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Doggies on the furniture?

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Bantu

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Cody said:
Awwww lmao! You are funny.
I am not a breeder. I am one of the few who is passionate about the breed, but has no desire to be a breeder, there are more then enough out there already :cool:
And as for my dogs, well the older one's lines are literally right off the Farm in Manefredi (Southern Italy).Definitely not show lines, but she is trained as a therapy dog. So no, she is not used in a "working" aka bite work venue. Could she? Absolutely, but that is not what I want to do with her.

The pup's father was trained/worked in French Ring, as was mom, as I am in the process of training her now ;)
Her mom was imported from Southern Italy, a mix of old farm Corso and Dyrium, dad was bred by my breeder and is old Cerberus x Paoletti.
And yes, the pups breeder does breed for true temperment, high drive, working lines. Which is WHY she breeds so rarely. She doesn't want to produce a huge number of pups with high drive and hard temp to find homes for.
And just for you Bantu, here are pics of mom (Fornax) and Dad (Beni)
Any more questions?
How is your "dog" doing there Bantu?
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I'm impressed and surprised. So your pup was tested and had the drives adequate for pp work? Ie prey derive, defense drive, fight drive etc
 
Cody

Cody

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Glad to impress you Bantu, makes my day :rolleyes:

Would love for you to answer some questions posed to you here.
Then maybe I'll answer yours ;)


Back to the couch, it is an individual choice.
And dependent on the dog IMO.
 
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sunbear

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Mine are spoiled. We got an old sectional just for them. They each have a love seat sized couch of their own. And they do love the chairs, other couches (but have to share if we are on them),and Moose figured out how to make the lazy boy recline. They can sit anywhere, but like to sleep on their blankets.
 
STEVSH

STEVSH

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I'm so in love with Gus :) I saw my first Dogo at the dog park this summer and absolutely fell in love with the breed. I'd never heard of them before.
 
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sunbear

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I will try and get one of him. At about 9 months old, he figured out how to lean back and make it recline like Daddy. Now he can totally stretch out on it.
 
Kandie

Kandie

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Kapone is only allowed on the couch when invited and has to be on top of a blanket. But he does sleep in our bed, under the covers in fact, right by our legs. He will get down when told (if I get hot or want to stretch out, he has to go, lol) and lay on the floor next to the bed. He has a dog bed in the living room, where he lays during the day, or under my feet while im on the couch.
 
boxer1200

boxer1200

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Archie said:
Just have to say that I consider this an improper attitude for anyone who has pets and quite irrational as well. After all, children don't pay the bills, and until a certain age don't cook or clean the house, either, but are certainly allowed on the furniture and are not (except in pathological households) considered inferior to adults.

There may be valid reasons for keeping pets off the furniture, e.g. wanting to preserve the furniture from shedding, worries about animals damaging the furniture (especially puppies), etc. Yours, however, isn't one of them.
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Please never compare kids with dogs ( my pet hate ) two different species.Dogs should always and I mean always sit or sleep lower then all family members but most of all kids, on nice soft beds, rugs etc
 
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Bantu

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boxer1200 said:
Please never compare kids with dogs ( my pet hate ) two different species.Dogs should always and I mean always sit or sleep lower then all family members but most of all kids, on nice soft beds, rugs etc
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Your perception of the obvious is quite acute. I think we get that kids and dogs are different species. But dogs don't have to sleep on floors all the time to maintain our dominance (unless your dog knowledge predates the 80's). Mastiffs is general should be quite submissive so once they know who's boss they won't continue to get you. They don't haves the German temperament associated with Rotts or Shepherds. Now if you want them off the furniture because of other reasons great. But don't make snarky statements that are misleading.

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STEVSH said:
Bingo ;)
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Nice try, no bingo:(
 
boxer1200

boxer1200

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Bantu said:
Your perception of the obvious is quite acute. I think we get that kids and dogs are different species. But dogs don't have to sleep on floors all the time to maintain our dominance (unless your dog knowledge predates the 80's). Mastiffs is general should be quite submissive so once they know who's boss they won't continue to get you. They don't haves the German temperament associated with Rotts or Shepherds. Now if you want them off the furniture because of other reasons great. But don't make snarky statements that are misleading.

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Nice try, no bingo:(
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Which Mastiffs is general do you mean? one's like Cane corso. dogo argentino,presa canario, boerboel and many others, they will often test your or other family members (like kids) dominance well into adulthood. Start as you mean to go on and no mixed messages for me.
 
Daisy Jo

Daisy Jo

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As i sit (on the couch with dazer and a sick little boy home from school) reading these posts, I almost feel like i shouldnt have started this thread. Almost. I mean, i was just asking a general question, more of a 'poll' than anything else. Just out of curiosity wanted to know who does and who doesnt, NOT why those who do or do not are bad/wrong/idiots, etc. Not that the word idiot has actually been used, but the 'tone' has certainly been present. I definately didnt anticipate things getting so personal. I really dont understand why some feel the need to continue the negative comments. Seriously...

Obviously, dogs are dogs and people are people. Although some who dont (or even those who do) have children consider their pet to be just that, thier child, the 2 shouldnt be clumped together into one group. Duh!

As far as listening to the advice of fellow mastiff owners, i, personally, would rather (as a newish owner myself) listen to and heed the words of those who have more experience. And though one cant necessarily prove on any website/forum that all words being spoken/typed are in fact, truth...just in my short time as a member of this forum, i think i can discern between those who really appear to know what they're talking about as opposed to those who seem to be more or less 'spouting off at the mouth', whether for entertainment or argumentative reasons, idk. But it begs the question...

...bantu...what breed(s) of dog(s) do you own/have owned/have experience with? Im just curious as u seem to have deemed yourself an authority on this topic.

