Do you think ear crop/tail dock will ever be banned?

[ruthcatrin]

Well, in certian breeds the complete removal of the exterior ear iS the standard crop, some Livestock Guardian Breeds for example.

But yah, honestly thats why I'll probly never own a corso, I DO like the way a good crop looks on those dogs, but I can't see myself having it done......

 

[raechiemay]

Ruth I understand that. I was seeing pics of CCs with basically it's entire ear removed. A look to which does not compliment that dog. Even one breeders site I looked at, his whole breeding stock had different crops. None of which I thought looked good at all.

 

[ruthcatrin]

Ruth I understand that. I was seeing pics of CCs with basically it's entire ear removed. A look to which does not compliment that dog. Even one breeders site I looked at, his whole breeding stock had different crops. None of which I thought looked good at all.

Yah, that'd drive me nuts....a good crop makes all the difference.

 

[aceoutdoor]

I say keep as many rights as we can. Otherwise we may end up dis armed of both our guns, and our rights!

They are eroding our rights every day. And gun control, to quote our lovely president "I just want you to know that we are working on it" "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar". Someday there will be breed ban as well. But hey, they know whats best for us.

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[Duetsche_Doggen]

They are eroding our rights every day. And gun control, to quote our lovely president "I just want you to know that we are working on it" "We have to go through a few processes, but under the radar". Someday there will be breed ban as well. But hey, they know whats best for us.

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Ain't that the truth......

I met a dog that was debarked, it made the most clenching sound I ever heard. I never understood that when the got a breed that was vocal.

Seems like anti-rights people are progressing. I looked into doing a crop years ago and just called for pricing which ranged from $500 -$600 some of them weren't even good crops.

 

[bluebutterfly]

My boxer is docked... I personally think the breed doesnt look right without docked tails... and I almost got her cropped... I didnt because my mom made me feel guilty, filling me with horror stories of her doberman's ear cropping gone wrong experience when I was a baby. but that was a long time ago... I have kicked myself ever since the day i cancled her appointment... she has hellicopter ears! if i could go back id crop her in a heartbeat. i look at he all the time and think... she would have been a much nicer looking dog.... I think like i said, as long as it is done by a qualified vet and cared for properly, its the owners choice. It is no different then circomcision...or TATTOOING your pet! same thing... Tatoos hurt after the drugs wear off your pet... I think as long as an owner is committed to caring for them correctly...it should be their choice.

BUT I do not agree with people cropping their dogs ears themselves or docking tails themselves... someone who is qualified needs to do it.

 

[mklamcc]

On the eroding gun rights....that is why my hubby wants to start buying guns now so they can be grandfathered if/when it becomes illegal to buy them.

 

[aceoutdoor]

On the eroding gun rights....that is why my hubby wants to start buying guns now so they can be grandfathered if/when it becomes illegal to buy them.

Better stock up, soon. Especially if you like sporting/tactical arms. There have been so many backround checks in the last week it has been shutting down the FBI check system.

 

[Ben Curtis]

Not a huge fan of the cropping of ears, but I doubt it would ever be illegal. I really don't see a purpose for it, but that could just be my ignorance.

Docking the tails will never be illegal. Have you ever seen a dog break there tail? I have, and it is quite painful, and many dogs have tails that are prone to breaking such as boxers, so it is very humane in comparison to what could happen to the dogs with a full tail.

Fixing dogs I am a fan of. If you are not breeding your dog, then why not. I have always had male dogs, and all have been neutered All I would say have been more like puppies, and less agressive towards other dogs than dogs I have been around that have not been neutered. It's just my theory but I believe there is evidence out there to support what I am saying.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Not a huge fan of the cropping of ears, but I doubt it would ever be illegal. I really don't see a purpose for it, but that could just be my ignorance.

Docking the tails will never be illegal. Have you ever seen a dog break there tail? I have, and it is quite painful, and many dogs have tails that are prone to breaking such as boxers, so it is very humane in comparison to what could happen to the dogs with a full tail.

Fixing dogs I am a fan of. If you are not breeding your dog, then why not. I have always had male dogs, and all have been neutered All I would say have been more like puppies, and less agressive towards other dogs than dogs I have been around that have not been neutered. It's just my theory but I believe there is evidence out there to support what I am saying.

Never say never! We didn't think it would happen here (and I have see the worst of it with broken tails and torn dewclaws while working at the vet's office and neither of those arguments carried any weight with the people passing the laws) and it is illegal to do it and any vet caught doing will lose their license immediately. So now all dogs with dew claws have to keep them or go outside the province to have them removed, same with ears and docking of tails.

 

[CaneCorso]

Better stock up, soon. Especially if you like sporting/tactical arms. There have been so many backround checks in the last week it has been shutting down the FBI check system.

I know that's right! I've already got my "stockpile" and I'm not giving it up for nobody!

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

I need to stockpile....

I agree Mary never say never, it seems like every rights with our dogs are being taking away. I'm just wondering what happeneds if there was world wide ban of cropping/docking. Yet those that stand up for the right are considered "bad people" who only view their pets as "property."

