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raechiemay

Well-Known Member
I don't know about this but his nose seems a little on the long side & could be just the way he's standing but does his back end look lower than his shoulders?
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
I don't know about this but his nose seems a little on the long side & could be just the way he's standing but does his back end look lower than his shoulders?

it looks lower to me. I just wanted to see what your thoughts were, I am in a disagreement with someone lol.

I think it looks a tab bit Fila-ish.
 

dogman#1

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hey, you stated it looks like a Fila to you and the ad says he is very protective...as others have stated..."if it acts and looks like a Fila then it must be a Fila".

I'm only joking. ofcourse that argument is insane but no, this doesnt look like a CC or a Fila to me but I am not well versed on the CC breed. BTW that rear end looks very bad.
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
hey, you stated it looks like a Fila to you and the ad says he is very protective...as others have stated..."if it acts and looks like a Fila then it must be a Fila".

I'm only joking. ofcourse that argument is insane but no, this doesnt look like a CC or a Fila to me but I am not well versed on the CC breed. BTW that rear end looks very bad.

haha, I definitely dont think it looks like a Fila, I dont think it looks like anything pure bred, I was just thinking of something that they could mix with a CC that would increase the size and give it a little longer muzzle, and I thought of a Fila. I was just making guesses considering the dog is not papered and the person has no idea about the parents, yet they are certain its a CC?? ha anyways, this girl is adamant that it looks exactly like a CC, and her argument is that she has seen many CC like this one. I wonder if it crossed her mind that those other dogs weren't really CC's either.
 

grazefull1

Well-Known Member
so here the problem his head is kinda funny so is his back n his rear i know my cc is chunky but he is more balance than this dog he has the tadpole look lol oh ya his dog doesnt look much bigger than mines n mines is 25in 116lbs lol
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jcook

Well-Known Member
So they said "what about too short of a nose? I would argue a long nose corso is probably more "purebred" than a short nose corso"

can a dog be "more purebred"??
 

grazefull1

Well-Known Member
So they said "what about too short of a nose? I would argue a long nose corso is probably more "purebred" than a short nose corso"

can a dog be "more purebred"??
well i cant say if a dog can be more pure lol i can only say the closer they r to the standard the better n this dog doesnt fit that lol

General Appearance
Ancient Italian breed medium-large size Molossus Dog. Sturdy, with a strong skeleton. Muscular and athletic, it moves with considerable ease and elegance. It has always been a property watchdog and hunter of difficult game such as the wild boar.
Size, Proportion, Substance
A muscular, balanced, large-boned dog, rectangular in proportion. The length of the dog, measured from the point of the shoulder to the point of buttock is approximately 10% greater than the height of the dog measured from the highest point of the shoulder to the ground.
Height: Dogs: 25 to 27.5 inches; bitches: 23.5 to 26 inches.
Weight: Proportionate to height.


Head
Molossus, large, its total length reaches approximately one third of the height at the withers. Planes of the skull and muzzle are slightly convergent; they are not parallel. The circumference of the head measured at the cheekbones is more than twice the total length of the head; skin is firm and smooth. Skull: Viewed from the front, skull is wide and slightly curved; width is equal to the length. From the side, a prominent arch begins above the eyes and then flattens backward toward the occiput. Viewed from the top, it has a square appearance due to the zygomatic arches and powerful muscles swathing it. Stop: Well-defined due to developed and bulging frontal sinuses and prominent arch above the eyes.
Expression: Very alert and attentive. Some wrinkling on forehead occurs when alert.

Eyes: Medium-size, almond-shaped, not round or bulging, tight fitting rims preferred with only a minimal amount of haw being visible.
Eye Color: Dogs with black muzzles (coat colors of black, fawn or red, and these colors brindled) dark brown eyes are preferred. Gray muzzles (coat colors of gray, fawn or red and these colors brindled), lighter shades are approved. Pigmentation of the eye rims is complete, pigmentation of eye rim matches pigment color of dog.
Disqualification: Yellow bird of prey; blue eyes.
Ears: Set well above the cheekbones. May be cropped or uncropped. If cropped, it is in an equilateral triangle. If uncropped, they are medium size, triangular in shape, held tight to the cheeks, and not extending beyond the jaw bone.
Nose: Large with well-opened nostrils, pigment color to match pigment color of the dog. Dogs with black pigment have black noses; gray pigmented dogs have gray noses; pigmentation is complete. The nose is an extension of the topline of the muzzle and does not protrude beyond nor recede behind the front plane of the muzzle.
Muzzle: Very broad and deep, width is almost equal to its length, which reaches approximately one third of the total length of the head; the depth of muzzle is more then 50% of the length of the muzzle.

The top and bottom muzzle plains are parallel, and the nose and chin form a perpendicular line. Viewed from the front, the anterior face should look flat and form a trapezoid, wider at the bottom. Muzzle is not overly narrow or snipey.
Lips: Rather firm. Upper lips moderately hanging, they join under the nostrils to form an inverted "U." Pigmentation matches color pigment of dog. Dogs with black pigment have black lips; gray pigmented dogs have gray lips.
Bite: Slightly undershot (no more than ¼ inch) and level preferred. Scissor bite is acceptable, if parameters of the head and muzzle are correct. Dentition is complete. Incisors are in a straight line. No more than two missing teeth.

Disqualification: More than two missing teeth; wry mouth. Undershot more than 1/4 inch.

