Breeders.....Protect our beloved breed.

[chuckorlando]

Juan dont thin I curse cause of you. I curse constanly. Mods ont seem to mind in the fila threads so I'm free to post it how I think it.

Stop being a nazi. ahahahahaha. I know you was waiting on it.

Sure your weak if music changes you. This world is over run with weak. 75% of republicans believe exacly what fox news says, 75% of dem's believe just what cnn tells them. Hell people share man made post because it's say's in the post God will bless you. So acting like music dont influence is stupid on your part. If it should or what it might say about a person who is influenced is a mute point. It never the less happens every single day. So again, get your head out of your ass.

I aint even sure where you get "Ace" is someones leader.... Just because someone shares a mind set or thought dont make them in the same gang. Ace speaks for him self in the same way you dont speak for cafib members here.

I aint trying to beat no one over the head cause they know someone. I know alot of bad folks. Hell I know 3 dudes just caught life each. What I wont do is make excusses for them. Or down play the ignorance that was their very being. If willy thinks he has a point to defend, let him come defend him self. Your attempting to rationalize his actions. I'm here to tell you bro, it aint working out for you. Like I have said about cafib as a club, perception is reality. Regardless of what reality is, popular opinion becomes reality. Seems popular opinion aint jiving with the reality your trying to put out. If thats your boy then thats your boy. We aint gonna change that. And you aint gonna change no one elses mind. But in your attempt, popular opionion seems to be against you. So I would advice you let willy speak for willy.

 

[kevinmuaythai]

nope champions usally means fighting champions... that is obviously history as dog fighting has become illegal in the United States... all those ch and grch dogs are dead or imported from other countries now to be used as studs or brood bitches

This isn't true. I watched the video and they mention how they have had these lines for going on ten years, and when speaking of a puppy he mentions THE SIRE is a champion from wildside kennels lines. Meaning NOT IMPORTED.

Personally I see these people as a joke, BYBs(as in one of the videos the mention breeding a sick dog, and "bulky dog with hip problems"). They do fight, It's obvious..but my real question is why "defend" them in anyway?

"Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don't know because we don't want to know."

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[dogman#1]

Chuck, you know me... I can give 2 craps of the trash talk, in fact I invite it because as soon as I see it from Ace I know I won. Anytime he gets flustered he starts with personal attacks...it is his M.O and it is also my cue that i can have fun with it. The reason I pointed it out is because we had a troll that focused on me calling you a butt buddy on post 56 but somehow failed to see your racial comment on post 11 and Ace's slander on post 6...(way earlier than post 56). BTW I stop short on using racial stuff as that does really seem to piss people off. Racial stuff doesnt bother me but I know it makes others go crazy.. calling a white dude a cracker is the same as calling a black dude a nigger, calling a PuertoRican a spic or a Mexican a wet back.... just isnt cool.... like winter questioning my "lineage".. we kinda know where thats going as well.. Now about Lou... the kid is a character and yes I consider him one of my friends (boyzzzz for you ACE). I dont think any of you see my point and maybe that is my fault for not coming across clear enough and maybe it is your fault for making up your minds before you knew any facts, in any case there is nothing to defend. The kid like Pitbulls, he like the history of them, he learned from old school people, he talks about it, he makes songs about it etc. There is nothing wrong with the kid other than he comical as hell.

 

[dogman#1]

Kevin, where did that dog become a champion??? was it owned by wildside at the time it became a champion? Is it infact a champion? That last one is important as lots of people talk crap and if you dont know the truth you will fall victim. Anyone that would breed a sick fat dog with hip problems is obviously not a good breeder. Lets just say that wildside was the premier name in dog fighting and all things apbt (they never were) lets say they were criminals extraordinaires... If they were a good source of information you would see me talking to them... plain and simple. Now I have never talked to Ed Faron as I believe I have better sources of information but that doesnt mean no one should.

 

[kevinmuaythai]

Kevin, where did that dog become a champion??? was it owned by wildside at the time it became a champion? Is it infact a champion? That last one is important as lots of people talk crap and if you dont know the truth you will fall victim. Anyone that would breed a sick fat dog with hip problems is obviously not a good breeder. Lets just say that wildside was the premier name in dog fighting and all things apbt (they never were) lets say they were criminals extraordinaires... If they were a good source of information you would see me talking to them... plain and simple. Now I have never talked to Ed Faron as I believe I have better sources of information but that doesnt mean no one should.

Makes sense. I should say I've only started looking in to them from this thread. And as I take these are people of low moral standards, I wouldn't put it past them to call every dog they have a champion, without being one. And they certainly shouldn't be allowed to have ever been breeding dogs.

Seems apparent Ed did fight dogs, but has stopped long ago. From the interviews I found of him. The mention of albany lou...though I know nothing. I don't know wether that guy fights, breeds for fighting or just like the original pit bull not the destruction of the breed in to the American Bully.

but also the facts i've been using have come from them and interviews. Not other people.

of course i'm against dog fighting and come at this whole thing rather level headed though, and find it interesting to research. Random but when I first started researching fighting dog history about ten years ago, everyone back then seemed to mention a place called JEEP kennels.

 

[zebraworks]

Seems apparent Ed did fight dogs, but has stopped long ago. From the interviews I found of him.