 

[DennasMom]

From what I'm hearing ya'll say, if they outlaw cropping and docking completely, there will a significant black market for these services...

We almost docked our first dog, because he was a rottie mix... glad we didn't though, since he turned out to be more shepherd/pyranees in size and shape. He could sure do some damage with that tail though - he wagged it hard! LOL!

I don't think I'd ever crop ears. I like the big floppy, natural look. Not to say some of the crops here aren't beautiful, just my personal preference.
And, I agree - it's a personal choice and law makers need to butt out.

 

[lukas]

I think that cropping would make sense if you kept your dog for what it was made for. Somewhere in the country watching livestock or guarding against wolfs. And don't get me wrong, but when I see a dog in a city with cropped ears it just looks to me like you are trying to make your dog look meaner.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I think that cropping would make sense if you kept your dog for what it was made for. Somewhere in the country watching livestock or guarding against wolfs. And don't get me wrong, but when I see a dog in a city with cropped ears it just looks to me like you are trying to make your dog look meaner.

I don't live in the city but I fell in love with my breed and I believe in preserving the historic appearance of the breed, it was done for a reason back then and I intend to maintain the look now and I retain my right to crop and dock my dogs. I also show and breed and having a dog that isn't cropped in the ring against cropped dogs puts them at a disadvantage. Do my dogs look meaner with their ears done... go and look at my post where I have pics of cropped and un-cropped the piercing look is the same no matter what and trust me the un-cropped one is the one you really don't want to cross

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

That's sad that there is biased preferences with cropped/docked dogs in the ring. A good specimen is a good specimen no......

Well when they do place the ban, it wouldn't matter in the ring.

 

[Nerosmum]

Id ave defiantly had my cc Nero's ears and tail done but Cropping and docking is banned in the uk, his mum and dad were imported from Serbia so were both done, I loved the look of them when we went to view the pups...I still love him just as much tho so alls good

 

[lukas]

I don't mean to say that I am right or that somebody else is wrong. Everybody has the right to do what he wants as long as he is not hurting or abusing the dog. I also think that it should be done by trained vets rather than somebody with a scalpel. But the whole point of dog evolution is, as the word says, a change in appearance or character. The CC today is worlds apart from the CC 50 years ago. As well as 90% of other breeds. You have CC dogs today that have over 150 pounds, its even desirable. How is that preserving the historic appearance? That dog would have no function in the past because it would be too heavy to hunt and too big to feed.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I don't mean to say that I am right or that somebody else is wrong. Everybody has the right to do what he wants as long as he is not hurting or abusing the dog. I also think that it should be done by trained vets rather than somebody with a scalpel. But the whole point of dog evolution is, as the word says, a change in appearance or character. The CC today is worlds apart from the CC 50 years ago. As well as 90% of other breeds. You have CC dogs today that have over 150 pounds, its even desirable. How is that preserving the historic appearance? That dog would have no function in the past because it would be too heavy to hunt and too big to feed.

I don't have corsi that are 150lbs. Are there some kennels that go for bigger is better yup. You are stepping into one of the oldest arguments of the corsi enthusiasts on what the "historic" corsi actually was. As for what the breed was intended for many years ago it wasn't just hunting, you are making an assumption that that is the only job a corso performed back then. There is a reason it is labeled as one of the more versatile dogs with the ability to excel at almost anything. It is an old argument that had been debated for years and is still debated on several groups on FB. That being said when I stumbled on the breed I saw a cropped and docked dog and fell in love with the entire breed. Are their breeders that breed for the bigger corsi? Yup but then again their are in any breed but I would not say that it is desirable or that the bulk of breeders breed are breeding for a larger corsi. A corso is meant to be an agile working dog, so a balanced, correct dog that has the stamina to work all day if needed is what the ones I know are striving for. I have seen what evolution has done to too many other breeds like the bulldogs, King Charles Cavalier Spaniels and thanks but I have no interest in my breed going the same way due to "evolution". We are already dealing with people breeding down a correct temperament so that they can be a more mainstream dog that anyone can handled as opposed to what a true corso should be. You know what I want to tell them? Go get a lab and leave my breed alone!

 

[lukas]

I actually agree with you. I think that the only way a breed will stay pure is to still be used for what it was developed for. A lot of good breeds were destroyed when people with no other interest but money tried to make them a fashion accessory. Breeds like the english bulldog that was once a powerful dog but now can hardly walk and breed right. That was not what I meant when I said evolution. The reason I love CC is that it is, in my opinion, a perfect dog. Strong, easy to train and devoted. The difference being that today it does not have to go boar hunting but still has to be a good protection dog. So his prey drive has to be less active so he does not make a snack out of somebodies chihuahua. My previous dog was a Serbian breed called Sarplaninac ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šarplaninac ). It's a breed originating from the ancient dogs of the Greek and Roman guardian dogs. And it's basically unchanged for centuries.