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Too many fat dogs.

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season

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99 comments and 999 check marks (whatever that means) means that this thread struck a cord and created some good dialogue. Like it or hate it at least it got the point across. We live in a society where we try to avoid topics like this because it's uncomfortable. It's easier to stay in the comfor zone of being content. Being content isn't happiness. Content is like drinking lemon juice, smacking you lips, and convincing yourself you're drinking wine.


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MandyLionRock

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99 comments and 999 check marks (whatever that means) means that this thread struck a cord and created some good dialogue. Like it or hate it at least it got the point across. We live in a society where we try to avoid topics like this because it's uncomfortable. It's easier to stay in the comfor zone of being content. Being content isn't happiness. Content is like drinking lemon juice, smacking you lips, and convincing yourself you're drinking wine.


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The first step to betterment is always the hardest. Much easier to pretend to be a victim. Once you own up to what's really going on excuses won't cut it any longer. Only actions will....

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Great stuff. We are better off listening to these people since they have proven their theories with success. There is nothing to learn from people who accept failure as a way of life.

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BlackShadowCaneCorso

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At the top of the thread there is a thread tools option that you can click un-subscribe to the thread, but that only works if you subscribed to start with, I don't think it has any effect on whether you see if their are new posts or not.

Keeping in mind opinions are like a$$holes and everyone has one, unless they are a friend or someone I respect they don't hold much weight. Every day we see things people make excuses for that we could complain about but as someone's weight generally only affects them at the end of the day I will leave it up to them to make their own personal choices.

How do I unsubscribe to a thread?????

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marke

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there are plenty of pics of peoples dogs on this board , could you show me some you consider to be the obese ones ???? there's a picture section also where you might be able to find some ............ I honestly don't remember the last time I was at the vets and saw a big dog that struck me as obese ? I don't believe dogs get the arterial diseases we do , I think their heart problems are limited to genetic diseases ........... as far as joint disease , weight may exacerbate it , but it certainly doesn't cause it .........I think I've known 2 diabetic dogs in my life , and the one I know now definitely isn't from lack of exercise or obesity ......I've seen more physically ripped looking dogs drop dead from a warm day to think what they look like like means anything as to how fit or healthy they are ....... and I got plenty of names and pics of those dogs , along with some old fat smooth ones I've raised ......
 

season

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there are plenty of pics of peoples dogs on this board , could you show me some you consider to be the obese ones ???? there's a picture section also where you might be able to find some ............ I honestly don't remember the last time I was at the vets and saw a big dog that struck me as obese ? I don't believe dogs get the arterial diseases we do , I think their heart problems are limited to genetic diseases ........... as far as joint disease , weight may exacerbate it , but it certainly doesn't cause it .........I think I've known 2 diabetic dogs in my life , and the one I know now definitely isn't from lack of exercise or obesity ......I've seen more physically ripped looking dogs drop dead from a warm day to think what they look like like means anything as to how fit or healthy they are ....... and I got plenty of names and pics of those dogs , along with some old fat smooth ones I've raised ......
Most ppl that have overweight dogs don't think they are. If u want to see overweight dogs there are plenty of resources. I like Google.


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marke

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Most ppl that have overweight dogs don't think they are. If u want to see overweight dogs there are plenty of resources. I like Google.
I know there are overweight dogs , I've had a few , i'm sure I got one you'd say was overweight right now ....... I just don't believe it's a major health problem , I don't think you will find much in the way of an obese mastiff ...........most folks don't have the time to actually condition a dog , do you have any idea how long it takes to walk a dog into condition ????? how old is your dog ? got a pic of him ??? this one I called "Tubby" , he's 12 in this pic ............................................................................................................................
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season

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If you don't have the time to exercise your dog you shouldn't have one. I've posted many pics of Solo. He's almost 2. Look around.


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marke

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no , mortisha was an unhealthy wreck , considered by many to be a pos , you couldn't have paid me to take her ....... now Tubby , he was a beauty , he was just shy of 24" and weighed 125-130lbs , his fat sister was even better ........ your dog looks to be pretty young ? i'd like to hear from you when he hits 12-13yrs , should be no problem if you keep him thin ..........
 

Rugers-Kris

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Wow! Quite the thread. I've read through and will skip all the silliness and back and forth and just say that I definitely agree that there are far too many overweight dogs and that it is indeed inexcusable. I don't have an opinion on overweight adult humans, not my monkeys, not my circus.