Don't get carried away and forget that he moved to the supply side with a mill (you can see the conditions of the mill in videos of Albany Lou who was crying about him getting arrested again and his hundred plus dogs eventually being euthanized....over 100 dogs, many kept on Heavy chains as these a-holes do it...and of course they have the dogs "train" chained to tread mills and other things so they fight better. these scumbag dog fighters still talk about wishing they had some "wild Side Kennel" offspring and hit up Albany lou if he knows where he can find some....

The mention of albany lou...though I know nothing. I don't know wether that guy fights, breeds for fighting or just like the original pit bull not the destruction of the breed in to the American Bully.

Why don't you spend about 15 minutes and watch Lou's youtube channel and you will find out he is promoting dogfighting RAP as a "niche" for the gangbangers that love dog fighting. you will see multiple videos of "boxes" or "pits" for fighting, treadmills, heavy chains and the rest of the dog fighting training stuff.

what is bad is that this Mortis Kennels and Juan support and defend this piece of sh*t as if he is merely into the "history" of the pit bull!!! how delusional. it is obvioius that they defend dog fighting and sell Filas to low life scum (such as Lou). Lou's own stuff condemns them as they will not publicly condemn him. disgusting.

 

[dogman#1]

Kevin yes, ofcourse ed used to fight his dogs ALL the old gamebred kennels used to as they believed it was the only way to actually test the gameness of their stock and make informed decisions on breeding. Lou's, is NOT a breeder he has ONE spayed bitch which was NEVER bred, lol... can you see now how stupid these morons sound like? See when you fall into the mob mentality you just seem to run with it without actually knowing the facts, they are now grasping at straws attempting to hold onto their failed logic. Now they are mentioning slat mills and stuff... cesar milan used threadmills and he ties his dogs to them (what a dog fighter!!). What they dont understand about the axles in the ground, the heavy chains etc. has nothing to do with making them look tough but how can you explain dog stuff to people who dont know a thing about dogs? They just have pets and love to give them treats... they should stick to that instead of commenting on actual canine facts.

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Kevin yes, ofcourse ed used to fight his dogs ALL the old gamebred kennels used to as they believed it was the only way to actually test the gameness of their stock and make informed decisions on breeding. Lou's, is NOT a breeder he has ONE spayed bitch which was NEVER bred, lol... can you see now how stupid these morons sound like? See when you fall into the mob mentality you just seem to run with it without actually knowing the facts, they are now grasping at straws attempting to hold onto their failed logic. Now they are mentioning slat mills and stuff... cesar milan used threadmills and he ties his dogs to them (what a dog fighter!!). What they dont understand about the axles in the ground, the heavy chains etc. has nothing to do with making them look tough but how can you explain dog stuff to people who dont know a thing about dogs? They just have pets and love to give them treats... they should stick to that instead of commenting on actual canine facts.

And it only took 5 pages. Now if you'll excuse me I need some new waders.

 

[kevinmuaythai]

Kevin yes, ofcourse ed used to fight his dogs ALL the old gamebred kennels used to as they believed it was the only way to actually test the gameness of their stock and make informed decisions on breeding. Lou's, is NOT a breeder he has ONE spayed bitch which was NEVER bred, lol... can you see now how stupid these morons sound like? See when you fall into the mob mentality you just seem to run with it without actually knowing the facts, they are now grasping at straws attempting to hold onto their failed logic. Now they are mentioning slat mills and stuff... cesar milan used threadmills and he ties his dogs to them (what a dog fighter!!). What they dont understand about the axles in the ground, the heavy chains etc. has nothing to do with making them look tough but how can you explain dog stuff to people who dont know a thing about dogs? They just have pets and love to give them treats... they should stick to that instead of commenting on actual canine facts.

Well first off mentioning the treadmills is neither here nor there. Yes having a treadmill for dogs can be good, and also fighters use it for "condition" training their dogs. But it's just like a weapon. If you have rifles for hunting and hunt with license then you are committing no crime, however if you're a known to have guns to carry out crimes, then it's illegal.

So the mention of Cesar Milan compared to a known dog fighter(who was arrested once before for it) is of course invalid.

Secondly in this case of ED..I looked over the reports and I don't believe he was charged with having dog fighting paraphernalia(treadmill? spring pole?...I have a spring pole for my dog). He was charged with selling fighting dogs to undercover cops, Where Ed Stated that's what they were for. Of course he said he was only "taking the bait and going along with them". As someone who studied a lot of philosophy at Berkeley University I find that slightly hard to believe.

Last Lou might not be a "breeder" but he offers puppies for sale and Stud service directly from him......hmm

Again i'm just going off facts from police reports and what these people themselves said.

I think both sides of this argument are getting a little irrational. Of course i'm talking of this particular case and people only.. Not APBT as whole or even game bred community. Or a " mob mentality".

 

[aceoutdoor]

Kevin yes, ofcourse ed used to fight his dogs ALL the old gamebred kennels used to as they believed it was the only way to actually test the gameness of their stock and make informed decisions on breeding.

YOU ARE PATHETIC!!!! People who fight dogs are evil people on the same level as those who victimize children. Please get your backyard pit yard "setup" going and get out of our breed before you do further damage.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I broke about 6 shovels going through the BS that is stacked up here. Next time DD you supply the wadders and I will bring the shovels and then maybe we can get through it faster.

 

[Vicki]

Thread Closed and is pending removal from forum due to bullshit content.