Difficult choice

[Susana]

Actually we are monitoring two litters in two different breeders, one of them the mother is black, has an impeccable temperament and a fabulous constitution. The other female is also black, but has a more reserved and suspicious temper, is small in stature and therefore we do not like so much. The number 1 female had prolapse during pregnancy and was treated with antibiotics, and the dogs never breastfed. With a week longer than the second litter dogs are smaller. The second litter, only has 3 dogs, all accompanied by their mothers and breastfed from birth, are larger than the dogs litter 1 and eyes opened at 10 days.

The male progenitor of the second litter is Gvido Sangue Magnifica.

In these cases, which is stronger, genetic or condition of the dogs during the first 8 weeks?
Which puppy do you choose? from litter one or litter two?

Thanks.
S.

 

[Smokeycat]

If the things not mentioned are equal (health testing) I'd go with a pup from litter 1. The temperament of mom would outweigh birth size. Smaller litters tend to have bigger puppies due to mom's body being able to put more energy/nutrition into each fetus. Also bottle fed puppies tend to develop at a slower rate prior to weaning then natural fed.

 

[Ben Curtis]

With no medical knowledge backing my opinion what so ever. I would also choose litter 1. Temperament just like smokeycat said trumps birth size. My Leo's births size was quite small, and now taking into consideration what smokeycat said, it all makes sence now. He was in a litter of 11. Two did not make it, but with the mothers nutrients spread around so thin, it makes sense that they were all smaller. Leo is now 6 months and has caught up if not passed most other corso growth charts that I have seen.

I would say that a mother around it's pups being a bit carious is not a big deal. My former lab's mother was quite mean while guarding it's pups, but besides that it could not be a more gentler dog. With that said, if you have a mother that shows great temperament, it is probably actually an exceptional temperament and really should be your choice.

Is there much difference between the studs?

 

[Susana]

Thank you for your opinions. It realy helped

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Honestly without seeing them I wouldn't be able to know for sure, but can I ask why everyone assumes the temperament on the first one is better? If you went by the standard then the aloof nature (and this is assuming aloof and not unstable) of the second female would be more desirable and what I think most that don't want a happy go lucky puppy that loves everyone would lean towards. Also define small in statue? Bigger is not always better but a balanced, correct dog is what you should be looking for.

 

[Smokeycat]

I assumed the temperament of the first was better based on the wording in the OP. I took impeccable to mean better.

 

[Kelly]

Corso is supposed to be athletic, bigger isn't always better.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I assumed the temperament of the first was better based on the wording in the OP. I took impeccable to mean better.

You are correct, Susana what do you mean by impeccable in regards to temperament?

 

[Susana]

I mean very sociable and affable. But I also understand and agree with balckshadowcanecors point of view regarding the temperament.
and by the way, what do you think about the father (Gvido Sangue Magnifica)? i believe it's very important in this equation too.

 

[shodanusmc]

I totally agree with BlackShadow. My first male corso was terrific, but he was way too friendly with everyone. My 2nd Male (now 14 months old) is everything they should be. Great with us, Leery of strangers. You can hear the gears in his head moving as he observes.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

There are some that are social and that works for some people and then there are others that prefer the aloof temperament so when you said impeccable it was important to find out what you meant by it but not to assume that the second dog's temperament wasn't a correct temperament. I like quite a few of the SM dogs, Manuro and Osama being 2 of them.

 

[biggcliff]

I too am a fan of gvido and murano. I missed out on a Osama x Lucretia female

 

[Cody]

What are the pedigrees/lines of the dam and sire of both litters. Who are the breeders? What have the parents achieved (conformation/work) health tests PENNHIP/OFA scores?
There are some SM dogs I like and some I really don't. Again is personal choice.
When you say "suspicious" what do you mean? Is she nervous? Skittish? Or aloof and uncaring about new people. Does she shy away or ignore?
Different people have different idea's of correct temperament.
Bottom line is a Corso should be confident and stable.
More info on the 2 litters may be helpful.
That said, there are plenty of litters out there with decent litters on the ground...

 

[Susana]

thank you once more. she's more aloof and uncaring. not nervous.