The Tarzan Syndrome

[MandyLionRock]

Maybe it's not your dog they want to cuddle up with, MLR!

Mine attract quite a different demographic. Kids love Sid, and so does virtually everyone who sees this fluffy little provocateur... and Tali doesn't want anyone she doesn't know to touch her.

The people who seem to disrespect her clear signals to steer clear are usually young muscled men, of various races. She's just so freakin' gorgeous they can't help it. Zombie-like they oooo and ahhhhh towards her, transfixed by her beauty. It's not their germs that are my concern in this scenario. Hats and sunglasses where she can't see their eyes are the worst. Just because she's all muscles and they're all muscles does not mean love from her. She's a magnet for beautiful but dumb very young dudes.

Jamie, I think what you do is awesome! We're thinking about training Sid for that as he's already a huge hit at the personal care home my dad lives at when he goes to visit grandpa. Tali we'll be happy if we get her to where she will just be more relaxed around acquaintances.




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Cuddle me...? That was funny.

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[MandyLionRock]

My non-mastiff dog is a therapy pet and we do visits at hospitals, nursing homes, schools, etc. Sadie is very calm and probably the most perfect therapy dog ever. She is a total natural and literally bomb proof. Well we were visiting a new unit in the hospital and as we were buzzed through the doors a VERY flamboyant male nurse spotted Sadie and literally came running over screeching in a higher pitched voice than my 4yr old. Before I knew it he was on the floor totally groping her. She has been trained to ignore some pretty ridiculous situations but this was a whole different level. Apparently this guy lives for the dogs and every dog LOVES him. Poor Sadie looked totally confused and I had to quickly pull her away from the guy. I never visited that unit again....I really hope that guy does not own a dog.

It's weird how many dog lovers have absolutely no clue how to behave themselves around dogs.

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[MandyLionRock]

Great looking pair Marke.
Here it's a bit funny if wife is walking Mouse alone everyone gives them plenty of space (past the kids in the neighborhood, they all know him), it's when I'm walking him that people decide they have to come and pet him, male and female, though it seems to be women that always have to do the high pitched squeaky voice.

Why do these women think that dogs enjoy that kind of a voice? Anyone have any theories on that?

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[TWW]

Better question is why do they think anyone enjoys it?
Mouse since he was a pup has visited the elderly and the terminally ill and is extremely gentle with them, but give a 20 something screeching and he falls into play bark mode and generally scares them.

Why do these women think that dogs enjoy that kind of a voice? Anyone have any theories on that?

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[Yamizuma]

Better question is why do they think anyone enjoys it?
Mouse since he was a pup has visited the elderly and the terminally ill and is extremely gentle with them, but give a 20 something screeching and he falls into play bark mode and generally scares them.

Eeeek! A Mouse!!! (Nah, that's not it, is it? Can't be...). He's no doubt a huge people magnet. Tali does that too - and the expressions on people's faces when She gets all puffy....priceless.

It's a true puzzle, to which I have no earthly clue! Probably have only ever loved doggy dogs from afar.

I wonder how they behave in shoe stores? Any takers on bets that these folks might be the same ones who get screechy and excited over a $600 pair "of "cute" shoes and a handbag that matches them to fit Fi-Fi at brunch"?

Not that I don't appreciate the odd pair of well crafted, aesthetically pleasing footwear at times...but my mind seems to remain inside my skull where I can find it instead of losing it.


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[QY10]

Some people seem to talk to dogs the same way that they talk to babies; high-pitched gibberish.

No one really bothers Angus and I when we go walking. He's got a bit of an eff-off attitude when we're walking. He walks those trails like he owns them and most people just politely move out of our way. I sometimes use a leash that says, "IN TRAINING" on it just as an extra precaution.

The people who do bother us are the usually the ones who think that Angus HAS TO meet their dog and when I say, "no" they take that as an opportunity to lecture me on socializing my dog and if I would just let Angus off leash to meet their horrendous off-leash dog (in an ON-LEASH PARK) they could be best of friends and run and play and be unruly together. Yeah, no thanks.

 

[Boxergirl]

The people who do bother us are the usually the ones who think that Angus HAS TO meet their dog and when I say, "no" they take that as an opportunity to lecture me on socializing my dog and if I would just let Angus off leash to meet their horrendous off-leash dog (in an ON-LEASH PARK) they could be best of friends and run and play and be unruly together. Yeah, no thanks.

