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Help! Problem with my mastiff

angelbears

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I do "curse"! When I see someone repeatedly being asshole I'm going to call them on it. Telling people that they are lazy or stupid for hiring a trainer, no matter how you put it, is being an asshole.

I'm not the only one that finds your condescending attitude overbearing. Granted there are times that people could benefit from your snarky, pompous way. However, treating a newbie and some very solid, wonderful members as if they are asinine idiots is not going to fly. I will continue to call you out when you do it or until I get banned. I, too am confident! So much so I don't have to make any one feel inferior to feel good about myself.
 

season

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Nice try. I've never called anyone stupid or lazy. You have the right to your opinion or can continue to go at me personally and call me names. Whatever makes u feel better. That's a you problem. You should take other's advice and just ignore me. Once again, your feelings and how you choose to deal with them is your responsibility. I'm not in charge of you. Feel free to PM if you want to continue. Your comments about me don't affect me one bit. I'll continue to offer my advice and opinions.


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Smokeycat

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It's not rocket science.

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This is the line that effectively calls someone an idiot or stupid. The phrase means that it should be easily understood and if someone can't they must not be smart enough. That may not be what you meant but it's what you are saying. There is nothing wrong with saying what you think but remember without vocal tone inflections things become black and white and what is said may no longer be what you meant.
 

cj-sharpy

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OP - hire a trainer.
As said a good trainer is not there to teach your dog to sit, they are there to teach YOU to teach your dog to sit.
Trust me I've been in your situation, I considered having my boy PTS he was so bad.
But I found a good trainer who gave me the tools I needed to help him. Not my first dog, but my first mastiff.

I will repeat one of seasons lines here "it's not rocket science". By that I do not mean to imply you're an idiot in any way shape or form. What I mean by that is that a lot of people will over think a problem.
I'd concentrate less on thinking "why does he do that" or "why won't he walk for me" or what ever the problem may be. Take a step back, breath, and approach the situation again with confidence that he WILL do what you want because YOU say so.

I hope you find the solution that works for you.
And keep asking questions. Nobody knows everything and the only way we learn is to seek out answers.


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season

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Yes, it's not rocket science. Meaning, it's not hard. If ppl want to take it as "that jerk called me an idiot!" that's on them...simple as that....it's not rocket science


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Smokeycat

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Yes, it's not rocket science. Meaning, it's not hard. If ppl want to take it as "that jerk called me an idiot!" that's on them...simple as that....it's not rocket science


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Ah...I get it, you're a shit disturber. I guess every groups got have at least one that deliberately refuses to get along.
 

season

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Ah...I get it, you're a shit disturber. I guess every groups got have at least one that deliberately refuses to get along.

I suggest you ignore me. Which seems to be hard for you. I voice my opinion and give my advice. Simple as that. If you don't like what I have to say simply move along and ignore it. No one is making you reply to every comment I make. That's your choice. I'm not going anywhere so it's probably in your best interest to pretend I'm not here and don't even read my comments. It's not worth your energy.
I don't swear. I don't personally attack. I don't make things personal/emotional. You can call me any name in the book. It doesn't matter to me.


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season

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DennasMom

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OK OK OK... Bad to the OP's Question...

I read something else, entirely!!

I read... human sat down... looked at dog from across the couch... dog was startled and ran to attack the "stranger" in the room - when said "Stranger" turned out to be her human, she did as she was told and left the room to her "safe place" in the bedroom... where she waited for an invitation to return to the living room.

Since then, the human has been afraid and upset, and the dog has been reluctant to interact with the scared human.

I did not hear anywhere that the dog attacked the human.

I think the dog may have been startled out of a dream or some other state, and did not at first recognize the human... since then, the human has been different (afraid, upset and untrusting), and so things have not returned to normal.

I think Mastiffcouple needs to relax, take a breath, and really assess the dog's actions - was there actual aggression with intent then?? how about now?? Dogs let go of past events and live in the now.
Can you follow that example and forget about that one episode - consider that you startled her out of a bad dream, and it took her a bit to shake it off and realize where she was, and move on.

If you can go back to being the calm, gentle leader she knows and loves, hopefully you can bring her back around to being the snuggle buddy you had just a few days ago.

Make a plan for what you would do if she lunges for you again - or, just do what you did before, since that worked perfectly fine to send her out of the room.
Remember that she DID do as you asked then, and did NOT cause any harm.

Challenge her to interact with you with toys (tug games, fetch, flirt pole) and get back in sync with each other... then all will be well... assuming I'm not missing something else entirely.
 

teodora

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my 2 cents: I own a Corso. CC is an "easy" dog compared to your dog. He still can scare the hell out of people (including family) when the poor pup just wants to play. Are you sure, 100% sure, that it was aggression towards you? Or you perceived it as aggression because he LOOKS and SOUNDS scary? The dog understood that you're scared and backed down, nothing wrong with this.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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Thanks for getting the post back on topic. Let's keep it civil, we have various levels of experience to draw from. If you have given advise in the past and thus feels redundant than simply don't post. Just because it might be a topic that we have dealt with dies not mean the OP has.


