Is it ever okay to growl?

[angelbears]

taraann81- thank you for that valuable information. It makes a lot of sense. I will be discussing this with my DH tomorrow to make sure the family is on the same page.

Cody- I don't know where you live, but yelling, and cursing at a complete stranger, who is seeking advice so they can do better is hardly considered polite. If that is considered normal etiquette on this site, I might have to find my information elsewhere, which would be a shame because everyone here really does seem quite knowledgeable.
I have already admitted I don't know anything about puppies, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. As they say, when you know better, you do better! However, I do ask questions because I am more interested in the "why" not just the "how to" you'll find me very receptive to new information, and new techniques, so it really isn't necessary to curse and yell for me to get the point.

You all will be happy to hear that I discussed the subject with my DH, and we will heed your advice and not be letting DS issue anymore corrections, and also get him more involved in the more positive aspects of puppy rearing.

For clarification, is it safe to allow him to participate in his obedience classes, obviously adult supervised?

I like you a lot. I hope you decide to stick around. You only learn by asking questions then exploring the options. I learn on here every day.

 

[HecatesKeeper]

I like you a lot. I hope you decide to stick around. You only learn by asking questions then exploring the options. I learn on here every day.

Aw, thanks! I hope so too, as I (obviously!) have a lot to learn!

 

[Cody]

Cody- I don't know where you live, but yelling, and cursing at a complete stranger, who is seeking advice so they can do better is hardly considered polite. If that is considered normal etiquette on this site, I might have to find my information elsewhere, which would be a shame because everyone here really does seem quite knowledgeable.
I have already admitted I don't know anything about puppies, which is why I joined this forum in the first place. As they say, when you know better, you do better! However, I do ask questions because I am more interested in the "why" not just the "how to" you'll find me very receptive to new information, and new techniques, so it really isn't necessary to curse and yell for me to get the point.

I think you may want to go back and read what I wrote. I would be interested in where exactly the "yelling and cursing" took place. There was no anger, just an explanation of why the post could have caused some people to react in a negative manner, if I recall the only name calling or anger was Ruth being called a "jerk". I do not want you to leave the forum, there is a lot of valuable information here, and people wanting to help. These are breeds we love and are passionate about. The Corso, in specific, for me personally and I want to see the breed prosper in the best light possible. I do not feel that my post was rude, nor did I yell, and I know I didn't curse, so I am not sure where that came from. If you did feel that I was perhaps too blunt then I apologize for that, but being blunt is in my nature. If you want to see yelling and cursing however I suggest you check out the Fila threads

 

[cookiedough39]

If you want to see yelling and cursing however I suggest you check out the Fila threads

:lolbangtable:

 

[HecatesKeeper]

I think you may want to go back and read what I wrote. I would be interested in where exactly the "yelling and cursing" took place. There was no anger, just an explanation of why the post could have caused some people to react in a negative manner, if I recall the only name calling or anger was Ruth being called a "jerk". I do not want you to leave the forum, there is a lot of valuable information here, and people wanting to help. These are breeds we love and are passionate about. The Corso, in specific, for me personally and I want to see the breed prosper in the best light possible. I do not feel that my post was rude, nor did I yell, and I know I didn't curse, so I am not sure where that came from. If you did feel that I was perhaps too blunt then I apologize for that, but being blunt is in my nature. If you want to see yelling and cursing however I suggest you check out the Fila threads

I am sorry for the miscommunication. I was not accusing you of yelling. As you can see by the quote, Ruth was the one yelling and cursing, and you claimed he was not being rude, my previous post was in regards to Ruth's comment, and your defending his comment. I was simply disagreeing with your definition of rude.
I don't mind your being blunt, and I appricate you sharing your respectful prospective. And I will be sure to keep my sensitive self away from those fila threads, thanks.

DO NOT ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN TO HUG THE DOG DAMMIT!!! ESPECIALLY when doing results in a position where the child is holding down the dog! Theres a REASON why the most common dog bites on children is to the face! Thats a VERY aggressive sort of move!

I do not think that Ruth was being a jerk

 

[Milton Meathead]

You never stop a dog from growling, a growl is a warning, without the ability to warn you leave the dog with nothing but the next step, a bite. After all dogs cant talk, this is their way of talking. Your dog was saying that she didn't like being pinned down and to get off. The very best thing you can do with your children is to teach them 1. to always be respectful to the dog and 2. to listen to the dog, if the dog growls its for a reason and to take heed. Barking/growling at the door is different, she is protecting her territory and that's what these breeds are meant to do. You wont raise a mean dog, don't let the kids give her a reason to growl, its not fair on the dog.

