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Has anyone received a quote from ObamaCare yet?

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
Another story from my state... after out insurance plan was dropped last week we've been searching for options also, just like the lady in the video.

1091 days until the lying clown is out of office.

[video=youtube;8-vbQt9DsBw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vbQt9DsBw[/video]
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
That some bad Juju! You can always find a 2nd job or find a job that provides insurance. Beside it would only be for the next 1091 days. Sometimes you just can't control the environment around you.
 

Mamacast

Well-Known Member
Just heard how some people are already scamming the system. They submit their 2 smallest pay checks and then receive subsidies.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
So families that had insurance and were just fine, now need to get *another* job to support people who are benefited by this law/tax? That seem logical.. lol?

If we can help to educate voters who vote clowns like this in office the "environment" of dictation will be no more - 1090.

That some bad Juju! You can always find a 2nd job or find a job that provides insurance. Beside it would only be for the next 1091 days. Sometimes you just can't control the environment around you.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
We have families now that are on the 2nd & 3rd generation of receiving a check every month without working.

Some how there has to be incentive to work, tie educational programs to these assistance program or something..

Just heard how some people are already scamming the system. They submit their 2 smallest pay checks and then receive subsidies.
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
Found that second job yet? Even better, have you found a job that offers good benefits? Life can be down right shitty sometimes. There is hope though. Just follow the advise in the entitlement thread. You don't like it change it. Get more education, start your own business, change jobs....easy enough. You can do it.

Actually, I do feel for ya! I lived through it with Bushie. Hell, even longer than you will have to endure. I was stuck with him as governor before that.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
Dictation & Entitlement are different things..

I will be just fine, however I would like to see my family and their children be able to live without being indebted for their entire lives.

'Its important we are honest and upfront" direct quote from our President.. again I ask what does Bush have to do with this.. he wasn't the dictator that was hell bent on pasting health care legislation, even if no one wanted it nor it made any sense to be executed as planned.

Found that second job yet? Even better, have you found a job that offers good benefits? Life can be down right shitty sometimes. There is hope though. Just follow the advise in the entitlement thread. You don't like it change it. Get more education, start your own business, change jobs....easy enough. You can do it.

Actually, I do feel for ya! I lived through it with Bushie. Hell, even longer than you will have to endure. I was stuck with him as governor before that.
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
I know of two very good staunch republicans that are very happy that Obamacare passed. One has a daughter with some kind of kidney disease and she has been able to stay on his policy and will now be able to get her own policy when the time comes because they can't deny her anymore. Another has heart disease and has just been praying that nothing happened to him until he could get insurance.

While some may be whining, others are very grateful. Can't please all the people all the time.

Dictation or Entitlement, whatever it is, the solution is the same. Find a job with good insurance benefits. You have to live with what life dealt ya! Right now you've got you a dictator.

I only brought up Bushie to empathize with you. I counted the days until that dumb ass was out of office.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
So two republics were helped, how about the 90k in my state alone that could afford what they were paying for and now if they can't they have no health coverage? They should just get another job and change careers for the common good?

I don't call that whining, your taking food along with many other things off the table when premiums double & triple. That doesn't help anyone.

The government screws up everything it touches.. and has no place in the healthcare business. The solution is people vote these morons out of office and take a stand against this kind of crappy legislation.

You can keep your empathy, go education someone that will do far more good.





I know of two very good staunch republicans that are very happy that Obamacare passed. One has a daughter with some kind of kidney disease and she has been able to stay on his policy and will now be able to get her own policy when the time comes because they can't deny her anymore. Another has heart disease and has just been praying that nothing happened to him until he could get insurance.

While some may be whining, others are very grateful. Can't please all the people all the time.

Dictation or Entitlement, whatever it is, the solution is the same. Find a job with good insurance benefits. You have to live with what life dealt ya! Right now you've got you a dictator.

I only brought up Bushie to empathize with you. I counted the days until that dumb ass was out of office.
 

Boxergirl

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... even if no one wanted it ...

I don't think that nobody wanted it. I think that many were very hopeful because it's clear that something needs to be done. Is the ACA the solution? As it stands, I don't believe it is. Still, anyone that thinks that our current system doesn't need some tweeking must be looking at something different than I and my friends are.

I know of two very good staunch republicans that are very happy that Obamacare passed. One has a daughter with some kind of kidney disease and she has been able to stay on his policy and will now be able to get her own policy when the time comes because they can't deny her anymore. Another has heart disease and has just been praying that nothing happened to him until he could get insurance.

