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Favorite Corso out there?

Kimba

Active Member
Mary, I'm a little biased too! :) Fifty is the sire of my soon to be new puppy! I think he is just gorgeous and love what I have learned about his temperament!
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

Super Moderator
Staff member
fifty ate through a box in my van with my wheel bearing in it, had to take it to the dealership and have my father make sure he didn't eat anything I needed.
 

Kimba

Active Member
LOL Oh boy!! Hopefully his son doesn't like to chew as much!! I've already been stocking up on toys...good thing! :)
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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LOL! Zoe told me he didn't need a crate, would just chill while we ate... yup just chilled. He also hogged all the room in the back when driving but despite it all he is a good boy
 

Morally

Member
I lean toward heavier dogs like Zar Del Rosso Malpelo and his sire Conan, Broker Guardiana and his sire Dragon who is also by Conan.
 

E1kpo

Well-Known Member
I want to know how is this dog zar8.jpg regarded as one of the most important and rappresentative dog of ever for the breed. Something is wrong out here,he is ugly , anachronistic and a page to be forgotten for the breed.Like that breeder Guardiana he breeds dogs with a shorter muzzle than a d.d.b. and i remember that the rateo head-muzzle should be of 3,6/10.Standard talking.But well they sell pups for 3000$ and I'm a private,so ahahahahh
 

Morally

Member
I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread that Boxer was added to certain Corso lines. Can anyone cite their sources of that information for the sake of research? E1kpo I don't remember ever hearing that Zar is regarded as one of the most important or influential dogs in the breed. I'll go on to say that I don't feel the need to justify why I prefer that type of dog myself but I do think they fill a niche, just perhaps not yours.
 
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BlackShadowCaneCorso

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Good luck with any cited sources, there are however lots of rumors and behind the hands chatter. What part you believe depends on who's kool-aid you want to drink. Without being there for sure no one knows what was added where but there are those that always swear they have pure lines or know someone that does. At this point the reality is we get to deal with what is right in front of our own eyes and move forward from there.


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anw6943

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I definitely love forehorse's Dorian, always been a fan of Franklin as well. I don't know that I could choose just one, I just love Corso's period. I've also always liked about times dogs. I think Vedi's dad is pretty handsome as well, he is "Cherub's Judge".
 

E1kpo

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I saw it mentioned earlier in the thread that Boxer was added to certain Corso lines. Can anyone cite their sources of that information for the sake of research? E1kpo I don't remember ever hearing that Zar is regarded as one of the most important or influential dogs in the breed. I'll go on to say that I don't feel the need to justify why I prefer that type of dog myself but I do think they fill a niche, just perhaps not yours.
You have eyes I think. Just talk with people , not those that want to sell you pups but with people that made history of the breed. I talked with people that made the ''recover'' of the breed , and as said many times already they used the Boxer to fasten the process of creating a type for a breed that wasn't a proper ''selling item'' let's say like this. By the way I didn't say you said that Zar is the most important specimen,I just gave my opinion about those dogs that you posted. In USA people don't know cane corso now think 20 years ago,just watch the differences between the It. Ch. of first 90' and then the 00' dogs. I think it's easily visible. And by the way 2nd part: The fill your niche,but not the race one :) Just to be less rude and maybe try to learn from who knows more than you ;)

Good luck with any cited sources, there are however lots of rumors and behind the hands chatter. What part you believe depends on who's kool-aid you want to drink. Without being there for sure no one knows what was added where but there are those that always swear they have pure lines or know someone that does. At this point the reality is we get to deal with what is right in front of our own eyes and move forward from there.