...and to sunbear...i bet that is hilarious and adorable!
 
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Bantu

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boxer1200 said:
Which Mastiffs is general do you mean? one's like Cane corso. dogo argentino,presa canario, boerboel and many others, they will often test your or other family members (like kids) dominance well into adulthood. Start as you mean to go on and no mixed messages for me.
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Incorrect. Actually Dogos should be more pack driven and shouldn't continue to struggle for dominance. As far as Corsi are concerned some lines have been outcrossed to Rott and are more rank driven, true Corsi should not be. Remember these are dogs that should be safe with children as their protectors. A rank driven dog is much more likely to snap. When I say mastiffs I mean Neos's,BM's, Em's etc. This is why many prefer not to use rank driven dogs for family guardians BTW.

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Daisy Jo said:
As i sit (on the couch with dazer and a sick little boy home from school) reading these posts, I almost feel like i shouldnt have started this thread. Almost. I mean, i was just asking a general question, more of a 'poll' than anything else. Just out of curiosity wanted to know who does and who doesnt, NOT why those who do or do not are bad/wrong/idiots, etc. Not that the word idiot has actually been used, but the 'tone' has certainly been present. I definately didnt anticipate things getting so personal. I really dont understand why some feel the need to continue the negative comments. Seriously...Obviously, dogs are dogs and people are people. Although some who dont (or even those who do) have children consider their pet to be just that, thier child, the 2 shouldnt be clumped together into one group. Duh! As far as listening to the advice of fellow mastiff owners, i, personally, would rather (as a newish owner myself) listen to and heed the words of those who have more experience. And though one cant necessarily prove on any website/forum that all words being spoken/typed are in fact, truth...just in my short time as a member of this forum, i think i can discern between those who really appear to know what they're talking about as opposed to those who seem to be more or less 'spouting off at the mouth', whether for entertainment or argumentative reasons, idk. But it begs the question......bantu...what breed(s) of dog(s) do you own/have owned/have experience with? Im just curious as u seem to have deemed yourself an authority on this topic. ...and to sunbear...i bet that is hilarious and adorable!
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I apologize for helping to deviate the thread from its original purpose. I have had experience with BM's,EM's, Dane's,Neo's,DDB's, and Pits. As well as small amounts with Corsi and Presa as well as some dogs that don't matter:)
 
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Bantu

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Daisy Jo said:
As i sit (on the couch with dazer and a sick little boy home from school) reading these posts, I almost feel like i shouldnt have started this thread. Almost. I mean, i was just asking a general question, more of a 'poll' than anything else. Just out of curiosity wanted to know who does and who doesnt, NOT why those who do or do not are bad/wrong/idiots, etc. Not that the word idiot has actually been used, but the 'tone' has certainly been present. I definately didnt anticipate things getting so personal. I really dont understand why some feel the need to continue the negative comments. Seriously...Obviously, dogs are dogs and people are people. Although some who dont (or even those who do) have children consider their pet to be just that, thier child, the 2 shouldnt be clumped together into one group. Duh! As far as listening to the advice of fellow mastiff owners, i, personally, would rather (as a newish owner myself) listen to and heed the words of those who have more experience. And though one cant necessarily prove on any website/forum that all words being spoken/typed are in fact, truth...just in my short time as a member of this forum, i think i can discern between those who really appear to know what they're talking about as opposed to those who seem to be more or less 'spouting off at the mouth', whether for entertainment or argumentative reasons, idk. But it begs the question......bantu...what breed(s) of dog(s) do you own/have owned/have experience with? Im just curious as u seem to have deemed yourself an authority on this topic. ...and to sunbear...i bet that is hilarious and adorable!
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I apologize for helping to deviate the thread from its original purpose. I have had experience with BM's,EM's, Dane's,Neo's,DDB's, and Pits. As well as small amounts with Corsi and Presa as well as some dogs that don't matter:)
 
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tyhatts

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Bantu said:
Wow that had a lot of content. "Gus isn't allowed on the couch" . Your knowledge of dogs is mind blowing.
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1st - I'm just curious...... "Gus isnt allowed on the couch " .... What does that have to do with the amount of knowledge he has on dogs ???
The OP was regarding allowing your dogs on the furniture..... He replied to the OP.... " gus isnt allowed on the couch " .... ?

2nd.... Jenny is aloud on the couch sometimes. If she has just come in from outside, she has to go to her bed ( big blanket folded in the living room with us) ... But if her paws are clean and she hasn't just had a meal.... we will let her up to cuddle with us. She knows her place though, when its time to get down, its TIME to get down. We just picked up a new bed... and I need a step ladder to get on it, so We are not to worried about her on the bed. She just got a big new crate with a fancy bed in it.... At first, it scared the crap out of her... now she loves her new crate. She will sleep in her crate 95% of the time.... we leave the door unlocked and once in a while you will her the "tap tap tap" of her nails at about 3-4 in the morning.... Shes headin to the couch ! Thats another time we leave her be. hahah

3rd - Bantu, Im beginning to really see your a VERY experienced/knowledgable person here....... I would reallllly like to see your dogs. They must be beautiful specimans, being raised by an expert like yourself. If you could, take a minute or two and post some pics of your beautiful Dogs. Im sure we are ALL axiously waiting to see them ! What breeds do you currently have at the moment ? If you dont mind me asking.


Thanks ;)
 
Cody

Cody

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Bantu said:
As far as Corsi are concerned some lines have been outcrossed to Rott and are more rank driven, true Corsi should not be. Remember these are dogs that should be safe with children as their protectors. A rank driven dog is much more likely to snap.
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So in you experience with Corso, may I ask which "true Corso" lines you have had experience with?
I am quite curious. Also by experience do you mean you have owned one or more?
 
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