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stubborn little bugger!

Zeus2012

Member
so i have an 14 week old ddb, hes my little baby, when he gets on my bed he lays in my part, he doesnt move! when i pick him up to move him he growls! i get really angry and shout no, he is not aggressive at all, he plays with my 11month old and licks her ears and nose, hes never been nasty, just a stubborn little bugger, does anybody have any advice? be appreciated alot :) thanks
 

mklamcc

Well-Known Member
Maybe you should keep him off the bed for a while. Sounds like he is getting a bit too possessive.
 

neomama

Well-Known Member
I agree with keeping him off the bed growling leeds to bitting, even though he may not seem
agressive now, he is telling you this is my area, when you need to show him it is not.
 

STEVSH

Well-Known Member
Don't yell at him for growling either. That will teach him to not growl next time and go right to biting. It also shows lack of control when you yell at him. Keep your voice low and firm. :) And yep, no bed what so ever. He needs to realize that he can only go up there when YOU allow it. My pup was on the ground for the first six months of her life, no exceptions. It's hard to not give in to the cute face, but you have to.
 

DennasMom

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At his age, make sure he doesn't get on the bed until you invite him up (I would have thought he'd be too small to jump that far, anyway). And, he should ALWAYS get off when you ask him to. If he doesn't... he doesn't get to come back up there. It's about respecting your space.

Also - don't get angry. He's a puppy. He's going to push your limits until you say "no more". But if you get angry and frustrated, he won't listen to you. Stay calm and patient - and persistent. If you wait him out and after 2 hours he gets off the bed - you've still WON! And next time it won't take so long. Be sure to praise him when he does what you want, too!
 

musicdeb

Well-Known Member
DDB's are extremely stubborn. Welcome to my world... I agree, do not let him on the bed because to him, he's the top dog and that's his bed. Keep him off the bed for a while.

Yelling at a DDB causes them to shut down. They want to please you, yelling in some many words hurts their feelings.

Keep us posted on his progress with the bed situation. He is a puppy, so he has a lot to learn. Have you started OB training at home with him?
 

Zeus2012

Member
Hello guys, thanks, hes got a huge kennel in the garden just that he barks in the middle of the night and i bring him inside the house, he runs upstairs and my bed is very low to the ground so he jumps onto the bed, i cant stop him doing this not when im asleep anyway but i will do my best and keep you involed in the progress :) yes iv heard they are stubborn little fellas! also been let down on my puppy ddb coming on 7th december :( so need to find a new friend for zeus :)....thanks guys!!!!
 

jenny adams

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hi we have got a baby ddb 10 weeks she is stubborn but i agree no bed we have star gate on the bottom star she is not allowed up stars, not on the couch unless i ask her up well pick her up its to high for her but has to get down when i say she is not allowed on with the kids just me as a treat have had no growling prob but crying at bed time but just have to be strong and not give in
 

Zeus2012

Member
Hes a right little stubborn bugger, its really hard to keep him off bed because its low to the floor and he jumps up :S trying our best though, apart from that hes a brill dog! love the little fella to bits! :)
 

bluebutterfly

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I have a VERY dominant boxer bitch... and I can tell you I had to take her through MANY training courses, classes and hire a personal trainer..... and one of the biggest mistakes i was makeing with her was letting her sleep on my bed. she would not even let me sit on the bed when she was on it. she would growl and lunge. even as a 12 week old puppy! she bit me in the face aggressively... NOT in play, on the way home from the breeder... I almost took her back but fact is... I spacifically looked for a german import boxer... I chose the dominant female... I did not realize this dog would be like a posessed puppy at least 90% of the time...LOL. The breeder told me right away to get her into training... she is a WORKING dog from strong working lines, and she needed a job. I needed to get a handle on her before it got crazy... so I did. and i had to learn how to be the boss... now... after all that work... I have a dog that respects me...but not many other people..lol... training made 100% difference in her! worth EVERY penny...
words from my trainer that WORKED for me....dont EVER EVER EVER let a dominant dog sleep on a human bed... treat it like the throan of the king... he who lays here, rules night and day here.
stopping her from sleeping on the bed, made a change almost right away in her...
and I can say...that even today at 9 years old... if someone slips up...calls her up on there bed to give her a scratch... she will get aditude..EVERY single time...
It is an unwritten but well known rule in my house that residents and guests abide by.. PANZER does not go on ANY bed in this house for ANY reason. LOL
breaking of that rule will result in Panzer suspension for one week for residents... That means whoever breaks the rule gets no Panzer time for a week... and that is a big one for my kids..lol

I dont know if thats your problem... probably not... if your pup isnt biting or snapping at you..lol consider yourself lucky..
 

