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Breeders.....Protect our beloved breed.

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aceoutdoor

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For those of us that breed this wonderful, special one of kind dog please heed this warning. The Fila a once little known breed has been introduced to and become popular with shady and less than desirable breeders. Some of these peoples associations with other undesirables are putting our breed on the radar of the last people we want to be monitoring things like this. Our legal right to own this very special breed will sooner than later be in jeopardy. I ask all of you to be very, very selective in who you sell puppies to. You should be even more selective who you give breeding rights to. You can alter your contracts to restrict this, PM me if I can help. Remember people can show your puppies with only copies of the parents pedigrees. Can you imagine life without Filas? Someday you may have no choice. Stand up for what is right.
 

tojvan

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But most people that are already doing it are doing it to make a quick buck, knowing the consequences. I doubt they'll change their mind just like that.
 

dogman#1

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Im in whole hearted agreement! Let's use our brains and not go into a full retard mob mentality when looking at folks (especially folks we know nothing about). A person doesnt have to be "nice", well spoken, they dont need a Harvard education, to live in the sticks, to live in a mansion etc. to be a good Fila owner or even a breeder... sure it would be nice if they all did but lets face it most of us arent all those things. The ones to really look out for are the ones that incite confrontation, make believe they are for a "BREED" (when they dont even believe that that particular "breed" exists), those that allow anything and everything to be considered a "Fila" as long as it has papers. Those people have only one agenda and it has absolutely nothing to do with the preservation of the established Fila Brasileiro BREED. It is the responsibility of the owners, breeders and the Fila Brasileiro and other canine BREED aficionados to really make this thing work... let me tell you some of the best dog men and women this world has ever seen are not one of the things I mentioned and would put EVERYONE in this forum to shame with the knowledge they possess.
 

aceoutdoor

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Dogman#1, Brasileirokid, Cariduro back deck kennel, Juan Carlos Hernandez you have done enough damage to the Fila Brasileiro. If you cared you would have not threatened posters as well as I suspect moderators to delete threads as you deleted and rewrote the Fila Wiki page. I have screengrabbed everything you and your boyz have said now and in the past. Don't threaten me or anyone, you cannot pound your fist and get your way in the legal system like you are used to. I am done with you. You are an arrogant LEO who hangs with thugs. You are part of the problem not the solution. Keep your friends who "like" drugs and rap about and support people convicted of dogfighting out of our breed. Get lost SCRUB.
 

dogman#1

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lol, and now you see folks who EXACTLY these non CAFIB crowd is.. name calling comms warriors that do nothing but try and intimidate... sorry buddy, i'm not exactly the lil kid next door and those tactics dont work on adults. Normal educated human beings do not fall for the nonsense and lies you spew. your reign is over, you have been found for the fraud you are... you are done, go home, change your screen name and come back as someone else like all your other predecessors have done before you. Did you really think you can come on here and slander and incite others to slander people you dont even know and nothing would happen? who the hell do you think you are? You are what we in the military call a "Buff". A Buff is someone who talks like he is an expert on something but in reality knows absolutely nothing.. yes, for a while it almost sounds true but upon further investigation they are shown for the frauds they are. You Sir are the epitome of a buff and a pretty sorry excuse for one.
 

dogman#1

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BTW you keep using the word "BREED" as if you really think the Fila Brasileiro is a breed... how many times have you stated that the Fila Brasileiro is not a breed? 100, 1000? well of course it isnt a breed in your eyes because if it was you would not be able to call the multiple types YOU consider to be pure, Filas. tell these people what you really think of this "breed" or better yet folks why dont you do a lil research and see what lil ms ace has said before... he doesnt even know the meaning of the word.
 

aceoutdoor

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Alot of people have lost respect for you. If you had any brains you would shut up. How can you sell puppies to, support and promote people like the following guy who on the same channel, as he does bitework with your Fila puppy(you are in the video and posted vids with him on your channel), gets high on camera, sings about dogfighting as well as visits and raises funds for a man who pled guilty multiple times to dogfighting? How can you do that to our breed? Good night SCRUB.


