Fila Brasileiro

[Ghostsword]

Great video indeed, and further makes the case for Filas use on the police force.

If the dogs are fit, controllable, and aggressive then there is a use for it.


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[Ghostsword]

What do you think of this dog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSD2KbRtDE&feature=player_embedded#!

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[video=youtube_share;mIR5Ljd7gqM]http://youtu.be/mIR5Ljd7gqM[/video]

 

[Ghostsword]

[video=youtube_share;mIR5Ljd7gqM]http://youtu.be/mIR5Ljd7gqM[/video]

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and [video=youtube_share;nUAi9NYB_4I]http://youtu.be/nUAi9NYB_4I[/video]

 

[Ghostsword]

and [video=youtube_share;nUAi9NYB_4I]http://youtu.be/nUAi9NYB_4I[/video]

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Sorry about the double posts.

 

[Ghostsword]

Sorry about the double posts.

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and a last one:
[video=youtube_share;vCnh-rHq1mM]http://youtu.be/vCnh-rHq1mM[/video]

 

[Ghostsword]

and a last one:
[video=youtube_share;vCnh-rHq1mM]http://youtu.be/vCnh-rHq1mM[/video]

 

[chuckorlando]

I'm not at all impressed with that last one. It's just a game to that one. Soon as the sleave drops the dogs stay's on the sleave and all aggression stops. The dog also backs up when the guy comes up sleavless.

I've seen video of some very well trained fila. But attacking a sleave is what they do. Thats not very special.

[video=youtube;I5H8wGhTKUU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5H8wGhTKUU[/video]

better reaction to me [video=youtube;XoTk7pAZMrA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoTk7pAZMrA[/video]

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filas after a bore [video=youtube;DDQrTZ5-uTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDQrTZ5-uTU[/video]

Little something I could see Kona doing [video=youtube;_aR75Px9PgE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aR75Px9PgE[/video]

2012 cafib show. Note the first is not being held and the judges are very close [video=youtube;UCj16dnnWOA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCj16dnnWOA[/video]

 

[chuckorlando]

filas after a bore [video=youtube;DDQrTZ5-uTU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDQrTZ5-uTU[/video]

Little something I could see Kona doing [video=youtube;_aR75Px9PgE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aR75Px9PgE[/video]

2012 cafib show. Note the first is not being held and the judges are very close [video=youtube;UCj16dnnWOA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCj16dnnWOA[/video]

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Then one of the best is one of a nice little black Fila. Very very well trained [video=youtube;Jn27nmw_Pv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn27nmw_Pv0[/video]

A little high energy fast movements [video=youtube;pMf2E3diGes]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMf2E3diGes[/video]

True working Fila's doing their job's [video=youtube;KWPEWJKHAOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWPEWJKHAOU[/video]

 

[chuckorlando]

Then one of the best is one of a nice little black Fila. Very very well trained [video=youtube;Jn27nmw_Pv0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn27nmw_Pv0[/video]

A little high energy fast movements [video=youtube;pMf2E3diGes]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMf2E3diGes[/video]

True working Fila's doing their job's [video=youtube;KWPEWJKHAOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWPEWJKHAOU[/video]

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Aside from some motion sickness with the last video with the horses these are some very nice videos.

Truly impressed with the Fila breed. Dang it you guys now I want one.

 

[Tiger12490]

Hey Guys/Gals,

This is for those that said that CAFIB type filas could not be trained to do structured Protection(Ireally dont know where the hell you guys got that from). The guy who owns the fila is a Brazilian cop or MP or something, the Fila is very young and not yet an adult (def less than 2 years old and probably 1 or less). the guy trains GSDs, mals, and now filas. take a look... [video=youtube;0xtXCUPvyk8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xtXCUPvyk8&feature=share[/video]

I'm actually not impressed at all in America his police dogs would be garbage.....the fila went after the camera man and yes its a fila that's what they do but that's not what police dogs do......he didn't show anything that you didn't in you're temp test let's be honest....if I was in a stack a lead man going into a building I'd be thinking more about getting bit by the anchors dog then getting shot and that is a problem.....what about letting the dog go in a house and it finds a child.....oroff lead tracking in someones yard and they stand out side to watch like a cops episode would you be confident that that dog wouldn't go after the nosy neighbors? Not a good example IMO his Mal wasn't all that either

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[chuckorlando]

I tend to agree. Theres so much more to a fila than the bite bite bite. There are 10.1 temp test vids to any other and all they show is the mean side. A well trained dog to me would have released it's hold on comand. I dont know, I just like to see the whole dog not just the mean dog. Heres another good vid. You cant do this with just any large breed I would think. [video=youtube;vFpiZUnrP1k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFpiZUnrP1k[/video]

