Duetsche_Doggen
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So of again if Corso were being mixed with "old boxer" would there be an "issue"?
One would think, but you can see it often in many CC.retracted nose and pinched nostrils? who the hell would want that in ANY breed. I dont need to know all about a specific breed to understand that certain characteristics are detrimental to function and capability, it is basic knowledge of form and function
I would have an issue yes. Why mix them with anything? A corso should be a corso. The breed has been created and recognized. It is no longer a type. It should not be bastardized any more then it currently has been. Back in the day in WW2 I am sure it happened in the country side, now it is NOT necessary or correct. If a dog is not correct in type it should NOT be bred period. I am tired of the "have to start somewhere" and the well if I use the right male I can correct the head and structure..." It is BS. Start with the best example of the breed and make it better!!So of again if Corso were being mixed with "old boxer" would there be an "issue"?
Cody like I tell you and Dogman both, I don't know the breed. I have my own "politics." I don't need it here.....I simply asked the question because I curious about the opinions of those actually involved in the breed.
Using my breed as an example......Being technical the US dane is more "correct" based on the historic photos, compared to the Euro counter part as far as type. None had the excess flews, dewlaps, haws, etc characteristics of today's EM and more recently Neos. Yet the Euros (IMO) are more "correct" in body type as far as their structure. Great Danes are tall dogs but they are not giraffes. So IMO neither dogs are correct........
As times change, we change, our dogs, homes, and so forth. I think we tend to forget that many of these breeds were based off a person(s) opinion of THEIR ideal dog. So what about the guy next farm over? Are his dogs less of said breed since he failed to write the blueprints? There could have been Corsi dogs with the “boxer” feature…I don’t know…I do know what I like. Personally I’m not a fan of the “boxerilli” type but like the US danes, I found the type/lines that suits me. Why stress out over someone else line?
Like I stated before, there are or at least should be trademark traits of what makes that breed. Many people are confused by Thor’s and Stone’s appearance, yet even people who knew next the nothing about dogs in general recognized them as….well….Great Danes. J
So overall we have group A and B telling the each other is wrong. Leaving group C ( puppy buyers) in the cross fires of all this. That is a tragedy in itself, imo……CL, Kijiji anyone???
That was not really directed at you, the rant part of it lol I know that the history of the breed is convoluted. I have no doubts that when the German soldier with his Boxer War Dog wandering through the Italian Country side in WW2 came across a bitch in season a tie happened. That is not what I am saying or my problem, my trouble is the continuation of this now. If one wants a small boned Corso with Boxer features I have a better idea, get a boxer. If one wants a Huge beast that can barely move with excessive wrinkles get a Neo. There are no breed police. Regardless of personal feelings people will do what they do, breed what they breed. That doesn't mean everyone has to sit silently by and not say what they think in regards to this. Apathy is a problem in the breed, all breeds...Cody like I tell you and Dogman both, I don't know the breed. I have my own "politics." I don't need it here.....I simply asked the question because I curious about the opinions of those actually involved in the breed.
Using my breed as an example......Being technical the US dane is more "correct" based on the historic photos, compared to the Euro counter part as far as type. None had the excess flews, dewlaps, haws, etc characteristics of today's EM and more recently Neos. Yet the Euros (IMO) are more "correct" in body type as far as their structure. Great Danes are tall dogs but they are not giraffes. So IMO neither dogs are correct........
As times change, we change, our dogs, homes, and so forth. I think we tend to forget that many of these breeds were based off a person(s) opinion of THEIR ideal dog. So what about the guy next farm over? Are his dogs less of said breed since he failed to write the blueprints? There could have been Corsi dogs with the “boxer” feature…I don’t know…I do know what I like. Personally I’m not a fan of the “boxerilli” type but like the US danes, I found the type/lines that suits me. Why stress out over someone else line?
Like I stated before, there are or at least should be trademark traits of what makes that breed. Many people are confused by Thor’s and Stone’s appearance, yet even people who knew next the nothing about dogs in general recognized them as….well….Great Danes. J
So overall we have group A and B telling the each other is wrong. Leaving group C ( puppy buyers) in the cross fires of all this. That is a tragedy in itself, imo……CL, Kijiji anyone???
That was not really directed at you, the rant part of it lol I know that the history of the breed is convoluted. I have no doubts that when the German soldier with his Boxer War Dog wandering through the Italian Country side in WW2 came across a bitch in season a tie happened. That is not what I am saying or my problem, my trouble is the continuation of this now. If one wants a small boned Corso with Boxer features I have a better idea, get a boxer. If one wants a Huge beast that can barely move with excessive wrinkles get a Neo. There are no breed police. Regardless of personal feelings people will do what they do, breed what they breed. That doesn't mean everyone has to sit silently by and not say what they think in regards to this. Apathy is a problem in the breed, all breeds...
In Danes I am the same lol. I need to get a picture of my friends European Dane, most ask if he is a Mastiff cross He is a lovely boy though and my preference. Everyone has a preference, I understand that. But the breed needs some consistency, the mantra; "If it doesn't look like a Corso then it isn't a Corso.I harbor no ill feelings Cody, your passionate about your dogs like I am with mine. We know how doggy politics can go.
:lol: I'll be damned if that's not the same thing say in my breed world. I just chose neither, I chose what I like........my overdone, sloppy, large eared, mast-iffy, blue bloodhounds.
In Danes I am the same lol. I need to get a picture of my friends European Dane, most ask if he is a Mastiff cross He is a lovely boy though and my preference. Everyone has a preference, I understand that. But the breed needs some consistency, the mantra; "If it doesn't look like a Corso then it isn't a Corso.
LOL, I know right, not a Boxer person but damn they looked nice back then. I'm partial to the first and third one myself.