Ah, yes. I have a "dog in need of space" aka DINOS. I live in a neighborhood where people think that their dogs are exempt from the town leash law. Even if they don't have dogs, the majority of people are clueless when it comes to dogs. What is described in the article linked below has happened more times than I can say. And the problem is that when people don't listen to a firm request, I'm forced to raise my voice and get my dog out of the situation - which then makes him anxious because I've raised my voice. So frustrating.

http://dogsinneedofspace.com/2012/12/01/my-dog-is-friendly-a-public-service-announcement/

 

[marke]

Great looking pair Marke.
Here it's a bit funny if wife is walking Mouse alone everyone gives them plenty of space (past the kids in the neighborhood, they all know him), it's when I'm walking him that people decide they have to come and pet him, male and female, though it seems to be women that always have to do the high pitched squeaky voice.

thank you TWW , I think she is a beautiful pup too , and she is drivey like her mom ......... like with your wife , it may be something about me that keeps them away .........perhaps the folks that aren't worrying about the leashes and harnesses holding up , take their cue from my concerned ................... .............................

 

[Nik]

I might be a Tarzan - well aside from the rude reaching out and approaching without asking part. But I do have a desperate desire to meet every non rat dog I see and I do have the belief that all animals love me (aside from chickens and geese which are just plain evil creatures). But that's because all animals do kind of seem to love me.. Ever since I was a kid. And I also have the high pitch 4 year old voice but that isn't my fault it's just my voice :/


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[Yamizuma]

I might be a Tarzan - well aside from the rude reaching out and approaching without asking part. But I do have a desperate desire to meet every non rat dog I see and I do have the belief that all animals love me (aside from chickens and geese which are just plain evil creatures). But that's because all animals do kind of seem to love me.. Ever since I was a kid. And I also have the high pitch 4 year old voice but that isn't my fault it's just my voice :/


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Aw...Nik! I've never heard your voice, but suspect you wouldn't be at all one of the goofs I've had issues with. Tali is fine with girlish voices, as long as they don't get touchy feely without her invitation. You wouldn't ask if my dog is friendly and when I say no, she doesn't like strangers proceed to hug her, I'm sure. (I always want to pat them too...hard not to!). Never felt the urge to pet a chicken, though.


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[Liz_M]

Ah, yes. I have a "dog in need of space" aka DINOS. I live in a neighborhood where people think that their dogs are exempt from the town leash law. Even if they don't have dogs, the majority of people are clueless when it comes to dogs. What is described in the article linked below has happened more times than I can say. And the problem is that when people don't listen to a firm request, I'm forced to raise my voice and get my dog out of the situation

Love that link, and so true!

I would get really frustrated with people whose off-leash dog would come charging at us with the happy yell "It's OK my dog is friendly!" At which point I would have to respond with, "My dog is not friendly" and immediately I become the Bad, Mean Dog Owner.


You know what, I worked extremely hard to have my dogs behave and be polite in public, but I really don't believe they should be forced to tolerate strange dogs or people charging them and messing with them.


As I said earlier, I do not have vitriol for these people, they are just uneducated, so I try to make these teaching moments. Not all breeds are the same. Would you appreciate strangers rushing and touching you or your child, without asking first. Etc.

 

[Yamizuma]

Ah, yes. I have a "dog in need of space" aka DINOS. I live in a neighborhood where people think that their dogs are exempt from the town leash law. Even if they don't have dogs, the majority of people are clueless when it comes to dogs. What is described in the article linked below has happened more times than I can say. And the problem is that when people don't listen to a firm request, I'm forced to raise my voice and get my dog out of the situation - which then makes him anxious because I've raised my voice. So frustrating.

http://dogsinneedofspace.com/2012/12/01/my-dog-is-friendly-a-public-service-announcement/

Brilliant article! Happens to people too, sadly, especially pregnant women and celebrities. Just because I was on the TV last night does not mean I want to hug you when you see me at the breakfast restaurant the next morning. You saw me, I didn't see you. And don't go feeling a random pregnant woman's tummy in the elevator to ask if it's a boy or a girl. Rules, boundaries, limitations can be good.


