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Mooshi's Mummy

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I wouldn't go cheaper.....she is a typical TM and pushing her boundaries, you need to stay strong. I know I gave in with the scrambled egg but that's only because she may be in pup and I don't want her going more than 2 days without eating.
 

ruthcatrin

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Yah, she'll eat the new food fine for a while, and then do the same thing, and you'll switch to another food, and repeat, and so on, and she'll drive you batty!
 

Catia

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Ugh, this is just the grossest subject--but--the less poo she eats-the more difficult she is getting about eating her food.

Tessa was never picky about food for me-her foster said she had some issues, but I never did-she was too food driven-food crazy--not sure what is changing.

And, along with the food issue, Tessa has started to shed--NOW???? and it's not under coat, it's her hair.

I know the shed is because of the dietary change--she must've been getting something out of that poo.

Ruth-how many pounds of meat do you go through in a week feeding raw?
 

Doggyhelpplease

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Mine eats about 2 lbs a day though lately she is only wanting dinner so she is eating less. I never really calculate it but depending which meats as some are more expensive, I would say 70 to 100 a month. I stock up on chicken when it is 99 cents a pound. Keep in mind meat price will change dramatically depending on where you live. Where I live it isn't the cheapest but I can buy anything from the grocery store organs of like any animal, necks, heads, eyes....I don't feed here all that just saying you can get anything here testicals lol.
 

ruthcatrin

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Apollo varies between 1-4lbs of food depending on factors usually out of my control.

Cost wise....

Last month I spent approx $240 to buy 11lbs of (pig) liver, 55lbs of goat (on the bone, some edible bone some not), and 30lbs of chicken wings from the local wholesaler.

The chicken wings will last us at least 2 months possibly longer, the goat about 1.5months, the liver one month give or take, when combined with odds and ends picked up from another wholesaler and on "about to expire" sale at the grocery.

In general goat by the case runs $2.50/lb here and is one of the more expensive meats I buy. I can get cheap beef for less than that as long as I buy in bulk, pork for well under $2/lb, and poultry for well under $1/lb. BUT, those are all wholesale prices here. If you're buying retail you're going to pay a fortune. I rotate through which kind of meat I buy in bulk. Last month it was goat, next month probly pork, then maybe mutton, then maybe beef.

If you're trying to figure out costs for raw first see if you can find a whole-saler who'll sell to the general public, then also look for raw-feeding co-ops in your area, and then make sure you have space for a freestanding freezer if you don't already have one.

Raw co-ops lists:
http://www.dogaware.com/diet/rawgroups.html
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ruthcatrin

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That should read the liver will last two months not one.....Also, all that also feeds Arty too. He eats over 1lb a day usually.
 
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ruthcatrin

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And my husband just reminded me that that $240 included other stuff for us as well, so it was actually less than $200 for the dog food portion.

(its been a long week of not murdering idiots who left their christmass shopping till late, brain's shot)
 
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Catia

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Update on Tessa's 'Poo Fervor'

It was a LONNNGGG winter & the yard was not always able to be scooped.

I started to notice some type of correlation with--the less I scooped, the less Tessa was eating poo.

I believe my removing the poo vigilantly was stressing Tessa out.

I do not know if it has to do with territory marking, or if she was trying to copy me cleaning the yard, like helping the mama dog keep the den clean???
At any rate--there was some type of correlation.

She went from a daily attempt at eating poo to being more relaxed & pooing if it poo was left there.
Once some poo was left in the yard, she stopped doing that 'withholding poo & only clipping off a partial turd' thing she was doing.
She also stopped hiding poo (as far as I know).
She went back to her normal eating habits.

This isn't to say the poo eating has stopped completely. I'd say it's down by 90%.
More than once this past winter, Tessa brought me frozen 'logs'...disgusting.
Once I did not see she had something in her mouth (night) & she dropped a frozen turd in my bed.

This lead to Tessa getting a breath test before I would let her inside.
I would lift one of her chops & give a sniff-if she wa clear I praised her & let her inside.
If I sniffed shit breath, I cringed/gagged, backed off & pushed her back outside.

I *really* think she understood the sniffing test--of all things--it wasn't my plan-but she *really* seemed to understand I did not like the smell & I disapproved... maybe because it mimicked dog sniffing behavior??? After just a few breath tests--if she ate poo, she'd back away-she knew I would disapprove.
If she was all clear she'd not react to the sniff test at all.

I think the long winter with many snows & multiple freezes & shit piling up in the yard helped. Stressed me out, but relaxed her.
it appears her territory is adequately marked now???

Also, I stopped the dog walker, it was only supposed to be temporary, when she hurt her leg.
My XBF was coming over daily during this time & giving her a time in the yard to pee & a chill on the sofa. .ie: light duty.
BUT--during that week the poo issue at lunch break got better immediately.
She was withholding poo for the walker--over several months, she had only poo'd for him maybe 5 times, he would have to walk her then bring her to the yard to poo, & mostly she'd not go.
This began when I started letting him take her outside of the yard & on a regular walk.
She would hold it til I got home from work!

She also stopped hating her collar pretty much immediately. I had told him a few times I felt he had it too tight, & I would have to readjust it every day for her evening walk--He said it was not too tight--but it was. This is also the same reason she destroyed her harnesses-he would tighten them way too tight-she was viewing the harness as a bad thing.
Tessa also goes into her crate for xbf without being bribed & never gives him a problem. NEVER once.

XBF has never owned a pooch in his life, no dog training experience. He just follows my instructions, cuz he has seen that every single solitary time I gave instructions to another person & they did not follow them--I KNEW--because Tessa's behavior was off.
I was worried at 1st, but everything started to click.

When the owner/trainer walked Tessa, he never had any issues, he loved her--said she was "perfect".
When the walker/apprentice walked her, Tessa was described as 'difficult'--she didn't seem to dislike him, but I believe she disliked his style & the fact that the collar or harness was too damn tight & he was uptight.

Kids in the neighborhood said sometimes he looked like he was having a hard time with her. He was a big boy--a good 6' 185lbs...

I tried to tell him Tessa was trained to sit when people or dogs approached, & if she postured, to put her in a sit until they were passed --but to allow her to watch them pass while maintaining control, but I guess he just did not understand. He felt her stopping was an issue. I think they did not understand each other. As a result, I think she did not enjoy the walks, & also wouldn't relax to poo???

However, she was pooing for xbf no problem, from day 1.

Of course Tessa adores XBF, he is her favorite person. XBF thinks that's very amusing.
 

ruthcatrin

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Well cool.

Could be a marking behavior, or yup, I can see her thinking she was somehow helping. Apollo insists on pooping around the edges of hte property here. I always said he needed the privacy of the brush, but he does it "along the edges" pretty much anywhere we go.