Neck, Topline, Body
Neck: Slightly arched, flowing smoothly into the shoulders with a small amount of dewlap. The length of the neck is approximately one third the height at the withers.
Body: Depth of the ribcage is equal to half the total height of the dog, descending slightly below the elbow. Ribs are long and well sprung. Moderate tuck up.
Chest: Broad, well-muscled, strong forefront.
Back: Wide, strong, muscular. Highest part of shoulder blade slightly rising above the strong, level back.
Loin: Well-muscled, and harmoniously joined to the back.
Croup: Long, wide, slightly sloping. Rump should be quite round due to muscling.
Tail: Tail set is an extension of the backline. It is thick at the root with not much tapering at the tip. When not in action, carried low, otherwise horizontal or slightly higher than back, not to be carried in a vertical position. It is docked at the fourth vertebrae. In the case of natural tails, the tip reaches the hock but not below. Carried low, it is neither broken nor kinked but supple. Hanging when the dog is in repose; generally carried level with the back or slightly above the level of the back when the dog is in action, without curving over the back or being curled.
Disqualification: A natural tail that is atrophied or a natural tail that is knotted and laterally deviated or twisted.

Forequarters
Strong and muscular, well-proportioned to the size of the dog. Straight when viewed from the front or side; height of the limb at the elbow is equal to 50% of the height at the withers.
Shoulders: Muscular, laid back.
Upper arms: Strongly muscled, with good bone, powerful.
Elbows: Held parallel to the ribcage, turning neither in nor out.
Forelegs: Straight and with good bone, well muscled.
Pasterns: Almost straight, strong but flexible.
Feet: Round with well-arched toes (catlike). Lean, hard, dark pads and nails, except in the case of white toes. Front dewclaws: Can remain or be removed, if left intact should only be a single dewclaw on each leg.
Hindquarters
As a whole, they are powerful and strong, in harmony with the forequarters. Straight when viewed from the rear or front.
Thighs: Long, wide, angulated and well-muscled.
Stifle: Should be moderately angulated, strong.
Legs: Strong bone and muscle structure.
Hocks: Wide set, thick and clean, let down and parallel when viewed from behind. Rear pastern: straight and parallel.
Rear dewclaws: Any rear dewclaws are removed.
Hind feet: Slightly more oval-shaped and less-arched toes.
Coat
The coat is short, stiff, shiny, adherent and dense with a light undercoat that becomes thicker in cold weather.
Color
Acceptable colors are black, lighter and darker shades of gray, lighter and darker shades of fawn, and red. Brindling is allowed on all of these colors. Solid fawn and red, including lighter and darker shades, have a black or gray mask. The mask does not go beyond the eyes. There may be a white patch on the chest, throat, chin, backs of the pasterns, and on the toes.
Disqualification: Any color with tan pattern markings as seen in black-and-tan breeds.
Gait
The movement is free flowing and powerful, yet effortless, with strong reach and drive. As the dog accelerates, the feet converge toward a center line of gravity in a near-single track. When viewed from the side, the topline remains level, with minimal roll or bounce.
Temperament
The Cane Corso as a protector of his property and owners is unequaled. Intelligent, he is easily trained. Noble, majestic and powerful his, presence is impressive. He is docile and affectionate to his owner, loving with children and family.
Summary
The overall conformation of the dog should be well-balanced and proportionate. The foregoing description is that of the ideal Cane Corso; any deviation from the above described dog is penalized to the extent of the deviation.
Disqualifications
Yellow bird of prey; blue eyes.
More than two missing teeth; wry mouth.
Undershot more than ¼ inch.
Any color with tan pattern markings as seen in black-and-tan breeds.
A natural tail that is atrophied or a natural tail that is knotted and laterally deviated or twisted.
 
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jersey girl

Well-Known Member
I have seen Corso's with a long face...I don't care for the look myself. He doesn't look 170lbs for sure. Hopefully Cody or Mary will chime in, they have a better eye.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
They seem to believe he is and for someone that might be a Cane Corso but not for me thank you.

I am sure that the owner has seen lots out there like him because there is lots of crap being bred, so it isn't suprising that she probably has no idea what one actually looks like.
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
okay, so here is another question.

They are saying the dog is pure, just poorly bred....

Where do we draw the line?

they are also saying we need to open up the gene pool. what exactly do they mean by this? bring in other breeds??
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
okay, so here is another question.

They are saying the dog is pure, just poorly bred....

Where do we draw the line?

they are also saying we need to open up the gene pool. what exactly do they mean by this? bring in other breeds??
Lol, I saw the thread. There is no point. Without papers it is NOT considered a purebred BY LAW. At least in Canada and selling as such can result in fines of up to 50,000 I believe. I wouldn't say it is a purebred, mind you I say that about half the purebreds as well. The 2 you were arguing with on that page, really a dream team combination of the blind leading the blind, are not worth the effort. For me personally all I have to do is look at websites, look at dogs and there are my answers ;) Also as a side note, that dogs is also too short in the body. Not many CC characteristics except color...
 

jcook

Well-Known Member
I just wonder to what extent we can say something was poorly bred, but still purebred? If it looks nothing like a CC can it really just be a result of poor breeding of two 'pure' CC's and should we breed those poor representations of the breed because they are ultimately "purebred"?

and I got so lost in that thread... all i was saying is that we shouldnt call the dog a CC because (1) no papers (2) it doesnt look like one
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
No, if it doesn't have papers and doesn't look like a CC it is NOT a CC. Period. The thread was driving me batty, I had to stop myself from posting last night as I was getting angry with the stupidity, lol. I waited until after work today.