I'm disgusted:/

[BAMCB]

Not sure if this is the right place to vent but here goes. I got on Facebook, which I've been avoiding, only to see an update from Chica's former owner. She wanted someone to ride with her to have another female bred. Mind you she claimed she had no time for Chica after the birth of her second child. In reality, after 3 attempts to breed with no pregnancy(vet records) she was shoved outside and left to fend for herself. We are still trying to get Chica healthy enough for a spay and here she is breeding more pups. Just pisses me off to no end ugh

 

[DDSK]

Some people huh?!!

 

[AKBull]

Save yourself some heartache and unfriend her...

 

[karennj]

Get her name and her kennel name out there so when people actually do their homework they see what kind of breeder she is.

 

[BAMCB]

Save yourself some heartache and unfriend her...

Yeah, I've thought that many times but it's like that gory scene. You want so bad to look away but just can't:/

 

[BAMCB]

Karennj- she does not have a kennel name that I know of. I found her through a rescue sight as she wanted to get rid of Chica. This new dog she's breeding is a Doberman. She said she had a breeding pair but I did not see or hear them. Sounds like this is a new female though. I think Chica was her only mastiff. The male mastiff belonged to her parents supposedly.

 

[DennasMom]

Is she claiming AKC registration? Can you complain to them, or BBB or some other agency to at least document the complaint against her??

Grrr....

 

[BAMCB]

I was contacted about Chica needing a home quick and just went to pick her up the next day. The owner recognized me from vet tech program(she dropped out in the first month), which I thought was weird she would admit seeing the condition of her dog. I'm only piecing the puzzle together from her story, chica's condition and vet records to guess what kind of breeder she is. She mentioned her breeding pair of dobermans(which I neither saw nor heard) had "paid for themselves" which finalized my opinion of her. I do not know of a kennel name or akc registration. Just really irritated she is breeding:/ not sure how far to go with it tbo.

 

[EverythingEnglishMastiff]

Pay a bum to whoop her ass! lol

Sorry only thing constructive I could think of.

 

[BAMCB]

Ok, now I'm debating on what to do. On a mastiff page, libby(Chica's former asshole) has a pregnant EM that she supposedly "rescued", along with advertising some more EMs needing homes (for a rehoming fee of course!). Says they're not hers but I feel like she is more involved than admitting. I should just leave the group but maybe contact an admin before I do? Or just drop it because we finally have a diagnosis and treatment started for Chica? Karma can certainly be unforgiving and not sure it's worth it. Seriously though, what would you all do?

She's advertising a FB page for her breeding but it won't show up for me, maybe for someone else?

 

[tlov]

So she breeds dobermans and EMs? I tried to go to her page but it says it's a closed group. Where is she located? I wonder what the local site she talks about finding the dogs on is? So you think she takes the dogs then tries to resell them for a rehoming fee?


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[season]

For me, I'd have blocked her and unfriended her a long time ago. I do my best to control what I can. If I don't like someone or something I remove it. But since you didn't, its causing you stress etc. That's your own fault since you choose to, as you say, watch the car wreck. Is it a said, ugly situation? Sure. She's not the only one out there that does this type of stuff and won't be the last. Could you go on a crusade to rid the world of these idiots? Sure, but that takes a lot of work and commitment. And even with that it won't stop idiots from doing it and it won't stop idiots from paying for these crappy services. Supply and demand.

 

[Boxergirl]

I disagree with Season. I think if we close our eyes to things like this then that's tantamount to condoning their activities. One of the first things I taught my girls was that what you allow becomes acceptable. That goes for a lot of things, including speaking up when you see something happening that is wrong. I'm someone that does my best to be the voice for those that don't have one. Just because she's not the only one that does this, doesn't mean that she shouldn't be exposed if possible. Stopping one person makes a difference. Educating one person makes a difference.

Unfortunately there isn't much you can do to stop her, but if it's important to you find out what you can legally say to inform others of her actions and the state that Chica was in. Including the fact that she was heartworm positive when you brought her home. You do have to be careful because we live in a sue happy society.

 

[season]

well said, but I'm not talking about not speaking up or closing your eyes to a problem. But if it's causing that much stress then sometimes you need to be be thankful for what you have and move on and away from it. That is a choice we have just like allowing ourselves to be stressed about something outside of our control. I also said, if a person wants to go on a crusade to put a stop to it or create some sort of movement against it then more power to them. Everyone just needs to pick their battles. We live in a world now where everyone has an issues with something. There is always a new "I'm offended by this" post on FB and other social media. Just last week you would have thought Target was going to closed down with all of the people offended by whatever it was. That's my point. It moves so quickly to the next "issue" people forget what they were offended by the week before. So if you want to raise awareness and be the one on the front lines then go for it. Just don't let it stress you out. At the end of the day this stuff will continue to happen. The beauty of it all is that we have the choice of how we choose to let it affect us.

