Fila?

[voidecho]

Even I know this isn't Cafib. Is this Kona's long lost sister?

http://fresno.craigslist.org/pet/3772672245.html



I wonder what "good temperament" means?

 

[voidecho]

Actually, that's probably the male. And this is probably the female...



Nice chain.

 

[dogman#1]

no def not CAFIB but also def not a Fila. I think Kina looks alot more typie then these dogs.

 

[voidecho]

I agree....I have no idea what the heck these are.

 

[chuckorlando]

Nope no kin to kona. I would be Leary of something labeled only as a Brazilian mastiff. Also known as a brazilian mastiff. But never just a brazilian mastiff. Now I aint saying some folks dont call them that as I'm sure they do. But most folks I have talked to and especially breeders, call them fila or fila brasiliero

 

[girldogue]

rottweiler mixes

 

[aceoutdoor]

Good ol Fresno alley dog.

 

[Tiger12490]

Peddled mutt

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[dogman#1]

C'mon guys. what is wrong with you all? These dogs are Filas through and through. who the hell do you think you are calling that man's dogs mutts and common alley dogs? you should be ashamed of yourselfs acting like child molesting catholic priests and white supremecist racists! Ashamed I tell ya! LOL.

 

[dogman#1]

Seriously though if that guy were a member here you would all be saying how filas come in multiple different types and that one is one of them and I would be getting called all sorts of names.. not that I care but it is a little eye opening that you guys do EXACTLY the same thing as me (actually you guys are meaner about it) but try and call me out for the doing the same... I am glad you can see mixed bred traits even if it is only other people's dogs and not your own.

 

[tojvan]

Don't tell me you don't see the difference between those dogs and the ones owned by some of the members. You yourself said that CBKC has some good examples and some bad ones. That just happens to be a bad one.

 

[chuckorlando]

Don't tell me you don't see the difference between those dogs and the ones owned by some of the members. You yourself said that CBKC has some good examples and some bad ones. That just happens to be a bad one.

Welcome to Juans world. ahahahahaha. In Juans world everything is to the extreme. When he's not being extreme it's cause he was called exxtreme and is trying to prove he aint extrme. ahahahahaha. "I never said all, I have said they produce some" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Tiger12490]

Juan .....apples and oranges..... If you put Athena and Kona next to that dog we'l clearly see a difference... and they also are bitches....not nice temperaments....this is obviously a peddler (and as far as i know none of the CBKC guys on here have once peddled here or anywhere we can find)...its not just about color and very minor phonetic differences that there is a different dog..apples and oranges....

 

[aceoutdoor]

Seriously though if that guy were a member here you would all be saying how filas come in multiple different types and that one is one of them and I would be getting called all sorts of names.. not that I care but it is a little eye opening that you guys do EXACTLY the same thing as me (actually you guys are meaner about it) but try and call me out for the doing the same... I am glad you can see mixed bred traits even if it is only other people's dogs and not your own.

LOL Thats what they call grasping at straws Juan. You and your club would be better served if you just did not comment at all on Black Filas, the people who own them or people who wish to own one. I read quietly for years, but seeing you run off people who were asking about finding a good black puppy and them subsequently buying a dog from Luis is what got me posting, FYI. You should really leave it alone.

 

[mountainfila]

see thats the thing, all they have to do is see the color black and they already form an opinion and go over that dog, pick every little thing apart just because its black and they have to find something wrong with it or their whole evaluation process is bogus hshit: everyone knows that theres no such thing as a black fila , right juan :slapme: :giggle:

hey ace empty your box :waiting2:lol

 

[dogman#1]

AH, not true Mountain. I have posted this before and Ace can testify to its validity.... A non CAFIB breeder posted a beautiful almost flawless black dog, I fell in love with the thing immediatly, Fila through and through (based on picture). I copied the picture and sent it to every judge I knew and told them that dog must come to a CAFIB show and get evaluated because it was freaking stunning... I looked like an arsehole when we found out it was a multi champion from CAFIB out of the kennel Alto Quatis... the lil booger photoshopped it and made it look black... I felt like an idiot but that goes to show you that I am not against the color black as long as it doesnt show any other traits of being mixed bred (hence me asking for that dog to attend CAFIB eval to make sure). I can only state this 3Xs a week but you guys keep saying that I believe that all blacks are mongrels.. the truth is that they were certainly infused with another breed either far back or yesterday but that doesnt mean that they cant be bred in a way to shed all the other mixed bred traits.... like the wolves you posted.