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Here people know the facts..Many people do..Infact,they are mixing those dogs with M.N. , you'll see how many champions will be 60 kg+ with heavier bones and level bite :D
Those who used mastiffs,boxers and everything that they found aren't making money anymore with ''standard corsos" so they are getting more..Rustic.
Remember the words of an Italian guy.You'll see them change :D
 

E1kpo

Well-Known Member
And If you say me again that thing about ''show me the proof blablabla'' i think that the proof is under the eyes of everyone's eyes
We passed from this http://nuke.castellanselmo.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=pit+degli+olmi+4.jpg&tabid=78&mid=1248 older dog
to this : http://www.caniljomaiana.com.br/teste/artigos/cheno.jpg

Ahahahaah you want tangible proofs? Who did this magic trick is the best genetist out there,or they mixed the breed (as was confirmed in a SACC meeting some years ago)

People.. Humbleness first
 

Morally

Member
You have eyes I think. Just talk with people , not those that want to sell you pups but with people that made history of the breed. I talked with people that made the ''recover'' of the breed , and as said many times already they used the Boxer to fasten the process of creating a type for a breed that wasn't a proper ''selling item'' let's say like this. By the way I didn't say you said that Zar is the most important specimen,I just gave my opinion about those dogs that you posted. In USA people don't know cane corso now think 20 years ago,just watch the differences between the It. Ch. of first 90' and then the 00' dogs. I think it's easily visible. And by the way 2nd part: The fill your niche,but not the race one :) Just to be less rude and maybe try to learn from who knows more than you ;)

I do have eyes. That's why I went to the breeder I went to, they didn't come to me to sell me a puppy. I never said that you claimed I said Zar was the most important specimen in the breed. You seemed to be claiming that people, not necessarily me, have said so. I stated that I've never heard that claim made by anyone. Is that clearer? What about the Italian CHs of the 1990s? The CHs from the 1990s looked different than the dogs of the 1940s, and those looked different from the dogs of the 1900s, and so on. Breeds evolve through selective breeding based on the needs and wishes of people. I'm accepting of that so long as the breed remains functional and doesn't go to an extreme of deformity. This is why I've chosen a larger but still reasonably structurally sound, healthy and functional Corso over the modern Mastino or a Bandogge that is genetically less predictable as to what you get. As I said, they may not fill your niche but they do fill mine just as well. I don't think I've been rude to you at all.
 

Morally

Member
Ahahahaah you want tangible proofs?

Yes. I do prefer demonstrable evidence to hearsay. :) You posted a picture of Cheno as proof that Boxers were crossed in to the breed to create that type of dog. As we know, the Boxer of the 1800s strongly resembled many modern Corsi. If they can change as dramatically only through selective breeding, then the Corso can surely do the same?
 

E1kpo

Well-Known Member
Yes. I do prefer demonstrable evidence to hearsay. :) You posted a picture of Cheno as proof that Boxers were crossed in to the breed to create that type of dog. As we know, the Boxer of the 1800s strongly resembled many modern Corsi. If they can change as dramatically only through selective breeding, then the Corso can surely do the same?
You said it yourself 1800,I'm talking about changes made in a generation,not one hundred years :D
Boxer came from the anglo-saxon dog the bullenbeisser that was 500 years old..C.C.'s ancestors are 2 thousands years old :D And by the way, c.c. never had the underbite because of the needs of people. He had to work,he had to fight he had to kill.Scissor and level were the only bites that the breed had..And by the way,when a dog has 1cm-1,5 cm of underbite.. I think that something is wrong :D
Boxer people may accept that.I don't,my dog has an identity that was and in few cases is still visible :D I don't sell my self and my traditions for money,and like me,many others..Want to play a game? Take a pedigree of a dog that you like..Want to bet that one of his ancestors looks totally opposite to him/her? Ahahahahah dude the breed is "20 years old" , and the standard was changed already 3 times and it will get other changes in these years..I hope in good this times. I suggest you a book if you let me.. The catch and hold dog in Italy,by dr. Breber.. You know things on the breed,you should know this name.
It's completely in english..Good read :D
 

Morally

Member
Since I neither want a catch dog, nor a war dog, that doesn't interest me. There are many dogs of all breeds who resemble neither parent. Genetics are a marvelous thing. I fail to see where not resembling ones parents is proof of any misdoing, and as I've stated, I don't accept anecdotes and hearsay as evidence regardless of the subject matter. That is my position and that is where I'll leave it so as to not derail this thread further.