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cayeesmom

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I feel for you, that is a very tough situation.
What will/can animal control do to him ? Here [ don't know if it is different from state to state, county to county] , even though you can show proof of Rabies vacc it is 10 days quarantine at your cost!
 

rdryan

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I am not sure what they can do here. I thought as long as you had proof of updated rabies that the quarantine isn't needed but I will have to go digging and find out.
 

ruthcatrin

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That sucks. And he was doing really well too.

I think a muzzle may be in order anytime anyone other than you is around :/ At least till you can have some words with the behaviorist.
 

musicdeb

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I'm so sorry to hear this happened. Xerxes is very fortunate to have found you and you have worked diligently to make sure he was ok.

Please keep us posted on what happens with Xerxes. I'm sorry about your mom and I hope she's ok.

Sounds like Xerxes needs special attention to his behavioral issues. Growling should always be paid attention to because it's a warning from the pup.

Again, I'm so sorry. My heart breaks for you and for Xerxes....
 

rdryan

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Unfortunately he growls only seconds before he strikes.... not much warning to work with. :(
 

NYDDB

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rdryan, if it is something genetic (not sure how to figure this out, definitively, although you said the same behavior was present in one parent)---then you really have nothing to feel bad about at all. There really could be a neurological basis behind this "switch" that gets turned on and off in his brain.

Hey, even if it IS purely behavioral, there is no reason to beat yourself up; you have done so much for him, and have handled his issues so well-- he has improved under your care.

I can understand your stress, though...this just sucks.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for you and Xerxes.
 

Mamacast

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Please let us know what the behaviorist thinks, this has got to be so disappointing. It is so frustrating to have people breeding dogs who shouldn't be.
 

CeeCee

Well-Known Member
If you haven't already started, I agree 100% muzzle him. You will be amazed at how your stress levels will go down and then you will be able really watch him and see his triggers. You might even get the the point where you don't need to see anything, you can feel his tension start to rise and will be able to redirect him, keep him under his thresholds, and teach him better coping skills.

Please let us know how it goes.
 

rdryan

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rdryan, if it is something genetic (not sure how to figure this out, definitively, although you said the same behavior was present in one parent)---then you really have nothing to feel bad about at all. There really could be a neurological basis behind this "switch" that gets turned on and off in his brain.

Hey, even if it IS purely behavioral, there is no reason to beat yourself up; you have done so much for him, and have handled his issues so well-- he has improved under your care.

I can understand your stress, though...this just sucks.

Hoping for the best possible outcome for you and Xerxes.

I feel bad regardless of the cause. My intention was to give this guy a loving, stable forever home but not sure if I am the right person for the job now. This house is so busy with people coming and going and he has decided that only immediate family are acceptable. So he will be stuck in a gated room for a lot of his time. He even went backwards with my son tonight. All the work on that and it seems it is undone. Granted, he had a stressful day with the bite this morning and then my tension and emotions all day but wow.

Hopefully the trainer calls me tomorrow and we get the assessment done right away. Not sure how much longer my nerves can handle all this unpredictability. Never did drink me some wine. I should have done that. :p
 

rdryan

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He had blood work done in September after the first bite. They specifically checked the thyroid among other things and he got a clean bill of health.
 

thelady_v2010

Well-Known Member
I am so sorry to hear this. What happened when AC came out?


Please do not beat yourself up about this. You are doing the best you can with the information you were given.
 

rdryan

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AC looked over his records, made a face when they heard him go nuts in the bedroom and handed me a copy of our provincial dog by laws with the section on dangerous dogs highlighted.
 

rdryan

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Coming on Monday to assess him. We talked for some time. He asked a ton of questions and told me to keep him either muzzled or in my room as I had been to keep everyone safe. It sucks because it is not often there isn't someone other than us in the house.

The guy who delivers our fliers got quite the scare today. He's an older man and Xerxes has always barked at him through the window but today he launched himself at the window snarling and snapping. The poor old guy threw the fliers and ran down the driveway.

I tracked down a few of his litter mates' owners and of the three I contacted, two behave typically but one, a female, they are having the same trouble with. She's bit several family members and close friends and sounds like it was similar circumstances. Fine one second and not the next with no obvious explanation. They were told that the chances of training it out of her weren't good, that it was bad breeding and an unsound temperament. Who told them that, I am not sure but didn't make me feel good. :(

We'll see what Monday brings and in the meantime I will just keep him away from everyone so I don't end up being left with no options if he bites again. Our by laws here are harsh and Animal Control has been here once due to the hospital having to report mom's bite. According to our by laws, they could have seized him then if they wanted to but they didn't.

Is there really a time when training can't help????
 

ruthcatrin

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yah

Have you had him vet checkd? I vaugely recall asking y ou that before. But I'm thinking thyroid and kidney/liver bloodwork.....
 

rdryan

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yah

Have you had him vet checkd? I vaugely recall asking y ou that before. But I'm thinking thyroid and kidney/liver bloodwork.....

That was all done in May right before we got him and again in September by my vet after the first bite. And medically there is nothing.
 
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ruthcatrin

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'k

Yes, there are dogs for whome nothing seems to work. Is it possible that the right technique or trainer just wasn't found? yes....but there IS a genetic compenant to it, and there are times when it just can't be over ridden.