Outcomes?

[JuneBugg]

This is me being curious, but what do you breeders breed for, and what do you breed?
What is the initial outcome in the breed(s) you're hoping for?

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

The exact thing that a breeder is breeding for can be different for each breeder, whether it is temperament, appearance, workability, etc. but all pairings should be to better the breed. Even in each pairing you could be breeding for something that changes with your next litter, example... perhaps you have a female that has a bad rear end, then you would breed to something to better the back end.

 

[mountainfila]

I would never breed a dog with a physical fault,no matter how well they looked, i dont want a chance of that bad rear or bad front showing up in generations to come. I would however breed a dog with a cosmetic fault, like coat color, ear or tail length etc, nothing that would impede physical movement.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

That is the other thing I forgot to mention, there will be sticking points for some breeders that is personal to them and their program that they will not compromise on. Mountainfila gave her's, mine would be temperament, there are far to many of our breed that have temperament issues that should not be bred.

 

[mountainfila]

Yes def agree about temp also, there are really quite a few considerations that have to match up to breed a healthy stable litter. You also cant just look at the dog in front of you, you must look at past generations also.

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

I agree and with different breeds the temperaments will be different. And looking at more than the two dogs in front of you and knowing your lines, which is a catch 22 as you can study your lines and those that have them but the experience comes from hands on work.


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[JuneBugg]

Well, yes of course.
I'm aware of the programs. I'm curious as to what the the goal is for specific breeders; their personal goals within the breed and their program, to henance the breed(s) itself/as a whole.

I.e. breeding working dogs, you would want them to exel in certain drives, and also be lean enough with enough stamina, and many other things. So, you would look for dogs to use in your program that have high drives, good athleticism and a willingness to work, that has been shown in multiple generations and is present in the dog with whom you are breeding.

What strengths do you see in your own dog, and what weakness and what would you breed that to to lessen the weaknesses and enhance the breed as a whole?
Of course, genetic defaults that could be life threatening or damage the quality of life, I'm sure are not bred, but must be bred out.


I have seen a lot of "poor quality" pups from breeders who say they know what they're doing and work for the betterment of their dogs, but have pups who come out looking nothing at all like their supposed breed. So I understand what you're saying. Haha.


What do you two specifically hope to achieve at the end of your program, if there is one?

 

[BlackShadowCaneCorso]

Think it will vary but for a guardian breed I would expect that it should be able to guard. Some of my dogs are considered to come from working lines (this is IPO, PP type of work, as I know what people consider work will vary) but I don't have the time to commit to that type of training. Would some of my pups be able to do so, I think but again I am not qualified to say yay or nay as I don't train for it. I want balanced dogs that if I want them to go all day with me are able to, structure is as important to me as a correct head type, having a pretty dog that can't move is too sad. I like to see confident dogs that have shown if at all possible but would not rule out a dog entirely if they did not as not everyone is into that sort of thing. Health is something that some breeders are working hard at but with a breed that is not that old it is not the greatest idea to eliminate a dog solely on this issue, if everything else is there for the pairing (not always a popular opinion but it is mine). But if that decision is made to use a dog that has an issue then it should be with complete and full disclosure to any puppy buyers and with a firm reason and plan in mind.

Depending on which dog we are looking at there are faults that each have that we work to try and correct, sometimes you win when you breed and sometimes you lose and have to go back to the drawing board. Like I said temperament is a big thing for me, I have two young girls and I could not imagine putting someone else's children at risk by breeding unstable dogs for $$.

There are lots of poor quality pups no matter the breed out there, and I have heard the complaints from people new to the breed that have said that with all the back and forth with breeders (this is really bad in our community) it is hard to know who to trust and where to start to find a breeder that knows what they are talking about/looking at.

At the end of the day I am breeding for additions to my program, and the pets that results are just gravy for those wishing to have a great pet. I want to produce a confident, stable corso that looks like one but is also able to work like one should the owners have the desire to, that is what I am looking for when picking a match, sometimes it is easy if you have your hands on both dogs and other times it isn't if the dog you wish to use is not one to can get your hands. That is what I hope to do, and what dogs I tend to use or pursue using will likely change based on the dogs that I currently have in my program but that is where I am at for the moment.

Does that make sense? Sometimes I think I ramble too much.