Rank Mastiff breeds by temperament

[chuckorlando]

Thats likely cause you've met the newer version of the neo. It dont matter who you go to for a fila. If it's a real fila, it dont like people. Neo's once were very fierce guard dogs. Now there a dark EM in alot of cases

 

[m0rg4n]

Out of curiosity, do we not talk about Newfoundlands because they have their own following and communities? They are molossers. . .

 

[OwlSong]

AD- Argentina Dogo "correct"

I've always heard those referred to as Dogo Argentino, and not the other way around as you put it.

 

[CaneCorso]

Thats likely cause you've met the newer version of the neo. It dont matter who you go to for a fila. If it's a real fila, it dont like people. Neo's once were very fierce guard dogs. Now there a dark EM in alot of cases

Were you talking to me? I was under the assumption we were talking about current modern day dogs. Not dogs from "yesteryear", or "way back when" .

 

[masteneo]

See and this goes to everything i have been seeing in Chloe( half neo half bull) . Her personality is nothing like any of the bulls i have delt with. she is teritorial , possesive of her pack and about turns into satan if she knows someone is unwelcome. All my previous pits have nothing on her. They were easily trained. she on the the other hand took alot more work , and had an oppinion about everything, Sorry about spelling like hell.

 

[chuckorlando]

Were you talking to me? I was under the assumption we were talking about current modern day dogs. Not dogs from "yesteryear", or "way back when" .

The old neo aint gone. And untill the standard changes a sissy neo aint right to begin with. There are plenty of sissy filas. Even thoughs that claim they breed for softer temp. That dont make it a proper fila. A neo that dont guard is a mutt in a fat mans suit

 

[ruthcatrin]

Out of curiosity, do we not talk about Newfoundlands because they have their own following and communities? They are molossers. . .

I think they just got forgotten in the list. I'd have not included a Pyr or Leonberger if I'd done the list myself cause I'd just have not thought to include them.


It DOES make a HUGE difference between individual dogs, but there are some truths across the breeds, at least untill someone decides to "mellow them out"

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

The old neo aint gone. And untill the standard changes a sissy neo aint right to begin with. There are plenty of sissy filas. Even thoughs that claim they breed for softer temp. That dont make it a proper fila. A neo that dont guard is a mutt in a fat mans suit

I agree like the CC some "old types" Neos are still being used just takes some digging. For example there are hunters in Australia that still use Great Danes for boarhunting and I don't mean mixes. That in itself I find incredible and hope that the breed is "not gone."

 

[YouKnowMeNot]

There are a lot of mastiff breeds so it's hard to make a complete list. We also missed Korean mastiffs (very neo-like), Boerboels, St. Bernard and Bully Kuttas which seem pretty hard dogs as well. I doubt there is a person in the world with enough experience to talk about each breed.

 

[masteneo]

hey what about that one dang dog thats three letters and means something like a sebian protection dog ? AWWWW for the life of me i cant remember the dog. and i cant search it.

 

[dpenning]

Really people agression and what training is required to have a well socialized well behaved dog.

It would really just depend on what you mean hard. If you mean people aggression then yes the fila would be there. If your talking ease of training, I'd say the fila would be one of the easier ones. If you mean easy to deal with other animals they may be some where in the mid to lower mid area. If you mean easy to own, well the filas desire to please would probably make them very easy to own. This of coarse is assuming all things are equal with the owners and the environment is secure

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Hogs are nasty, mean creatures. It's no wonder they're coming into neighborhoods & golf courses because we're taking over their land & they're breeding like rabbits. It's just like the deer I've been seeing in the medians off the highways around here. They're losing their cover & are venturing out into populated areas looking for food & water. Pretty sad actually.

Ahh I'm getting off topic. Sorry guys.

No worries! In fact I just got this in an e-mail today
Collin County is again this year participating in the Texas Department of Agriculture “Hog Out†grant program. We need your help to report our numbers to the grant application. A county receives points based upon the following system; ½ point for each feral hog reported trapped or killed in the county and 1 point for every attendee at feral hog educational programs. We currently have presented a feral hog topic at our annual CEU program on November 9[SUP]th[/SUP] in which we had 68 attendees. We have another program planned for December in which we will be sending out a flyer on in the next few days. In the mean time, we need your help in reporting the number of feral hogs you have killed or trapped between the time period of October 1, 2012 and December 31, 2012. Below is the link to an online survey we have created for you to report these numbers as well as other information that will help us determine where some of the concentrated populations of feral hogs are in the county. Please complete this survey if you have killed or trapped feral hogs in Collin County during the time frame mentioned. Please be truthful with your reporting as this survey acts as an affidavit as to the numbers. Just click on the below link to go straight to the survey or you can go to our Collin County Extension website at http://collinagrilife.com/

 

[dpenning]

Hogs are nasty, mean creatures. It's no wonder they're coming into neighborhoods & golf courses because we're taking over their land & they're breeding like rabbits. It's just like the deer I've been seeing in the medians off the highways around here. They're losing their cover & are venturing out into populated areas looking for food & water. Pretty sad actually.

Ahh I'm getting off topic. Sorry guys.

