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gamestaff

Well-Known Member
I agree tiger, there are metal cables that are rated for very high weights. the problem with cables is they fray at high friction places and while they are still very strong the frayed portions cut your hand very easily, not to mention the dog. for that reason, I prefer a chain. great looking dogs by the way people.
 

DennasMom

Well-Known Member
... you just have to watch your look.. the last thing you need are people to make automatic assumptions.... they start making phone calls that lead to hassle, especially with our types of dogs.....

This was my thought... if you make the dog look TOO tough, people get worried and scared, and if any stray makes trouble in the neighborhood, all they'll remember is your mean-looking dog chained up in the garage on that big hurkin chain.
 

el gato diablo

Well-Known Member
This was my thought... if you make the dog look TOO tough, people get worried and scared, and if any stray makes trouble in the neighborhood, all they'll remember is your mean-looking dog chained up in the garage on that big hurkin chain.
I kind of agree with this line of thinking...I personally wouldn't want to be viewed as the 'tough guy' with the "giant pit-bull' (that's what people think CC are most of the time). I would also like to see CC, in the general public, represented more for their extreme intelligence, steadfast loyalty, and spectacular athletic prowess...and less for their tough image. The dog already looks like a badass...the chain says more about the owner and the truth is most people that see stuff like absurdly large chains on dogs, or super long spikes on a collar and just laugh...myself included.
 

coreyc

Well-Known Member
I kind of agree with this line of thinking...I personally wouldn't want to be viewed as the 'tough guy' with the "giant pit-bull' (that's what people think CC are most of the time). I would also like to see CC, in the general public, represented more for their extreme intelligence, steadfast loyalty, and spectacular athletic prowess...and less for their tough image. The dog already looks like a badass...the chain says more about the owner and the truth is most people that see stuff like absurdly large chains on dogs, or super long spikes on a collar and just laugh...myself included.
My thought was it reminds me of a young wantab gang banger walking down the sidewalk with a pitt on a chain like that trying to look like a bad a-- to me it just make the owner look bad
 
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onward_to_dawn

Active Member
Just curious do either of you live next to someone involved in organized crime? Do you live in Texas?

I am originally from the east coast, I understand your line of thinking but I find it to be a bit pretentious considering (I am assuming) that you do not live in an area that experiences criminal activity.
 

coreyc

Well-Known Member
Just curious do either of you live next to someone involved in organized crime? Do you live in Texas?

I am originally from the east coast, I understand your line of thinking but I find it to be a bit pretentious considering (I am assuming) that you do not live in an area that experiences criminal activity.
What does that have to do with have a dog tied to a huge chain ?? If I lived in an area like that I would have a trained guard dog off leash a chained dog not going to do any good if it cant get to the threat
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
Just curious do either of you live next to someone involved in organized crime? Do you live in Texas?

I am originally from the east coast, I understand your line of thinking but I find it to be a bit pretentious considering (I am assuming) that you do not live in an area that experiences criminal activity.
Well I mean I don't live in the "hood" but I'm pretty sure everywhere has there fair share of criminal activity.... you think the chain is scaring the bad guys away? I live about 30 min outside Philly.
 

thelady_v2010

Well-Known Member
I sent my husband out to get a choker chain, he came back with the biggest one they make "he will grow into it". Must be a man thing!

You are right, i don't live your life so I won't judge your chain or setup. I hope the pup does his job and keeps his family safe.
 

onward_to_dawn

Active Member
I am not saying the chain is scaring anyone away, that is ridiculous. What I am saying is that the emotional judgement you are making based on your perceptions of a chain is ridiculous.

I have already explained why I have my dog on a chain.

I drilled a 10in 1/4 inch hole into the center of the garage door and epoxied an eye hook 10in into the concrete. I then attached a tension spring, chain, swivel and climbing carabiner.

Why is the chain so big?

Eh, not sure, maybe I over estimated what I needed when he was little but as it is he won't need another one. Consider that if he bit someone walking into my garage (I have proper signage posted) it would be my legal responsibility in court to show that I properly thought out how to restrain my dog, and I have. This way I can go inside the house and do some work take care of the kids etc if he doesn't feel like going inside he can hang there without scaring the heck out of people by being off leash in my front yard with no fence. If someone comes up to the house to peddle goods or god, they know I have a big scary dog that doesn't like uninvited guests.

When he is outside which is rare its usually our backyard. If he doesn't feel like hanging out in the backyard with the stockade fence because its too hot he hangs out in the garage with the door cracked 1/2 way with a misting fan and a regular barrel fan, in the winter he has a space heater, and in the spring a dehumidifier.

You are correct, these are Velcro dogs he is literally my black shadow and goes most everywhere with me. When I am doing yard work in the front he follows me around, or to neighbors houses, etc (and he is always off leash). Its just that occasionally he hangs in the garage and watches people walk by or drive past, its a good deterrent and people driving through remember where he lives and he is able to get a handle on what is common and what is not common for the neighborhood.