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karennj

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A good trainer is critical in a situation like this. You are unsure of your dog and the interactions that are occurring. It appears you don't trust each other. You can watch a thousand videos and read all the recommended books but nothing is better than having someone who knows what they are doing in your home watching your interactions. A good trainer will see things your not. They can watch the body language of you and the dog. They will be able to break down the issues and give you a plan to make things better. My trainer totally trained me not the dog. She identified the issues and she gave me a plan that I followed to a T. It is totally worth the money and effort to have someone with experience in the home. Yes there are a lot of great free training materials out there. The problem is that there is too much information and some of it is really bad advice. If you decide to go that route at least request recommendations so your not wasting hours weeding through thousands of videos trying to find the answers.
 

twood71

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Regardless of breed, a dog will have it's own personality. This you must learn to adjust to.

Between my 2 EM boys, not all same approaches work on each of them.

I have one who is a cautious dog, some would consider him hostile or a bad temperment-which is far from it.

I have one who is a free spirited dog, again some would consider him not trained or untrainable.

They both in their way will protect. The cautious dog has been startled many times by me. I have had him go off on me when I wore a hat. I have had him go off when I came out of a unsuspected bathroom he thought was clear. Never an attack just barking and jumping back away from me.

The high spirited dog has never went off, and he is the one I would really worry about if he ever did. I would expect him to lunge at you, he's that confident of himself.

know your dog, learn your bread and hopefully you can find good help (which people call them trainers, I call help)
 

tmricciuto

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Twood71 - our dogs must be kindred spirits. I have littermates (5 months old) and one is very catious and the other is very confident and independent. The catious one will sit in your lap and love you but wants to be very near you and is slow to become comfortable in new situations/interactions/you name it. The other will run into danger to see what it's about, and velcro would not describe her at all.
 

Hector

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Regardless of breed, a dog will have it's own personality. This you must learn to adjust to.

Between my 2 EM boys, not all same approaches work on each of them.

I have one who is a cautious dog, some would consider him hostile or a bad temperment-which is far from it.

I have one who is a free spirited dog, again some would consider him not trained or untrainable.

They both in their way will protect. The cautious dog has been startled many times by me. I have had him go off on me when I wore a hat. I have had him go off when I came out of a unsuspected bathroom he thought was clear. Never an attack just barking and jumping back away from me.

The high spirited dog has never went off, and he is the one I would really worry about if he ever did. I would expect him to lunge at you, he's that confident of himself.

know your dog, learn your bread and hopefully you can find good help (which people call them trainers, I call help)

this exactly - experienced it myself
 

twood71

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Twood71 - our dogs must be kindred spirits. I have littermates (5 months old) and one is very catious and the other is very confident and independent. The catious one will sit in your lap and love you but wants to be very near you and is slow to become comfortable in new situations/interactions/you name it. The other will run into danger to see what it's about, and velcro would not describe her at all.

lol yea run into danger, I know!

My High Spirited loves outside. He is the only dog I have ever had that displays happiness so much outside. You can almost see him kick the dirt when I tell him it's time to come in and he mopes all the way to the door, it's comical but aggravating to wait for him.

My cautious boy, will hesitate to go thru doors and if he comes from outside when it has been raining and his feet are wet, he will freeze on the kitchen floor, as if to tell us all "NOBODY MOVE, SOMETHING IS DIFFERENT HERE"!!

They both have their pro's and con's if thats what you would call them, but wouldn't trade'em for anything.
 

tmricciuto

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My girls love it outside also, in the morning. They both love to bask in the sun. My cautious girl isn't quite that cautious but she is less likely to see what's going on up close.


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PrinceLorde13

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my 2 cents: I own a Corso. CC is an "easy" dog compared to your dog.

I know I'm late to this party, and it seems the OP never came back, no idea why (sarcasm), but I gotta know what you mean by this comment, if we were talking about a Fila I could understand but what about a Spanish makes a corso "easy" in comparison?

And even though I'm sure they found another forum or probably at the least are no longer reading this ill still try. It sounds to me like Dennasmom was on the right track, the dog was startled, which scared you, creating a tension between you guys that continued to grow as you both became increasingly uncomfortable around each other. My male has been sound asleep and someone will walk down the stairs and he will pop up growling at them, even looking right at them like he has no idea who they are, I snap or tell him no it stops and once he wakes a bit right back to tail waggin normal. I also feel a trainer would be very beneficial here. A trainer is a tool just like a prong collar, they cost money and can be very effective when used in the right way, you can't just rely on it but use it to help you in getting you and your dog where you want to be.
 

teodora

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It was "easy", not easy. :)
Spanish mastiffs - and I've only been around 2 of them, owned by someone else - can look and sound scary. Probably scarier than my Corso boy. In the context, my post was about the looks and deep bark, not related to the temperament (even if I didn't have any difficulties with my CC, he's a velcro dog eager to please, I don't underestimate his potential).