That really seems stupid. Why would anyone waste money registering their cafib dog with CBKC, when they believe that the organization is destroying the breed.
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umm, stupid? nope. See some people just want a good dog and they like what CAFIB has but like the idea of showing in multiple venues or there is no CAFIB shows near them, or they just do it for fun. I know a CAFIB guy that takes his Filas to ARBA shows... he always wins BOB because it is te only Fila there but he gives the ribbon to his daughter to play with... it is just something for him to do on his time off with his dogs. I have always said that CAFIB should have some sort of initial papers that do not turn into full papers until the dog has gained full approval (this is really hard). So no, there are plenty of reasons to get FCI papers or ckc or whatever people want.
If you are a cafib breeder and say you got 10 pups. If 7 of the 10 failed, would you still be considered a cafib breeder?
If you are a CAFIB breeder and you get 10 out of 10 fail then you need to examine your stock hence the regulation thet the dog must be bred w/ 3 diff dogs and those litters evaluated... ie. I have a great bitch, breed her with #1 male and all pups come out wrong...is it the female or the male? in order to find out you must breed that female with another male.. does she throw those same characteristics as the first litter? Yes= it is her NO= she needs to be bred to a diff male to make sure.. did the pups come out bad again Yes= it is her No= it was the first male.. it is simplified here but you get the gist of it.
Yea I understand that Ace. But so far as I can tell even cafib types aint cafib types unless breed by a cafib supporter so to speak. For example... If Lions den had two dogs that fit cafib to a T, yet were never reg or what have you with cafib, some would blow their top if you then said lions den breed cafib dogs. Hell even if both dogs came right from cafib with papers. They would not be considered cafib breeders. But I think we all know their are cafib breeders. Not because they fit cafib standard, but because they support and believe cafib.
ERRR... slow down there killer.. that is straight up bullshit. no one has EVER said that. If Lions Den had to CAFIB dogs and they complemented each other, were bred and produced pups that were of good quality... I would even buy one. I have bought dogs from breeders that have only 2 or 3 CAFIB dogs and 15 non CAFIB dogs before. If a person/breeder/kennel breeds GSDs and they just happened to stumble to a great Fila breeding I would buy from them. Sena Sene has some CAFIB dogs and he has bred them before and produced some good dogs that were sold right at a CAFIB show to CAFIB kennels... sooo, I dont know where you got that idea but it is straight nonsense.
Well said. It has been a rough year for cafib. They lost a few breeders, some that left made the point that hypocracy is rampant and that people care more about preserving the club than preserving the dog. If you take the best from both types and combine them you really have something. And there are breeders doing that but you would be shunned for even suggesting the idea of that. It will never change.
lol, you are a liar.. only CBKC loses kennels not CAFIB.. you are referring to Sileddin kennel, am I right? LMFAO, you are such a tool sometimes bro. you are getting your info from bad source and w/o research you spew it as truth... let me school you again shall I? Sileddin has NEVER been a CAFIB kennel, he has NEVER endorsed CAFIB. The owner is an FCI judge, he has dogs mostly from tabayara... did you think that is a CAFIB kennel? NOPE!!!!! it is a UNIFILA kennel. I like his dogs and many if not most would be CAFIB approved. his dogs have won over a 100 FCI championships and about 3 CAFIB ones... guess which way he leans? lol.
what breeders left? Just curious. CAFIB has shown the most thorough system to preserve the breed in the face of mixed breeding that is and was common knowledge. If a dog meets the CAFIB standard then great, CAFIB will evaluate and approve dogs with unknown pedigree and has offspring analysis as a facet of consideration. I don't know for sure but I think there are a fair percentage of dogs evaluated that don't pass and that should be what you want for working towards future of breed IMHO. I have never been to any evaluation by any club but I can imagine all clubs have issues as far as infighting/clicks/politics etc., especially when breeders are in a way competing with other breeders for business and notoriety. Isn't that kind of a known stereotype of dog world anyhow? as to nastiness at certain levels with the competition especially when it is subjective opinion of judge(s).
The non CAFIB guys never say anything bad about their own dogs, to the contrary you will see them post a pic, ask for critiques and you will see... "best dog in the world", wish I ahd 100 like her, flawless, perfect.... then one guy says, dont you think its legs are too short? Then it gets cute... who the hell do you think you are?, you are a nobody, your dogs are all shit and thats why you say such bad things about my dogs... "but I got my dogs from canil rio negro and I thought they were good".... Oh, wait a second, my mistake your dogs are perfect... "I'm sorry that i thought your dogs legs were short it must be the angle, now that I look more, your dog is perfect too..."