Totally agree!!

 

[Cody]

Lol, the Fila thread comment was a joke... kinda... they get nasty at times Ok, at times communication gets lost on the forums, can be difficult reading behind the typed message. One thing, I saw that you posted the parents on another thread, have you spoken with Brian about the growling? That would be a good option as well. BTW love Yunno, nice male!

 

[fila4me]

hey now!!! WHAT THE HELL,WE ARE PASSIONATE!!! LOL!!!!

 

[HecatesKeeper]

Lol, the Fila thread comment was a joke... kinda... they get nasty at times Ok, at times communication gets lost on the forums, can be difficult reading behind the typed message. One thing, I saw that you posted the parents on another thread, have you spoken with Brian about the growling? That would be a good option as well. BTW love Yunno, nice male!

I have not. I didn't want to bother him with so many questions....I feel like I've already asked him a billion.

And thanks! A friend recommended him, I was nervous to get a pup without meeting her first, but so far so good.

 

[cookiedough39]

So...does this all caps thing mean you are yelling?

 

[HecatesKeeper]

hey now!!! WHAT THE HELL,WE ARE PASSIONATE!!! LOL!!!!

Uh oh! You'd better quiet down or you might scare the newbie away with all that yelling ;-)

 

[fila4me]

So...does this all caps thing mean you are yelling?

LOL!! yes, it does. don't feel bad I didn't until a couple of years ago and my then 6yro told me!

 

[fila4me]

Uh oh! You'd better quiet down or you might scare the newbie away with all that yelling ;-)

hahahaaa, see you will fit in just fine!! don't be afraid of us Fila folk, most of us are like our beloved breed!! but still very sweet to those we like.

 

[Cody]

hahahaaa, see you will fit in just fine!! don't be afraid of us Fila folk, most of us are like our beloved breed!! but still very sweet to those we like.

Love the Fila threads personally. I have to say that they have taught me more then any thing else on the Fila that I have read And a great entertaining way to pass an evening lmao! Almost as good as the CC pages on FB

 

[fila4me]

Love the Fila threads personally. I have to say that they have taught me more then any thing else on the Fila that I have read And a great entertaining way to pass an evening lmao! Almost as good as the CC pages on FB

it's even better when we all get together for a Fila weekend!

 

[Kelly]

hey HK, welcome to the forum. lots to learn here, sometimes ya gotta have a thick skin, but ithink ultimately were here to support.

as far as the growling thing goes, right after i rescuedbmy boy he bit someone. no growl, justBAM!!! i was right there, it happeed so fast, i didnt even see it, tho i was looking right at him. it wasva severe bite the guy was off work for awhile, it was bad. am so relieved u r taking the neg. discipline responsibilty off your sons shoulders.

just fyi, this hite incident wasv11 yrs ago, weve come a long way, baby!

 

[Cody]

it's even better when we all get together for a Fila weekend!

I could not even imagine lol. Funny enough at CC events, like Nationals, it is relatively peaceful. I only saw the start of one fist fight at the last one I went to. But there were enough people to pull them apart before it really started lmao. @ Hecateskeeper I agree with Kelly. Is great that you are not going to allow your son to correct the pup any more I would definitely involve him in the training and take him to classes, I also recommend allowing him to feed the pup. My son makes our dogs sit and wait until he gives them the "go eat" command. I find it helps with their bond and that they respect him as he controls their food.

 

[DennasMom]

Lots of great advice and some, uh... interesting counter-points???

HK - welcome to the wonderful world of the forum, here. Never a dull moment! LOL.

One thing I heard in your post, was that the response to the hug might have been a groan versus a growl... Denna will groan at us when we lay on top of her, too. Turn-about is, apparently, NOT fair play in her mind... as she's ALWAYS laying on top of me - that's her favorite sleeping position when she's allowed up on the bed.

I think it's great that your 5 yr old has your trust with the puppy - but I also agree that allowing him to perform any negative discipline is a stress he doesn't need on his shoulders. I like all the good examples of boys and their dogs that others have posted that resulted from kids being an all-positive influence. I'd vote for that! Have you kids involved in training, for sure - kids like to teach tricks, and those are easier to teach with rewards based / clicker/marker type training methods.

So have fun!