dogs as a deterrent, if it does anything at all.

:( I'd be after that free meat.
 

raechiemay

Well-Known Member
Hogs are nasty, mean creatures. It's no wonder they're coming into neighborhoods & golf courses because we're taking over their land & they're breeding like rabbits. It's just like the deer I've been seeing in the medians off the highways around here. They're losing their cover & are venturing out into populated areas looking for food & water. Pretty sad actually.

Ahh I'm getting off topic. Sorry guys.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

Well-Known Member
Hogs are nasty, mean creatures. It's no wonder they're coming into neighborhoods & golf courses because we're taking over their land & they're breeding like rabbits. It's just like the deer I've been seeing in the medians off the highways around here. They're losing their cover & are venturing out into populated areas looking for food & water. Pretty sad actually.

Ahh I'm getting off topic. Sorry guys.

I agree and I believe its not their fault....

Yeap sorry BOT
 

YouKnowMeNot

Active Member
CAO- caucasian asian ovcharka
CAO is Central Asian Ovcharka. It's a different dog from the caucasian sheperd. Both are working dogs. They can be socialized but they will never back out of fight. So they need to be supervised at all times. Although they are not really mastiffs so I'm not sure they have a place in the list. The kangals have some mastiff blood in them. If we include the Kangals they will definitely give the Fila a run for its money. The Dogo Argentino are nasty dogs. I would rank them higher than the rotts for sure. Same for the presa. But the Tosa... I don't know much about them, except that they are considered the best fighting dog in Japan. But the way they fight is what matters. In Japan they don't encourage killing, so the Tosas are not game bred like the APBT or dogos. To me the last 2 are far more dangerous. Much more harder to "call off".
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Thats what I ment, and what I get for trying to do it in a hurry from my Ipad at work when my boss is headed in my direction. Sorry! I do know the difference.
 

CaneCorso

Well-Known Member
EM
BULL
GP
LEON
GD
DDB
CC
AD
ROTT
ABD
TOSA
PRESA
NEO
CAO
FILA




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I'm new to mastiffs, so I can't rank their temperament myself. But IMO it's not that simple. It would come down to individual breeders and even more so individual dogs. But my question Deb is why do you have NEO listed below Presa Canario? Now I know you breed and work Presa Canario and I've never met one and only just recently met a couple Neos, but overall as a breed Neapolitan mastiff compaired to Presa canario, I would guess there are way more hard tempered working Presa Canario than Neapolitan Mastiff. But ovrall I think everyone can agree that the hardest temp goes to the Fila Brasileiro or the Caucasian Ovcharka. Softest being EM/BM.
 
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chuckorlando

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Hogs are nasty, mean creatures. It's no wonder they're coming into neighborhoods & golf courses because we're taking over their land & they're breeding like rabbits. It's just like the deer I've been seeing in the medians off the highways around here. They're losing their cover & are venturing out into populated areas looking for food & water. Pretty sad actually.

Ahh I'm getting off topic. Sorry guys.

Hogs should'nt be here in the first place. They are from asia which is exactly why you dont need a license or season to kill them. They are an extremely invasive species with no natural check to keep them balanced. Kill em all.

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Thats likely cause you've met the newer version of the neo. It dont matter who you go to for a fila. If it's a real fila, it dont like people. Neo's once were very fierce guard dogs. Now there a dark EM in alot of cases