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Franklin has a trainer

Smokeycat

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All you can do is remind yourself that this is his best chance at a full and rewarding life. It's hard when they are hurting especially when we are the 'cause' but sometimes this form of 'tough love' is just what they need.
 

thelady_v2010

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Oh no! I am so worried for you and Franklin. I am so afraid he is going to bite and be put down. I hope somehow you guys can get the help you need.
 

Penelope's Mom

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Sorry for the delay. My internet crapped out on me.

Yesterday when i talked to the trainer, it was like he couldn't wait to get me off the phone. He was very abrupt when the day before he practically talked my ear off. I thought something might have happened to Franklin and he didn't want to tell me. I let it go for a couple of hours, then I called Beth because she was supposed to go out to check on Franklin for me yesterday. I went through my usual speech about how I hoped he would be ok in the heat and how I wanted him to eat soon. Instead of her usual answer of "he'll be fine", she told me that he's my dog and I could pick him up whenever I wanted to. So I asked her if I needed to and she said no, but she finally told me that the trainer had an Akita coming in this morning and with Franklin there, they didn't have anywhere to put him. There was no money for a run, and no place to put an extra run even if there was one. The Akita's owner was paying. Franklin was there for free, and this guy needs money more than I do, so I thought the right thing to do was to pick him up.
When i got there, i talked to the trainer who gave me a few tips. He told me to get a muzzle for him, and how to get him used to it. He showed me how to do corrections while walking him on the leash and suggested that i board him once every two weeks to a month, just overnight, so Franklin would know that he can survive without me. He said I could call him at any time with any questions or concerns I may have. Beth knows of a guy who works mostly with pitties and mastiffs who she will try to arrange home visits with. I also have the name and number of a behaviorist who I can contact who may or may not give me a discount. I really wanted Franklin to go through this program because as miserable as he may have been, in the long run, it would have been good for him. That's why I dropped him off in the first place! On a positove note, the two and a half days he spent there may have done some good. I planned a "slumber party" with my grandson yesterday before I knew Franklin was coming home. After he got here, my grandson got ready for bed in my room, on my bed, and Franklin didn't flinch. before he left, he never would have allowed him to be that close to me. I hope it's a change in behavior and not just the fact that he was exhausted from the whole ordeal. While I'm glad he's home, I'm very disappointed that this didn't work out, since I put him through it for nothing. But, for some reason, I feel like I'm more in control of him. I can't really explain it, but I feel more confident with him now.
Oh, and one more thing...the trainer got him in the car to come home in under a minute. Lol
 

ruthcatrin

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If you're seeing even a LITTLE improvement then it was worth it, but thats annoying as heck that the trainer couldn't have planned the timing better....at least nothing BAD happened, I was worried he'd bitten the trainer!
 

Penelope's Mom

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I'm gonna keep working with him, using all your suggestions and the suggestions of the trainer. It's all I can do for right now. I have to find a cheap muzsle and a prong collar and let Franklin know I mean business.
 

thelady_v2010

Well-Known Member
Franklin can't catch a break. I am really disappointed in the trainer, he agreed to do something, he should have followed through no matter what! I am glad you see some improvements in him and hope they continue!
 

Penelope's Mom

Well-Known Member
He also told me to retrain Franklin to use a crate. There's no way I can afford a crate that big right now though. He said he needs a 56 inch crate.
 

ruthcatrin

Well-Known Member
Keep an eye on craigslist, I see crates listed on mine fairly regularly, though they're not always the giant breed ones.
 

taisa899

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Just remember baby steps, long as you keep moving forward no matter how slow it is, it's good.
You might also want to loook at getting him some L-Theanine. I give my girl 2 225mg pills a day. They're cheap, holistic, and really have helped her with her anxiety and fear

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LizB

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Well, I agree with the above that I'm glad you are seeing some small positive changes, but I'm also very annoyed that the trainer would blow all this sunshine about working with him, then the minute another dog comes along he's running Franklin out. It seems like if he made the commitment to help then he ought to honor that, since it would have been so much better to have followed through, after what you went through getting him there.

You'll need to be a strong leader to Franklin and show him that you make the decisions, and he'll respond to that. Its like having a child - you need to be a leader to them and you can't be their friend, because it doesn't do them any good. Its not about being mean and using force, its about setting the rules and insisting they be followed.

I'm optimistic about the whole thing, though, and you seem to be committed to getting things sorted out for Franklin. Best wishes as you proceed, and you know you have a lot of resources here.
 

Penelope's Mom

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In the trainer's defense, he never asked me to pick him up. No one was going to tell me about the new dog coming in. Since he was doing everything for free, I felt bad because he was in a bind. I still have access to him any time I need him by phone. I am seeing very tiny changes in Franklin's behavior, even today. I'm trying to build on it, and hoping that it's not just because he's still exhausted from his trip.
 

raechiemay

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Continue to stay strong for him, reassess the small training advances he's made in another 24-48 hours because I just have a suspicion that the couple day stay away from you probably did wear him out & what you're seeing *might* be exhaustion. It sounds like you have a lot of great support on your side & I know we would all like to hear/see how he's progressing with a new training regime over the next few months.

It's so great that you feel a sense of confidence now. Maybe you both just needed a little bit of a "break" in order to re-group. There's nothing wrong with a dog being bonded to it's owner, but when he is potentially a threat to other people, dogs & children, you gotta think to yourself, ok...it's not too late, let's make a change. Keep at it & most of all remember consistency. You are both going to have good days & bad days so don't dwell on the bad days & lose your focus/motivation. Utilize the resources you've been given & of course we are always here to help wherever we can. Sending hugs to you & Franklin.
 

Penelope's Mom

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We have already started working on making him work for everything. He has to do something before he gets to eat, get a treat, and even go outside, and he isn't even allowed to walk out the door until i'm out first. I am trying to build a foundation now that both of us hopefully, have a different outlook. I'm running his life. He isnt going to run mine anymore.
 

raechiemay

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We have already started working on making him work for everything. He has to do something before he gets to eat, get a treat, and even go outside, and he isn't even allowed to walk out the door until i'm out first. I am trying to build a foundation now that both of us hopefully, have a different outlook. I'm running his life. He isnt going to run mine anymore.

Huge thumbs up momma! Kudos to you!
 

taisa899

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If you allow him on your bed or couch do the same thing, don't allow him on them until invited

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joshuagough

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Didn't sound like this trainer was new to what he does. If he had needed you to pick Franklin up I'm sure he would have told you.

If I were you I'd ask him to take Franklin back at a later point. From all the post I've read you've been through some mighty big storms lately and in the past. So don't take this as me being judgmental but your going to have to get your self to the point where, if your expectation of Franklin is to be manageable. Your going to have to let go of the fear he isn't directly in your sight, and not try to run to baby him.

When your world is turned up side down, and people have hurt you it's easy to only put your faith in a dog that show's love no matter what.. can't say I blame ya. That said Franklin needs a leader to get back on track.

Tough love, but know your in our prayers!
Good luck..




In the trainer's defense, he never asked me to pick him up. No one was going to tell me about the new dog coming in. Since he was doing everything for free, I felt bad because he was in a bind. I still have access to him any time I need him by phone. I am seeing very tiny changes in Franklin's behavior, even today. I'm trying to build on it, and hoping that it's not just because he's still exhausted from his trip.