[video=youtube;fNVTS9RBm1M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNVTS9RBm1M[/video]
 

chuckorlando

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WTF? I dont know what the hell yall's talking about. What reign has Ace been enjoying? I'm not sure I read anything bad here till Juan swerved the topic.... Who is threatening who? And who's the willy wonka cracker in the video
 

zebraworks

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who's the willy wonka cracker in the video

a dog fighting rapper that was sold a fila and is "buddies" with a couple of CAFIB fila breeders...here's a little sample of his glorification of dog fighting (and other horrors) and why BSL is a threat:

[video=youtube;1FDMUDSU7uQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FDMUDSU7uQ[/video]
 

chuckorlando

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Ah hell. Cafib nor anyone else needs them type fools with fila. I already see it..... Some jack ass will have stroke of genius and breed DA pitt to HA Fila for the ultimate aggressive dog. One could always hope they bring a mean ass fila to watch and he gets free and kills everyone. Be the end for that dog, but he would take that for the team
 

zebraworks

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several of his other videos have images of dog fighting pits in fact one cover for dead game is a dog fighting pit (check :28 mark in this video)

[video=youtube;kWKQThPHgX0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWKQThPHgX0&feature=share&list=UUcuYXBUoCE L42FvRe63ujaA[/video]

but according the lame excuses for the CAFIB "pals" of this a-hole it is merely a co-inky-dink that their buddy raps about dog fighting, is surrounded by dog fighting gang bangers and is tight with convicted felon dog fighter who just happened to have 160+ game dogs at his place because he loves and cares for them so much.... LOL

I got a feeling that CAFIB in Brazil wouldn't be real happy or supportive of this kind of association and "friends" because I have a feeling the club actually cares about reputations and dogs instead of using them as disposable pieces of garbage for gambling and macho BS gang related profit...
 

zebraworks

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Let's use our brains and not go into a full retard mob mentality when looking at folks (especially folks we know nothing about).

Juan, use your brain and cut ties and publicly make an apology that you had any dealings with this type of person or one can rationally consider you to be a person that endorses these folks along with Mortis which is a very bad mark on reputation and by association the CAFIB that you supposedly care about.
 

zebraworks

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How can you do that to our breed?

obviously not out of "ignorance" of who the guy is (that is of course completely ruled out), so that only leaves either just pure monetary reason for association with complete disregard for dog abuse OR they happen to endorse/enjoy the activities: fighting and the crappy raps.
 

dogman#1

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HA! Lou does not promote dog fighting! He raps about the history and characteristics of the APBT... That is like me telling the history and characteristics of the Fila stating, that they were used to catch runaway slaves, hunt jaguar, they hate strangers and will bite them, their loyalty is so that they will die biting a stranger rather then let him get you..... hmm, i just glorified slavery, illegal hunting of endangered animals, attacks on human beings by an aggressive and dangerous dog, etc.. it is stupid. Let's be clear about this the APBT was bred to do one thing and one thing only, stating that fact does not mean that person is glorifying it. Lou was sold a dog because he and his family (which I met) were threatened by morons such as yourself. A brick was thrown through his window while his daughter was playing in the room. Does he smoke weed? more than likely and that savage criminality would get him a smaller fine then you speeding in your truck. Again you are judging people based on what you want to see. It is obvious that you dont know him and spreading lies and BS just to get others riled up can and will most likely be met with legal action.

You have brought up Lou and ed Faron about every 5 or 6 months now and every time i shoot you down like the sucker you are. Ed Faron was a fool period. he sold a dog to undercover agents that said they wanted the dog for dog fighting... their were 127 dogs seized from his property.. ONE out of those 127 dogs showed signs of being in a fight..... ONE. The other dogs, according to hsus, were in great physical health..... For those that have multiple apbts on this board I ask... How many of your dogs have bite marks on them? All of them? He was convicted of 12 counts of dog fighting... 1 was the sale of the dog to be used for illegal purposes, the others are for????? spring poles, thread/slatmills etc. he did 8 mths in jail. Lou knows this guy and this guy had educated him on the history of the APBT, bloodlines, etc.. so thats why Lou likes him. What does this have to do with me? absolutely nothing.

So who is more likely to get legal ramifications from the company they keep??? Me because I know Lou who happens to rap about the history of a breed or the lackeys/ cronnies of Ace and Ace himself who are literally guilty of attempting to vilify others, are guilty of libel and should be jailed just on the grounds of mental retardation? (BTW that is why the last post was taken down... legal ramifications my friend). But keep typing you arent the only one that can take screen shots, lol.
 

dogman#1

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LOL, I just checked :28 of that video..... Proof positive, lou is a game bred pit fighting king pin, lol!!! Ace, you used to be just a lil smarter than this what the hell happened to you? grasping at straws shows your desperation.
 

zebraworks

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Juan, don't lose your grip on reality that your "buddy" is not promoting dog fighting!! I can't believe you would try to defend him as just "loving the history"!! Unbelievable.

with the moniker "Back in the Box" with "dead game Pit" inside an actual fighting pit??? yet you are willing to say "LOL" ?? who exactly is "retarded"?? you can't possibly be that naive or stupid.
 
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