A dog, however, can't make the decision as to what it's health will be like so it's absolutely the owners fault if their dog is overweight. I'm fairly passionate about the subject especially with the Mastiff's because we are already working with a short lived breed so we should do all we can to give them a full, healthy life.

I am very proud of my dogs, they are my very best friends and definitely my family and I raise them accordingly. I exercise them daily and they love it. I feed them a quality kibble and add cooked meat to each meal which I've been told over and over is BAD for them, I disagree.

There are a couple things I have seen that I disagree with. Someone said obesity in dogs is not an epidemic and that is not true. Research the topic, speak to a few vets or simply flip through a bunch of pictures and you will see that it is very much an epidemic and it is only getting worse. Ruger (EM) is well over 200 pounds without a bit of fat on him. I was told in a Mastiff Facebook site the other day that there is no way he weighs that much because their dog was 215 pounds and way bigger. Their dog was "bigger" around (fat) however, Ruger was at least three inches taller, has a bigger bone structure, a thicker neck, a large mass of muscle and a much bigger head so it's all relative I suppose. I've also been told that because of his weight in numbers he must be overweight even though pictures show a very clearly healthy, muscular boy but they are stuck on the numbers. If you like you are more than welcome to look at the tons of pictures of both of mine that I have posted in my years here.

On the other hand, even though this thread does not address it, overly thin dogs are unhealthy as well. Magnum (GD) is a two year old healthy, muscular boy who weighs 180 pounds. He is thick but fit and has no fat on him. In the Great Dane community I don't see too many overweight dogs but the opposite..way too thin because "keeping them thin helps them live longer" some of these dogs you can easily see all of their ribs when they are standing still and there are a few that you can see spines and hip bones. Horrible! The look like overly tall malnourished Greyhounds.

In the end, if we decide to get a dog we should do whatever we can to give them healthy, happy lives.

Each dog is different and require different levels of food and exercise to remain healthy and happy and it is up to us to figure out what that is and supply it.


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Rugers-Kris

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I know there are overweight dogs , I've had a few , i'm sure I got one you'd say was overweight right now ....... I just don't believe it's a major health problem , I don't think you will find much in the way of an obese mastiff ...........most folks don't have the time to actually condition a dog , do you have any idea how long it takes to walk a dog into condition ????? how old is your dog ? got a pic of him ??? this one I called "Tubby" , he's 12 in this pic ............................................................................................................................
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There are actually many obese Mastiff's and if people don't have time to condition their dogs they simply shouldn't have them.

It would take a very long time to walk a dog into condition but it takes very little time to exercise them properly. My boys are walked daily just because but I exercise them at home by playing games that they love. You can take your dogs swimming, use a flirt pole, play catch or fetch, etc....it's good for the dog mentally and physically and they enjoy it to boot. Just my opinion, of course.


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glen

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I agree if you don't have time to keep your dog fit and healthy then don't have one, we walk all 3 daily then with training and play they keep active not just physical but mentally also,
 

marke

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if your dogs are conditioned your not gonna worry about it being 80degrees when you walk them .......... they'll undoubtedly walk 3-4 miles without missing a beat ....... it was 80 degrees today when I took two completely out of shape ddb for a 2.5 mile walk/jog , it didn't put a dent in either of them , and it was obvious the walking part was for me .... they're without question out of shape , I bred the one in December of 2014 , I haven't exercised her since ...... if she can go out and run 3 miles is she fit ????? I know she's not ........... there is only one way to actually condition a dog , run them , with you , on a treadmill , with a bike , rollerblades ........your not gonna condition a dog with a springpole , a flirt pole , or a tug , there are not enough hours in a day ....swimming , i bet you could if you had a boat , nothing I've done or tried ... I've walked 4-5month old ddb pups 3 miles ...... walking my ddb is exercise for me , it's mentally good for them , so is taking them out for a ride to the store .......from my perspective to get conditioned you need to push past what you are normally capable of a little at a time ...... I work with a guy who is 6'3" , he weighs 330-350lbs , he's in his mid 40's , he runs for a half hour every night after he lifts .... i'd love to see someone to tell him he's fat cause he's lazy and eats too much , LMFAO ......... this dogue could run 12miles in about 1.5 hours , I've seen some conditioned dogs , took about 2-3 hours 5-6 days a week , plus she ran around loose allday with 3 other dogs .........love to see some pics of obese English mastiffs ........
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