This, exactly. Both of my children are Type 1 Diabetics. Eldest DD is 21 and was dx'd at 2yrs old. Younger is 18 and was dx'd at age 13 - and has just started on pills to prevent damage to her kidneys because despite our best efforts she's showing signs of early kidney disease. We're also waiting for results of a test that may indicate she has Addison's Disease.

Maybe I look at things differently than many other people, but then my circle of friends is largely made up of either dog people or parents of children with chronic disease. One of my friends just lost her 16yo DD to Cystic Fibrosis two weeks ago. (Purple for Colleen!) Her other daughter also has CF. I know that my friend has spent many nights worrying about how her children, now child, will pay to stay alive once she is off of their insurance. I can tell you that our monthly medical and pharmacy bill is equal to a mortgage payment. And I'm very thankful that I have insurance so I can afford, albeit with making sacrifices, to pay for my girls' care. I'm thankful that they can remain on our insurance until they are 26 and that they won't be denied coverage when they need to find their own. Yes, I know they will likely spend more. Still ... there is no way my children, or my friend's remaining daughter, could afford their meds/supplies/doctors without some kind of insurance. Their health care will never be less expensive. It's a fact. And I often wonder how people without some kind of insurance can afford to treat a chronic disease.

I'm not saying that it's right that those who had health insurance are looking at going without. It absolutely isn't. It's also not right that some people need insurance and are denied or can't afford it. My hope is that "affordable" will, with changes, become truly affordable. I also tend to think that if there were a little less hatred between the two sides, perhaps a viable solution could be figured out.
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
It would seem to me AB is not giving her opinion but rather giving your opinion back to you. More or less.... If the cost of living has out paced your income, find a new job, move, work 2 jobs ect.. Simply put, the govt has not raised your rates. But big business has. I still have not heard a good reason why the price would go up. Not after deducting the boon they get from every person having it. So being that it's big business that is doing it, it seems it should be fair game.

The end result will be, once again, more regulation. This time on rates
 

angelbears

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Boxergirl, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for what as a family you have to face. I am thankful that Diabetes treatment has come a long way and hopefully before long it gets even better. My condolences to your friend. Yellow Roses is terrible and no one should have to go through it.

Be it Obamacare, Boehnercare, or Cruzcare. I just hope that a solution is found.
 

angelbears

Well-Known Member
It would seem to me AB is not giving her opinion but rather giving your opinion back to you. More or less.... If the cost of living has out paced your income, find a new job, move, work 2 jobs ect.. Simply put, the govt has not raised your rates. But big business has. I still have not heard a good reason why the price would go up. Not after deducting the boon they get from every person having it. So being that it's big business that is doing it, it seems it should be fair game.

The end result will be, once again, more regulation. This time on rates

Now Chuck, you know that what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander.
 

angelbears

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Boxergirl

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Boxergirl, I just wanted to say I'm sorry for what as a family you have to face. I am thankful that Diabetes treatment has come a long way and hopefully before long it gets even better. My condolences to your friend. Yellow Roses is terrible and no one should have to go through it.

Be it Obamacare, Boehnercare, or Cruzcare. I just hope that a solution is found.

Thank you, AB. It's our life and has been for many years. Lucky for us it's a disease that can be controlled. Others aren't that lucky. I've worked too hard to keep my kids healthy to have them lose insurance when they are 26. It's simply unacceptable to me. There must be a solution somewhere.
 

joshuagough

Well-Known Member
No, she's confusing two different topics.

So if the government hasn't "raised my rates" as you say. How am I going to be insured now that I have a notice that says my plan is cancelled effective Jan 1st? I can't keep that plan.

My options at this point is to pay the fine or go to .gov for a plan with similar coverage that is nearly 3 times are much as what I'm paying now, with a higher deductible. Lets say my salary drops then I'm choosing between health care and my mortgage?



It would seem to me AB is not giving her opinion but rather giving your opinion back to you. More or less.... If the cost of living has out paced your income, find a new job, move, work 2 jobs ect.. Simply put, the govt has not raised your rates. But big business has. I still have not heard a good reason why the price would go up. Not after deducting the boon they get from every person having it. So being that it's big business that is doing it, it seems it should be fair game.

The end result will be, once again, more regulation. This time on rates
 

chuckorlando

Well-Known Member
I get your point. But no, the govt has not raised any rates. The rates you get are rates generated by insurance companies. Not the govt. The govt simply mandated you have ins. The ins comps have raised the rate.

Two totally different things there.