Crate training help?!?!?!?!

[Time_1]

So we have a 13 week old pup that isnt taking to his crate and potty training. He wont get in his crate willingly and will whine for a lil while once hes in there. We usually only put him in there when we leave or cant keep an eye on him while in the house. The crate has a divider and he has about a third of it with a blanket and toys. Some nights ill take him outside to go potty and he will do both and usually sleep thru the night but sometimes he wont. My wife left him in there yesterday afternoon for a couple hours while grocery shopping and came home to a mess with pee and poop.

We think we are doing everything right by taking him to the door and saying "outside" and then taking him to the grass and saying "potty potty potty" and when hes done he gets praise. Sometimes he will come back in the house and 30 minutes later pee on the carpet. I just dont get it.

Im trying not to hit him in anyway when he does it or rub his nose in it when he does it but its getting VERY frustrating.

What can we do to speed up this process? We are in dire need of some help. Our last dogs (pits) were not this hard to get potty trained but we did it differently with them (rubbing nose in it when done in the house, etc)

Help? Tips?

Thanks

 

[season]

Solo is almost 6 months old. I got him right before Xmas. Originally I got him a wire kennel with a divider etc and I came home to many messes. It was very frustrating, especially since he was showing me that he could go outside and do his business and he was able to hold it throughout the night and while I was at home. Add to the fact that I had a boxer for 11 years (RIP) that barely took any effort at all to crate train, which only added to my frustration. So what I did was simply stuck with it. I tried leaving him the kitchen (contained) which worked for a bit because it gave him some space but he was able to finally jump over the doggy door. At that time I went and got a different crate. The hard plastic/airline type and that really made a difference. Not exactly sure why but it works better than the wire one. Also I started to feed him in his crate (something I never did with my boxer but I was willing to listen to and try suggestions. I got Solo a 42" crate. He made one mess in there and that was my fault because when I came to let him out during lunch I didn't wait for him to poop.
All that said....keep your dog on a good feeding sched. I feed Solo twice a day. He poops twice before I leave for school. Once at 430a (I'm a early riser) right when we wake up and again at about 7a before I leave. I come home to let him out at about 1030. He poops and pees and stays in his crate until 230 when I come to let him out. He usually doesn't poop then but pees and gets back in his crate until I'm home for good at 4. At the 230 time I come home I usually give him a bone that I get from the butcher to chew on for that last hour. I only give him the bone when he's in his crate and I'm gone...I immediately take it away when I come home. Just get in a routine and be ready to weather the storm.....it will get better but don't compare dogs....I got into that bad habit and realized quick that it wasn't fair to me or the dog.

 

[season]

I forgot to mention that I feed Solo at 5a like clockwork. Two hours later, like clockwork, he poops.

 

[Time_1]

I forgot to mention that I feed Solo at 5a like clockwork. Two hours later, like clockwork, he poops.

We are feeding him on a pretty good schedule that works for our routine. Once in the AM and at night when we eat dinner.

We are now trying to give treats and praise outside when he goes potty to see if that helps.

Just very frustrated right now with it...

 

[cinnamon roll]

Do you have his crate w blankets toys etc in there?

 

[Time_1]

Do you have his crate w blankets toys etc in there?

Oh ya all that stuff. Its comfy in there for him for sure. But I feel like if I close it off some more that he will be uncomfortable but im gonna try to make it a lil smaller. The only thing I havent tried to do is give him something to chew on like a pig ear or bone when he goes in there.

I just found a good article by the ASPCA about crate training in a weekend. I think we are gonna give it a shot and see if we can get him to love his crate.

 

[God of Peace]

I
am really hoping our new Dogue is like our last dog when it came to crate training and such. He was so easy and his entire life as soon as he finished his food he immediately went out and went poop. He was like tat as a puppy as well from 7 1/2 weeks old. Feed and outside right away and poop was done.

It is going to be difficult to make sure we do not compare and know we have a different dog. RIP Coal.

 

[Time_1]

I
am really hoping our new Dogue is like our last dog when it came to crate training and such. He was so easy and his entire life as soon as he finished his food he immediately went out and went poop. He was like tat as a puppy as well from 7 1/2 weeks old. Feed and outside right away and poop was done.

It is going to be difficult to make sure we do not compare and know we have a different dog. RIP Coal.

Thats exactly what we are doing, comparing our two other dogs (RIP) that potty trained very quickly in the crate so thats why its frustrating to us.

This pup is giving us a run for our money lol.

 

[Time_1]

So when is a good time to let the pup go outside in the backyard by himself? The fences are secure and theres no way for him to get out unless he really tried.

We also have a 6ftx12ft kennel that I will be putting up this weekend that im thinking about putting him in while we are gone at work since the weather is super nice out now.