I'm actually not impressed at all in America his police dogs would be garbage.....the fila went after the camera man and yes its a fila that's what they do but that's not what police dogs do......he didn't show anything that you didn't in you're temp test let's be honest....if I was in a stack a lead man going into a building I'd be thinking more about getting bit by the anchors dog then getting shot and that is a problem.....what about letting the dog go in a house and it finds a child.....oroff lead tracking in someones yard and they stand out side to watch like a cops episode would you be confident that that dog wouldn't go after the nosy neighbors? Not a good example IMO his Mal wasn't all that either

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[dogman#1]

Hey Chuck, some good videos in there...what makes you think that was a CAFIB show? A CAFIB show would NEVER allow the dog to be off leash as it is not part of the evaluation process and it could put others at risk...I am willing to bet that that is an FCI type show and not a CAFIB show but whatever that is it is unlike any CAFIB show I have ever heard of. The videos that should a lil temp testing all the dogs did good even the one with RAihna do itanhandu...the threat left and she went back to the owner. the first video i wouldve like some more pressure put on the dog but he did just fine as well. BTW what "work" were those filas doing with the horses?

Tiger, you must be confused... I never said that those are actual police dogs...I said that the guy is either a cop or an MP, those are his personal dogs or should I say puppies...not adults but pups.

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The reason for the multitude of temp tests availbale is because people want to show the untrained, instinctual side of the dog. once you have it trained for structured bite work then you mask its original state...I dont want to see that on a dog that I may want to use later on i want to see him/her in its original state. Now once a temp test has been done then by all means train away.

 

[dogman#1]

The reason for the multitude of temp tests availbale is because people want to show the untrained, instinctual side of the dog. once you have it trained for structured bite work then you mask its original state...I dont want to see that on a dog that I may want to use later on i want to see him/her in its original state. Now once a temp test has been done then by all means train away.

 

[chuckorlando]

I thought it was a cafib show cause the movie is titled cafib show 2012. I did'nt watch the horse vid all the way to the end cause it sucked. But the begining seemed to me they were coraling the horses in between the 2 poles. But at the end I see they were not doing so.

Hey Chuck, some good videos in there...what makes you think that was a CAFIB show? A CAFIB show would NEVER allow the dog to be off leash as it is not part of the evaluation process and it could put others at risk...I am willing to bet that that is an FCI type show and not a CAFIB show but whatever that is it is unlike any CAFIB show I have ever heard of. The videos that should a lil temp testing all the dogs did good even the one with RAihna do itanhandu...the threat left and she went back to the owner. the first video i wouldve like some more pressure put on the dog but he did just fine as well. BTW what "work" were those filas doing with the horses?

Tiger, you must be confused... I never said that those are actual police dogs...I said that the guy is either a cop or an MP, those are his personal dogs or should I say puppies...not adults but pups.

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The reason for the multitude of temp tests availbale is because people want to show the untrained, instinctual side of the dog. once you have it trained for structured bite work then you mask its original state...I dont want to see that on a dog that I may want to use later on i want to see him/her in its original state. Now once a temp test has been done then by all means train away.

 

[dogman#1]

can you PM me that link...I have never seen that judge either...

LOL, never mind...it doesnt say CAFIB!

 

[chuckorlando]

HAHAHAHAHA. My bad. It's CACIB. HAHAHAHAHA. Sneaky suckers. Man sorry about that. I thought it very odd the lady dropped the leash.

 

[Tiger12490]

Well there also not doing structured protection......maybe your a tad confused about what structured PP is? because that just looked exactly like what every cafib breeder does to show temp.....nothing more and cafib fila aren't capable of structured PP atleast I've yet to see them be able to listen and be discriminative enough to do so when in code black, plus the so called cop its trash if he's pushing a mastiff that young into defense....piss poor example

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[Ghostsword]

I liked rainha do itanhandu video, and the way she behaved herself. threat left and she went back to handler, not chase. Yes, she did like the sleeve, but her posture said it all. Went down preparing to jump. I liked that.

I would have her drag the decoy down, not jump at him, but like her attitude.

The MP guy, seen better, but have seen also much worse. As a former MP when the dog is off leash all bets are off. This is not schutzhund. no offense, but schutzhund is not the same as military protection and shows. Obedience and control is good and needed, but also ability to handle a situation without an handler.

The videos I posted are from a Fila kennel in Hungary. .


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[Tiger12490]

My buddy is in Afghanistan right now attached to his beautiful dog we do our handlers course in quantico VA there is a huge difference in sport dogs and ones meant to actually get shot at......were infantry though... I wouldn't have that guy train either he just isn't good lol all bets should not be off when you're dog is off lead you should still be able to maintain control if you can't your dog should not be off leash......period..and besides bomb detection they are trained to do most task off leash...I personally would not choose a fila to do PP nor police work its a liability....

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