Some things to consider, I live in a new housing development within Texas off of (35) which is basically the bloodline that supplies drugs to the continental USA from Mexico. Texas has a violent crime rate, its a fact. Sometimes there is gang activity within the area. About two weeks ago there was a body dumped on the steps of a local restaurant. Its better to be cautious and aware then complacent and ignorant, should I be scared? Nah.

In reflection I don't know why I am even arguing with a stranger about their perceptions of an inanimate object; a chain. I really need to make better use of my time. It was a pleasure meeting all of you.

Lates.
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
My concern is the weight of the chain on your pup. How old are they? If they are under 2, their bones and joints are still growing and if it's as heavy as it looks, I'd hate for it to have long term effects.
 

dogman#1

Well-Known Member
I don't know guys, that chain doesnt look like the super thick guage that "those people" use. The chain that Gamestaff has his on (in the pic) is about the same guage and no one said anything. I agree that there are cables that maybe stronger but as Game stated they do fray quite a bit and the dog (or yourself) may end up with lil metal splinters in ya. I for one would err on the side of caution with a tie out especially in the OP's situation where his garage may be open w/ people and their dogs passing by. You guys have to check out the leads and ties that I make... WAY overkill and could possible suspend a car in mid air... 5/8" rope, noose tie on both ends, 1 end with marine grade rope (screwed in) stainless steel clasp (can hold a yacht) leading off to a handle and the other end with a galvanized steel cable protector w. a 3" bull snap... minda ya it still doesnt look as "tuff" as a heavy thick chain but I bet it is 5Xs strong. Oh and I also made a fully adjustable collar out of a military issued pistol belt w/ welded in "D" ring.. also overkill but that was just to see how it would look and I dont even use it as I dont think it is very comfortable for her. Anyways what I'm getting at is that sometimes you use things that may seem like overkill to some, machismo to others but it may just be that you are just making 100% sure that nothing happens. I think this is the case in this situation.... could be wrong as he could be a vegetarian, long distance gang banger though, lol.

One more thing... that dog in the pic looks plenty big and strong enough to be able to handle the weight of that set up. The only thing I dont like about chain set ups is that they have no "give" in them. I would attach a peice of "bungee" cord on 4 links so it has some give and the dog doesnt slam its neck on a lunge.
 

el gato diablo

Well-Known Member
Just curious do either of you live next to someone involved in organized crime? Do you live in Texas?

I am originally from the east coast, I understand your line of thinking but I find it to be a bit pretentious considering (I am assuming) that you do not live in an area that experiences criminal activity.
I can only speak for myself...but if you do live in a high crime area, you should know that a big chain isn't going to be scaring anyone. And to that point really...no dog is going to be stopping the kind of criminals you purport to be living next to. They'll put two in the dog and come right in...
 

dogman#1

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure that he isnt trying to scare people with the chain... I believe he is trying to keep the dog in by using the heavier hardware.
 

Tiger12490

Well-Known Member
Hey do what you do... truly is not that big a deal, just a word of caution I gave you another option and told you just to be careful.... I use the rope but I make my own tie out, so there isn't the whole retard cutting the rope problem leaving the ends exposed, so that could possibly be it.. hey man if it floats your boat....
 

jersey girl

Well-Known Member
I can only speak for myself...but if you do live in a high crime area, you should know that a big chain isn't going to be scaring anyone. And to that point really...no dog is going to be stopping the kind of criminals you purport to be living next to. They'll put two in the dog and come right in...
Exactly! Come on, anyone using a chain like that is making a statement, there are plenty of choices out there besides a big heavy chain. Your dog could be hurt by this set up since there is no give to a metal chain. The reality is if you live in an area that has that much crime a dog on a chain will do you no good. As coreyc mentioned, you are better off having a dog trained in protection and have them off leash so they can attempt to protect you. I know my dog would protect me, but it's my job to protect her in a situation if I had to, that's why we have a Ruger 45ACP :)
 

dogman#1

Well-Known Member
Exactly! Come on, anyone using a chain like that is making a statement, there are plenty of choices out there besides a big heavy chain. Your dog could be hurt by this set up since there is no give to a metal chain. The reality is if you live in an area that has that much crime a dog on a chain will do you no good. As coreyc mentioned, you are better off having a dog trained in protection and have them off leash so they can attempt to protect you. I know my dog would protect me, but it's my job to protect her in a situation if I had to, that's why we have a Ruger 45ACP :)

The part in bold is what I was saying and the only really bad part (IMO) about the chain. I say give the guy some slack, maybe the other alternatives have not crossed his mind. the reality that having a large dog would/could thwart a potential crime, trained or not is valid though
 

jsavoni

Well-Known Member
just a short story of myself.
I was talking to my older brother telling him Sofia (my pup) is so sweet i dont think she would do anythign if anyoen came in. My brothers words "thats why you have your 9mm isnt it?" i laughed and said yes..... LOL