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Crate training help?!?!?!?!

Time_1

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Yes, I would leash him everytime he goes to potty for two reasons....one you can immediately praise and treat him and it ensures you see him do his business. I think the crate is fine in your bedroom, I only asked in case he was sleeping in another room away from you. What time does he eat dinner and what time do you take him out for his final potty break?

Ill try the leash thing. Dinner is 630 and final potty is 930-945

I did the same thing with Luke. Always on a leash while potty training although the backyard is fenced in. No running or playing. When he was done doing his business we went back inside, leash off and then we could go back out to play. Always "separated" potty time/on leash and playtime/off leash, don't know why but have done the same thing with all my dogs and always had good luck with it. Luke was a breeze to potty train. And I was lucky never had to get up in the middle of the night to let him out. He slept from 11pm to 5am pretty much from day one as young as he was.

Mine has only slept thru the night once since we've got him. Most of the nights it's getting up sometimes twice to let him out
 

cayeesmom

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Mine has only slept thru the night once since we've got him. Most of the nights it's getting up sometimes twice to let him out

Now this is a very personal opinion, I treat my pups almost like a baby, if they try to wake me up in the middle of the night I let them "cry it out" for a little while and for me it has worked, they go right back to sleep. Again only my opinion, I think you can create a habit of needing to go in the middle of the night and also the pup knows quickly if she/he wakes up she/he can get you up also. Know to many people with dogs that will still not sleep through the night.
 

Time_1

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Now this is a very personal opinion, I treat my pups almost like a baby, if they try to wake me up in the middle of the night I let them "cry it out" for a little while and for me it has worked, they go right back to sleep. Again only my opinion, I think you can create a habit of needing to go in the middle of the night and also the pup knows quickly if she/he wakes up she/he can get you up also. Know to many people with dogs that will still not sleep through the night.

Tried that the other night and he pooped in his crate.

Last night went ok no accidents but he did have to go out a couple times. I gave him a small chew bone when we put him in there so we could go to sleep and that worked pretty good for him wanting to cry. Once he was done with that he didnt really cry. But taking him out in the middle of the night and then bringing him back in and trying to get him into the crate is another story. I have to pick him up to put him in there he will not go willingly. He also is a very bad listener
 

jersey girl

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At 13 weeks I was taking my pup out before bed at 11 PM and then I would take her out around 3 PM. I am a very light sleeper, so if I heard her awake I scooped her up and took her for a walk in the backyard. In all honesty, we never had an accident in the crate, only a couple of pee accidents in the house when I missed the qarning signs.
 

SUNCC49

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At 13 weeks it is going to be difficult for it to be held all night long. I believe the general rule of thumb is an extra hour of holding capability for every 4 weeks of growth, until the pup can hold it all night. By the 6-7 month you shouldn't have any issues.

Problem here sounds like the crate is too big to be honest. They can't have too much room to maneuver around.
 

Th0r

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I stopped waking up trough the night to take Thor out at around 14-15 weeks.
His last potty before bed is 8:30pm and towards the end I would wake up around 1-2am to take him out till I realized I was actually waking him up too. I would have to carry him to the back door and nudge him out. He'd pee and walk back in groggy still. So I stopped and he's never peed in his crate.
I wake up at 5 am and let him out at around 5:30 - 5:40 by the time I'm ready and go downstairs.
But for the first 2 weeks I would take him out every 2 hours. Week 10-12 was every 3 hours and then down to 1 until I stopped.

Big puppy with a big bladder. But every puppy is different. If you have to wake him up to take him out, then you can increase the time between potty breaks.

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Time_1

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No accidents in the crate in the past few days, only a couple inside the house. It's getting better I think but now the dog isn't eating like he was.

We had him on a bland diet because he ended up getting sick when we got him home and after transitioning him back to kibble he doesn't eat as much as he was on the bland diet. He we eating close to 6 cups a day before the kibble now its more like 3 cups if straight kibble. Is that enough for a puppy? He's drinking water fine and his stool looks fine.
 

Time_1

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I stopped waking up trough the night to take Thor out at around 14-15 weeks.
His last potty before bed is 8:30pm and towards the end I would wake up around 1-2am to take him out till I realized I was actually waking him up too. I would have to carry him to the back door and nudge him out. He'd pee and walk back in groggy still. So I stopped and he's never peed in his crate.
I wake up at 5 am and let him out at around 5:30 - 5:40 by the time I'm ready and go downstairs.
But for the first 2 weeks I would take him out every 2 hours. Week 10-12 was every 3 hours and then down to 1 until I stopped.

Big puppy with a big bladder. But every puppy is different. If you have to wake him up to take him out, then you can increase the time between potty breaks.

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Tomorrow will be his first day since we got him that he will be in his crate for 4 or so hours straight. Ill be coming home on my lunch to check on him. We will see what happens
 

Al and Julie

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bland diet i assume is rice meat ect..human food has alot of water if you were to dehydrate the ingredients the amount would be alot less. kibble is all dehydrated so you don't need as much. He will not let himself starve. My cc Xena is 20 months and has 2.5 cups 2x a day. just to give you an idea. Thor masstiff mix 16 months has 3 cups 2x day.

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Time_1

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bland diet i assume is rice meat ect..human food has alot of water if you were to dehydrate the ingredients the amount would be alot less. kibble is all dehydrated so you don't need as much. He will not let himself starve. My cc Xena is 20 months and has 2.5 cups 2x a day. just to give you an idea. Thor masstiff mix 16 months has 3 cups 2x day.

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We were giving him white rice and boiled chicken and he loved it. But not that hes on straight kibble hes gotten a lil picky lol. He will eat about 3 cups total a day of that. Im not real worried about it because i know he wont let himself starve.

Today is his first day at home by himself in his kennel. Hopefully I dont go home to a mess in it when I go check on him at lunch
 

Ash1985

Active Member
Catching him in the act is crucial. Scolding after the fact when you see it is something they just don't understand. While he is still young enough to scoop up and take outside in the middle of peeing or pooping is the only way he will associate the accident needing to be finished outside. While scooping him up a good loud startling NO! outside! Should help too then praise when he finishes his biz outside.
 

cayeesmom

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Today is his first day at home by himself in his kennel. Hopefully I dont go home to a mess in it when I go check on him at lunch[/QUOTE]

So how did he do today? good I hope.
 

Time_1

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Today is his first day at home by himself in his kennel. Hopefully I dont go home to a mess in it when I go check on him at lunch

So how did he do today? good I hope.[/QUOTE]

He did great! Came home about noon and there was no mess. Let him outside to do his business and play while I ate lunch. Back in his crate after a half hour until I got home at 530 and there was zero mess again. He's also getting better about getting in his crate for us to.
 

floulou

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This timing may sound difficult, but my boy responded very well to being caught on the act. If he was out of the crate and started peeing, I'd immediately cut him off midstream and run him outside, using a guilty tone the whole time and would stay outside until he would go again. That happened 2 or 3 times and that was the end of it. I started crate training him a month ago and he's already fully house broken. The other key is bringing him outside immediately after letting him out of the crate, but I'm guessing you already do that.

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Time_1

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House breaking is getting a LOT better for this lil guy. He will now go sit by the door and make some noise to be let out when hes inside (most of the time).