No worries! In fact I just got this in an e-mail today
Collin County is again this year participating in the Texas Department of Agriculture “Hog Out†grant program. We need your help to report our numbers to the grant application. A county receives points based upon the following system; ½ point for each feral hog reported trapped or killed in the county and 1 point for every attendee at feral hog educational programs. We currently have presented a feral hog topic at our annual CEU program on November 9[SUP]th[/SUP] in which we had 68 attendees. We have another program planned for December in which we will be sending out a flyer on in the next few days. In the mean time, we need your help in reporting the number of feral hogs you have killed or trapped between the time period of October 1, 2012 and December 31, 2012. Below is the link to an online survey we have created for you to report these numbers as well as other information that will help us determine where some of the concentrated populations of feral hogs are in the county. Please complete this survey if you have killed or trapped feral hogs in Collin County during the time frame mentioned. Please be truthful with your reporting as this survey acts as an affidavit as to the numbers. Just click on the below link to go straight to the survey or you can go to our Collin County Extension website at http://collinagrilife.com/

 

[chuckorlando]

Whats that have to do with the price of tea in china? If you want to know hard dogs and a neo has inherent distrust of humans, all the socializing in the world should not make it an over friendly or trusting bread. One that might lay on the floor and watch you yes. A tail wagging rub my butt kinda dog no. And you can take a fila to petsmart everyday for 10yrs and it should'nt like strangers.

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In fact ome would argue that fila should want to bite you really really hard. I dont care if you get the dog a phd in play nice

 

[chuckorlando]

In fact ome would argue that fila should want to bite you really really hard. I dont care if you get the dog a phd in play nice

 

[dpenning]

I did not know that! Then I would put Newfies before EM's for sure! I've had two Newfies and they had the personality of Whinnie the Pooh until they decided they didn't like you or felt you were being threatening. Way easier than my mastiff. In fact if I could still brush them I would have another one instead of a mastiff, I just can't brush them any more since I had shoulder surgery.

Out of curiosity, do we not talk about Newfoundlands because they have their own following and communities? They are molossers. . .

 

[ruthcatrin]

hey what about that one dang dog thats three letters and means something like a sebian protection dog ? AWWWW for the life of me i cant remember the dog. and i cant search it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pmanderson/Serbian_DD ?

 

[masteneo]

thats the one! thanks ruthcatrin. So should this breed be included

 

[CaneCorso]

Chuck, I think you took what I said out of context. All I did was question why in this day and age a Neapoitan Mastiff would be considered to have a harder temperament than a Presa Canario. How many videos of Neos are there on Youtube doing PP? Compaired to how many Presa you see doing PP? As far as the Fila, I agree that a true Fila should dislike / hate strangers and should have the hardest temp overall. Never had any question about that. But as far as putting the other breeds in order Rotti, Cane Corso, Tosa, etc. I think there is too much diversity in these breeds to put one over the other. Like I said it all depends on what the breeder strives for , the lines they use, as well as the individual dogs in the litter. You could have a lot of diversity in temp in the same litter ( some will have harder temps while some will be soft and more submissive). I hope that makes sense? P.S Chuck where do you find thes Neapolitan Mastiff with such distrust for strangers ? Lines? Breeders?

 

[ruthcatrin]

thats the one! thanks ruthcatrin. So should this breed be included

They are a mastiff type, but unless you know more about them than that article, or someone else does, it would be hard to accurately rank them.

 

[chuckorlando]

I agree with everything you said. I'm not saying MOST neos aint soft. I'm just saying that aint right. A neo should not trust a stranger at all. If you read what their temp SHOULD be. A neo should be a hard dog. If the lines watered down, in my opinion somethings wrong. I use the fila as an example because a watered down fila is simply not allowed. Are they out there, sure. But they are garbage dogs. I put very little on the look of the dog. I dont care if the fila is split lipped, long eared, or any of that so long a the avg joe could look at it and say it looks like a fila. But temp is diffrent. And a neo temp should not be friendly period. It dont have to be aggressive but should not be friendly at least till it's comfortable with you. Now if it's excepted in the neo comunity that their temp doe not need to fit well then they need to change that. I aint calling neos this, their standard does. As far as where to find one, hell your guess is as good as mine. I love the neo in theory. But I feel most are watered down mutts now. If your lucky enough to find a tighter looking one, it wont have the temp. If you find the temp, it will 150lb worth a floppy. I'd buy alot of dogs before a neo even though I like the neo more than most mastiffs.


My last comment was'nt towards you though. Depenning quoted me talking bout the fila and mentioned what kinda training should I have done or what have you. Aint no training a fila to like you

Chuck, I think you took what I said out of context. All I did was question why in this day and age a Neapoitan Mastiff would be considered to have a harder temperament than a Presa Canario. How many videos of Neos are there on Youtube doing PP? Compaired to how many Presa you see doing PP? As far as the Fila, I agree that a true Fila should dislike / hate strangers and should have the hardest temp overall. Never had any question about that. But as far as putting the other breeds in order Rotti, Cane Corso, Tosa, etc. I think there is too much diversity in these breeds to put one over the other. Like I said it all depends on what the breeder strives for , the lines they use, as well as the individual dogs in the litter. You could have a lot of diversity in temp in the same litter ( some will have harder temps while some will be soft and more submissive). I hope that makes sense? P.S Chuck where do you find thes Neapolitan Mastiff with such distrust for strangers ? Lines? Breeders?