 

[season]

In fact I'm all for fighting for something you believe in. Go for it. What I'm against (and no, I'm not saying the OP fits in this catagory) is people compaining all the time about "issues" and talking about how much it bothers them but yet do nothing about it. Those are the people that would benefit the most from being about to see that they are in control of how they react and what they choose to read on FB etc. instead of crying about it and then the next week crying about something else. These are the options we have. Accept the situation. Leave the situation or Change the situation. All else is madness.

 

[tmricciuto]

I think this is horrible, but caution you to be very careful. You could absolutely discuss your situation with Chica, but I wouldn't speak poorly about her. Just speak in what you actually saw and experience because there is a fine line between reality and slander. And as Boxergirl stated, we are a sue happy country.

 

[BAMCB]

I agree with speaking out for something I believe is wrong. And I agree with choosing to walk away if it causes too much stress. I do not pay attention to her personal posts anymore but this was on my news feed from a mastiff FB group. I could also get off all of the mastiff groups in fear of seeing these posts again but there is a part of me that cannot ignore what is happening. No, I won't be able to stop the world from doing this to animals but if you can stop just one then that is where you start. I would only speak about Chica and my experience(I have pictures and a paper trail) but I am very worried about a slander suit or opening a can of worms that may bite me in the butt.

I am just wanting opinions of what others would do. Or if anyone has had this scenario play out for them or someone they know. I am thankful for Chica and ecstatic for her to be done with her HW tx and put all this behind us. But it still bothers me she is continuing to do this. I've heard stories about her moving cross country, allergies, money problems, yada yada when people ask why she is rehoming pups. It's hard to just ignore

 

[season]

I agree with speaking out for something I believe is wrong. And I agree with choosing to walk away if it causes too much stress. I do not pay attention to her personal posts anymore but this was on my news feed from a mastiff FB group. I could also get off all of the mastiff groups in fear of seeing these posts again but there is a part of me that cannot ignore what is happening. No, I won't be able to stop the world from doing this to animals but if you can stop just one then that is where you start. I would only speak about Chica and my experience(I have pictures and a paper trail) but I am very worried about a slander suit or opening a can of worms that may bite me in the butt. I am just wanting opinions of what others would do. Or if anyone has had this scenario play out for them or someone they know. I am thankful for Chica and ecstatic for her to be done with her HW tx and put all this behind us. But it still bothers me she is continuing to do this. I've heard stories about her moving cross country, allergies, money problems, yada yada when people ask why she is rehoming pups. It's hard to just ignore

If I were you I would do whatever I could, within the law, and without getting yourself sued to bring attention to what she is doing. It's obviously something that is close to you since you have a dog that you took off of her. It's personal. It's emotional. Those things can be very powerful tools at changing situations as long as it's done with objectivity. Which isn't always easy. Have you tried talking to her? Telling her how you feel? Maybe she thinks there is nothing wrong with it. Just like there are people who think it's ok to fight dogs. That's how I would start. Call her and try to talk to her first.

 

[BAMCB]

If I were you I would do whatever I could, within the law, and without getting yourself sued to bring attention to what she is doing. It's obviously something that is close to you since you have a dog that you took off of her. It's personal. It's emotional. Those things can be very powerful tools at changing situations as long as it's done with objectivity. Which isn't always easy. Have you tried talking to her? Telling her how you feel? Maybe she thinks there is nothing wrong with it. Just like there are people who think it's ok to fight dogs. That's how I would start. Call her and try to talk to her first.

Thank you Season, that is good advice. I have also wondered if she does not see an issue. I knew she looked vaguely familiar but would have never placed her but she happily said where we knew each other from(vet tech program, she dropped out first month). I would have been ashamed if I had an animal in that condition and most certainly would not point out I knew them. Maybe it is time I call her. Especially since I now have a diagnosis and see the end in sight.

But you're right, this is personal. Chica has so much love to give even though she had never received any back. What a waste of an awesome dog's life for the benefit of a byb. This makes me very sad. And angry she has another pregnant EM that will surely suffer the same fate when she can no longer breed.