Zeus2012

Member
I have a VERY dominant boxer bitch... and I can tell you I had to take her through MANY training courses, classes and hire a personal trainer..... and one of the biggest mistakes i was makeing with her was letting her sleep on my bed. she would not even let me sit on the bed when she was on it. she would growl and lunge. even as a 12 week old puppy! she bit me in the face aggressively... NOT in play, on the way home from the breeder... I almost took her back but fact is... I spacifically looked for a german import boxer... I chose the dominant female... I did not realize this dog would be like a posessed puppy at least 90% of the time...LOL. The breeder told me right away to get her into training... she is a WORKING dog from strong working lines, and she needed a job. I needed to get a handle on her before it got crazy... so I did. and i had to learn how to be the boss... now... after all that work... I have a dog that respects me...but not many other people..lol... training made 100% difference in her! worth EVERY penny...
words from my trainer that WORKED for me....dont EVER EVER EVER let a dominant dog sleep on a human bed... treat it like the throan of the king... he who lays here, rules night and day here.
stopping her from sleeping on the bed, made a change almost right away in her...
and I can say...that even today at 9 years old... if someone slips up...calls her up on there bed to give her a scratch... she will get aditude..EVERY single time...
It is an unwritten but well known rule in my house that residents and guests abide by.. PANZER does not go on ANY bed in this house for ANY reason. LOL
breaking of that rule will result in Panzer suspension for one week for residents... That means whoever breaks the rule gets no Panzer time for a week... and that is a big one for my kids..lol

I dont know if thats your problem... probably not... if your pup isnt biting or snapping at you..lol consider yourself lucky..


Yep thats my problem, thankyou! and wow! your ddb is beautiful! :)
 

bluebutterfly

Well-Known Member
Thanks. I know. He is so cute. I haven't got him yet. He is on his way as of 3 pm this afternoon. Should arrive tomorrow or Monday. I'm so excited. Yet nervous at the same time. Lol. It's going to be a lot of work around here for the next while. Here is hoping the two turds get along.
 

jersey girl

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Hes a right little stubborn bugger, its really hard to keep him off bed because its low to the floor and he jumps up :S trying our best though, apart from that hes a brill dog! love the little fella to bits! :)

Have you thought about putting a crate in your room and having him sleep there?
 

TN Dogues

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Having DDBs, I agree with the stubborn streak. They can be willful buggers! But you must be too!

Calm, confident, DOMINANT alpha. What does that mean?

It means to practice certain things everyday in addition to training:
You sleep on the bed, the dog sleeps next to or below you.
You walk through doorways first.
You eat first.
Dog must sit calmly before food is placed on the floor.
Play fetch instead of tug.

There are many more. But in order to be alpha to your pack, you must act like one. Think calm but firm 'no' for misbehavior. And plenty of praise when he acts submissive or does what you want. Anger does not work with these dogues.

I would find a good trainer now before Zeus gets too big to handle.

I would also wait on the playmate...until you have Zeus's issues worked out. Otherwise, you could end up having two pups with issues. Pups can influence each other's behavior. A dominant pup can terrorize a more submissive pup...

We have a litter of six DDBs (all pre-sold) and at four weeks they are already establishing dominance over each other. I step in when necessary with a single finger to the side of the neck and a "SSST!" If the pup being dominant continues, I gently roll him over and hold him until he relaxes. No violence, no anger, no frustration. Just a simple correction that mommy dog would give.

Good luck with Zeus, he is a cute boy.