 

[cinnamon roll]

what about using a house leash? It helped me a lot in training my dog.

 

[jersey girl]

We have a large fenced backyard, but until she was completely potty trained she was always leashed to do her business. Once she went she got lots of praise and a few treats and I took the leash off. Is the crate kept in the same place in your home...where is it located? He is still young and will have accidents. You may want to restrict water before bedtime. Do you always walk him before you leave him in the crate? I would restrict his access in the home and watch for warning signs like sniffing the floor. Even if he just went 30 minutes prior, he very well may have to go again. I only mention this because you did...but rubbing his nose in it won't help the situation and of course hitting him will only create a distrustful and anxious dog.

 

[season]

It's a personal preference but I don't put any blankets, pillows etc in the crate with Solo. He gets his Kong and like I said, the last hour he is alone I usually give him a frozen bone for him.

 

[Time_1]

what about using a house leash? It helped me a lot in training my dog.

Never really thought about that i guess we could try. We are usually pretty good with keeping an eye on him when he is loose in the house. Hes only had a couple accidents in the house since hes been with us but still...

We have a large fenced backyard, but until she was completely potty trained she was always leashed to do her business. Once she went she got lots of praise and a few treats and I took the leash off. Is the crate kept in the same place in your home...where is it located? He is still young and will have accidents. You may want to restrict water before bedtime. Do you always walk him before you leave him in the crate? I would restrict his access in the home and watch for warning signs like sniffing the floor. Even if he just went 30 minutes prior, he very well may have to go again. I only mention this because you did...but rubbing his nose in it won't help the situation and of course hitting him will only create a distrustful and anxious dog.

So i should leash him everytime we take him outside to go to potty? The crate isnt moved at all its in our bedroom. Moving it requires us to completely take it down and fold it up to move it out of out room so thats where it stays. Like I said hes usually only in it at night when we go to sleep or when we are not home. I restricted his water last night and he didnt have a pee accident just a poop one.

 

[Time_1]

It's a personal preference but I don't put any blankets, pillows etc in the crate with Solo. He gets his Kong and like I said, the last hour he is alone I usually give him a frozen bone for him.

Ive been thinking about taking the blanket out of it also. Im tired of doing the laundry everytime he poops or pees on it. I think I need to go get a kong and stick some peanut butter in it for when we put him in there.

 

[cinnamon roll]

When potty training I get my pup on a leash until she was done with her business, and only then did I take it off so she could run and play.

 

[Th0r]

Sounds like you have a big crate. Have you tried covering it so it's dark and thus making it feel smaller?
If it feels more den like, he may not soil it!
Just an idea.

Sent from my Nexus 5

 

[Time_1]

Sounds like you have a big crate. Have you tried covering it so it's dark and thus making it feel smaller?
If it feels more den like, he may not soil it!
Just an idea.

Sent from my Nexus 5

It is big. Its the second to largest one. I was thinking about covering it also.

 

[whit72]

I have a seven month old Corso she i's crate trained and house broken. Never really had a problem with her. Had some nightmares with past dogs. I simply give her a treat, not a training treat something with high value like chicken nugget or cheese stick, when we started crate training her. Now I just have to go in the freezer and she goes right in her crate. We weaning off the crate now and she's doing well. I would suggest give her something high value after she goes outside to the bathroom and when she lays in her crate leave it open and if she just strays in there give her the high value treat. They catch on quick, she's young so she probably still hesitant.

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[jersey girl]

Never really thought about that i guess we could try. We are usually pretty good with keeping an eye on him when he is loose in the house. Hes only had a couple accidents in the house since hes been with us but still...



So i should leash him everytime we take him outside to go to potty? The crate isnt moved at all its in our bedroom. Moving it requires us to completely take it down and fold it up to move it out of out room so thats where it stays. Like I said hes usually only in it at night when we go to sleep or when we are not home. I restricted his water last night and he didnt have a pee accident just a poop one.

Yes, I would leash him everytime he goes to potty for two reasons....one you can immediately praise and treat him and it ensures you see him do his business. I think the crate is fine in your bedroom, I only asked in case he was sleeping in another room away from you. What time does he eat dinner and what time do you take him out for his final potty break?

 

[cayeesmom]

I did the same thing with Luke. Always on a leash while potty training although the backyard is fenced in. No running or playing. When he was done doing his business we went back inside, leash off and then we could go back out to play. Always "separated" potty time/on leash and playtime/off leash, don't know why but have done the same thing with all my dogs and always had good luck with it. Luke was a breeze to potty train. And I was lucky never had to get up in the middle of the night to let him out. He slept from 11pm to 5am pretty much from day one as young as he was.