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[Nik]

Aw...Nik! I've never heard your voice, but suspect you wouldn't be at all one of the goofs I've had issues with. Tali is fine with girlish voices, as long as they don't get touchy feely without her invitation. You wouldn't ask if my dog is friendly and when I say no, she doesn't like strangers proceed to hug her, I'm sure. (I always want to pat them too...hard not to!). Never felt the urge to pet a chicken, though.


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It is true I wouldn't touch anyone's dog without permission and usually I lead in with telling people how beautiful the dog is and then asking what breed if I don't know it. Then I don't ask if the dog is friendly i instead ask if I can pet the dog since there are a billion reasons someone wouldn't want you to. and nope I would never just hug a dog I just met... I wonder if those same people are the ones who feel the need to hug strangers and violate personal space. lol


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[cinnamon roll]

Nik, you nailed it.

 

[Yamizuma]

Yep!


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[Yamizuma]

She sure did!


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[MandyLionRock]

I might be a Tarzan - well aside from the rude reaching out and approaching without asking part. But I do have a desperate desire to meet every non rat dog I see and I do have the belief that all animals love me (aside from chickens and geese which are just plain evil creatures). But that's because all animals do kind of seem to love me.. Ever since I was a kid. And I also have the high pitch 4 year old voice but that isn't my fault it's just my voice :/


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The sound of your voice is not the issue at all. You may have a high pitched voice but what I'm talking about is screeching and the whole insane behavior that goes along with that kind of insanity.
As far as all animals loving you. While most dogs do appreciate people who have love for them and are able to sense that let me assure you that this does not apply to "all".
A properly bred Fila, Mastino, Caucasian O, Kangal and so on would and should not love you back unless you are family and in some cases they only love one person.
Assuming that all dogs love you can get you hurt and is often a giant box of trouble once opened.


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[MandyLionRock]

Love that link, and so true!

I would get really frustrated with people whose off-leash dog would come charging at us with the happy yell "It's OK my dog is friendly!" At which point I would have to respond with, "My dog is not friendly" and immediately I become the Bad, Mean Dog Owner.


You know what, I worked extremely hard to have my dogs behave and be polite in public, but I really don't believe they should be forced to tolerate strange dogs or people charging them and messing with them.


As I said earlier, I do not have vitriol for these people, they are just uneducated, so I try to make these teaching moments. Not all breeds are the same. Would you appreciate strangers rushing and touching you or your child, without asking first. Etc.

I agree with you wholeheartedly

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[MandyLionRock]

Some people seem to talk to dogs the same way that they talk to babies; high-pitched gibberish.

No one really bothers Angus and I when we go walking. He's got a bit of an eff-off attitude when we're walking. He walks those trails like he owns them and most people just politely move out of our way. I sometimes use a leash that says, "IN TRAINING" on it just as an extra precaution.

The people who do bother us are the usually the ones who think that Angus HAS TO meet their dog and when I say, "no" they take that as an opportunity to lecture me on socializing my dog and if I would just let Angus off leash to meet their horrendous off-leash dog (in an ON-LEASH PARK) they could be best of friends and run and play and be unruly together. Yeah, no thanks.

You are right. They do talk (scream) baby gibberish.
You know... being that I'm 6.5 and tattooed all over usually means no one wants to talk to me. This plus having a true 200 pound Mastino means men leave us in peace. It is these entitled kind of females who think that they have the right to intrude. I guess those are the same kind of women who act out of line at my concerts as well. I cannot tell you how often these women look surprised when I tell them that crotch grabbing is out of line. As if I said something offensive... lol

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[Yamizuma]

You are right. They do talk (scream) baby gibberish.
You know... being that I'm 6.5 and tattooed all over usually means no one wants to talk to me. This plus having a true 200 pound Mastino means men leave us in peace. It is these entitled kind of females who think that they have the right to intrude. I guess those are the same kind of women who act out of line at my concerts as well. I cannot tell you how often these women look surprised when I tell them that crotch grabbing is out of line. As if I said something offensive... lol

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They are probably are the same kind of women. Just like the male goofs that thought seeing me on their TV meant they had a relationship with me. 6'5" and tattoo-laden would make you not scary in my world, nor to my dog. The hat and sunglasses are off for her though, k? DH is 6' 3" and a total sweetie. You might be a truly bad guy, or not. My buddy Eric presents as the scariest looking bad guy ever, and would make you look like a fluffy pussycat, but he's actually a wonderful person. Kind, smart and sweet. I Never judge a book by it's cover. I might be very, very wrong.


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