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dogman#1

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Cyprus hills, "I just killed a man".... Why isnt that group in jail? didnt they just actually kill a man? hmm, maybe, just maybe it is a song and they didnt actually kill a man... huh, what a concept.
 

zebraworks

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no doubt that Ed Faron character was/is a fool but make no mistake that he also had a long history and prior for felony dog fighting. sounds like he took that history and knowledge and was working the "supply" side of the racket with whatever number of game dogs in his "mill" he had going.... or what other "cons" characterize as "going legit" but maybe he is someone you admire and respect for all of his dog knowledge?? I guess it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
 

dogman#1

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You are 100% right! I have actually never met the man nor have I ever talked to him but if he does posses knowledge of the breed which Im sure he does I would most def. pick his brain. shhh. I also got the book "Dogs of Velvet and steel" hard cover, original edition and signed by the author.... when do I get my charges? lol
 

kevinmuaythai

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HA! Lou does not promote dog fighting! He raps about the history and characteristics of the APBT...

Full disclosure..I don't know anything about this so called rapper or what happened with them being raided. However, Because it was posted I listened and almost the first line in the song he mentions a Game Dog biting it's owner...Which is not the characteristics of a APBT. But more so..I looked up some of the videos of them talking about the dogs and they repeatedly mention them being champions. These dogs weren't being shown, right? He means fighting champion, even mentioning they are a champion is very much Supporting and glorifying dog fighting. Or am I wrong about that being why they call them champions?
 

dogman#1

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oh and I got that book personally from the author and spoke with him several times.. the book is signed to me with my name.... the author has been jailed before as well... oh the "sort" i hang out with, lol.
 

dogman#1

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nope champions usally means fighting champions... that is obviously history as dog fighting has become illegal in the United States... all those ch and grch dogs are dead or imported from other countries now to be used as studs or brood bitches
 

zebraworks

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Full disclosure..I don't know anything about this so called rapper or what happened with them being raided. However, Because it was posted I listened and almost the first line in the song he mentions a Game Dog biting it's owner...Which is not the characteristics of a APBT. But more so..I looked up some of the videos of them talking about the dogs and they repeatedly mention them being champions. These dogs weren't being shown, right? He means fighting champion, even mentioning they are a champion is very much Supporting and glorifying dog fighting. Or am I wrong about that being why they call them champions?

No you are not wrong. The a-hole glorifies fighting dogs and has found his "niche" market of selling Dog Fighting RAP... that is crystal clear.
 

dogman#1

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I have a friend who has multiple straws off of grch lukane! He never fought the dog but owned him for some time after he retired and collected on him.
 

Winterspring

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I won't even be able to LOOK at those videos. The very idea of dog fighting is repulsive. All I know is that mountainfila found the guy that likely bred mine, as I highly doubt that there are too many Fila breeders in Mesa, Arizona, and I've had too many people tell me he doesn't look like one. Over the course of the last couple of days, I've come to realize that he IS a Fila, albeit with a head that disqualifies him completely. His personality is dead on, but the guy that bred him is a backyard breeder with no sense of what should and should not be bred. Taurus's line is probably all borked up and inbred, too, but I have no papers. This is a gorgeous breed, inside and out, and GOOD breeders are picky about those to whom they sell puppies, and make very little money off it because their #1 goal is to improve and foster good will and adoration for their chosen breed, and a good breeder will never have more than one or two breeds they favor. The Fila is a rare breed, and I like it that way. That means there's less chance of the inbreeding. I would never breed Taurus, because although I love him and take care of him as best I can (read: spoil), he's incorrect. And not just being black, either. So...for his birthday next year, SNIP SNIP. (Sorry ol' boy. They gotz ta go.)

For the sake of all dogs everywhere, get your pups from a good, clean, responsible breeder that loves their puppies as much as you will.

And for the record, since I've already stated that I can't even be bothered to watch disgusting videos, who the hell is the winner with the 'fro?? My God, I wouldn't buy gum from him. >_O Don't answer that. Or I might sic the dog on him. Just turn the dog around, scratch the dewlap and that tail will take care of him but good.
 

dogman#1

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winter, there are many dogs that ACT like a fila but they are not. I thought you said your dog was brown not black? if that wasnt you, my mistake. you can watch the videos they do not show any dog fighting whatsoever.. these guys are just playing on sensationalism to try and get their point across.
 

zebraworks

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Hey Juan, why exactly are you friends with this guy anyhow and Mortis? for love of Filas or "game dog"?? or is it just all about the music for you?? LOL
 

dogman#1

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knowing people in the history of the breed and picking their brain for tidbits does not make you a dog fighter. the truth of the matter is that the APBT breed is NOTHING but dog fighting. If you want to get proper knowledge on this breed you dont speak to the pet bull owners you speak to the people who were part of the history and make up of the history. Colby, Sorrels, etc. are all kennels that are one point were involved in dog fighting... they are now extremely well respected breeders of APBTs. they no longer fight their dogs but the essence of the apbt is still in there and their dogs are excellent at weight pulling, hog hunting and multiple other sports.
 

dogman#1

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kevinmuaythai, although man biting is highly discouraged in an APBT there are several man biter lines like the mayday dogs that where/are very popular and bred into other blood as well.
 

kevinmuaythai

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Isn't also possible for dogs to fight and often have no scars? EDIT: Specifically APBT(the raided dogs had no signs) I used to know dog fighting rules many years ago when I was reading Carl Semencic books, where he explained them. If a dog scratches enough times isn't a fight over? Meaning many dogs could be used for fighting and show no signs of it. I think he used the example of what I assume was a very famous fighting dog I believe named Carlos? A unbeaten Champ with no scars. Of course this was probably ten years ago I read his books...sooo Could be wrong.
 

zebraworks

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you can watch the videos they do not show any dog fighting whatsoever..

as I pointed out in this video at :28 second mark you have a photo of a dog fighter (and the gangster crowd outside the pit/box that they are fighting in) But of course Juan is going to explain to us that that isn't "real" but merely a "staged" scene the rapper used to make his music innocently....nevermind that the scumbag is "liked" by all kinds of thuggish pitbull gangbangers/pimps items to try to help a felony convicted dog fighter/breeder and is basically completely surrounded in fighting dog stuff via clothes/artwork etc. Just all a mere C0-inky-dink of a misunderstood "artist"..... LOL

you're a fool juan and nobody is believing your BS story....including the CAFIB people I will be sure to talk to.

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Winterspring

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Initiallly, I thought he was brown, but he's black, but got a little bleached out in the sun. (I'm getting a blonde streak myself.) Even if he were brown, all solid colors are acceptable according to FCI/CBKC standards.
 
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