Ace if we said nothing then countless others would be duped as well... we dont like company for the misery.

Tojvan, I still stand by it. CBKC can throw a million good dogs but that doesnt make them pure. The fact that bubba, these dogs and even that nut jaime's dogs can get pedigrees stating that their dog are pure is evidence on why you just cant trust cbkc pedigrees. Which is why CAFIB exists today and will exist tomorrow.

Ace, Chuck, Tiger.. look what you guys stated that this guy's dogs were.... peddled mutts, alley dogs etc... you say CAFIB talks down to people but we would never do that yet you guys do it and it isnt "extreme" at all.. get over yourselfs. you get mad cause i say that your daog may not be pure but it is o.k to tell someone that their dogs are "fresno alley dogs" or that he is peddling mutts? Did you write eshabetta and tell her the same thing after you saw bubba? No? Really? why? could it be because those dogs are in your dog's background? yea, we can see how objective you guys are. Any ways yes, SOME of the other people's dogs on this site may show LESS signs of mixed and poor breeding but that doesnt make them pure either, it just makes them closer to the standard.

BTW, I would like for you guys to look up this guy on Facebook. His name is Jaime L. Gonzalez. He is proudly displaying some dogs that I would like you guys to comment on over here. The dogs are obviously mixed bred but I want you guys to truthfully answer if those dogs were mixed bred from 20 generations ago or from 1 or 2 generations... PSS, he also owns the dilutted black one with tan markings like a rottie. This my friends is why CAFIB is still around, the notion that "it happened 50 years ago" is wrong and has always been wrong. It is happened 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, 1, 6 mths, yesterday and some today. Papers are garbage and can only be trusted if you were there or you bred them.

 

[chuckorlando]

I'm sorry, is this voids dog? We aint tearing apart this guys dog cause this guy aint on here talking bout his dog. But if he was on here, trying to sale that dog as a pure Fila, well he will get what he gets. If he was on here asking what we thought of the fila he owns, it might be a whole nother conversation. But neither of them are the reality. No, this is a CL add void found and posted. Theres a huge diff between a guy with a dog that may or may not be a fila and a guy selling a dog claiming it's a fila. And even bigger diff dealing with a pic of a random dog found on the net.

Funny how saying bubba has bat wings on his face was cool but this here crossed a line. ahahahaha.

 

[chuckorlando]

I'm not friends with him so I cant see but a handfull of pics and none worth using. I will say I was not sure if the yellow was a lab on the cover pic. But again, not a pic to use for passing judgment

 

[aceoutdoor]

ah, not true mountain. I have posted this before and ace can testify to its validity.... A non cafib breeder posted a beautiful almost flawless black dog, i fell in love with the thing immediatly, fila through and through (based on picture). I copied the picture and sent it to every judge i knew and told them that dog must come to a cafib show and get evaluated because it was freaking stunning... I looked like an arsehole when we found out it was a multi champion from cafib out of the kennel alto quatis... The lil booger photoshopped it and made it look black... I felt like an idiot but that goes to show you that i am not against the color black as long as it doesnt show any other traits of being mixed bred (hence me asking for that dog to attend cafib eval to make sure). I can only state this 3xs a week but you guys keep saying that i believe that all blacks are mongrels.. The truth is that they were certainly infused with another breed either far back or yesterday but that doesnt mean that they cant be bred in a way to shed all the other mixed bred traits.... Like the wolves you posted.

Ace if we said nothing then countless others would be duped as well... We dont like company for the misery.

Tojvan, i still stand by it. Cbkc can throw a million good dogs but that doesnt make them pure. The fact that bubba, these dogs and even that nut jaime's dogs can get pedigrees stating that their dog are pure is evidence on why you just cant trust cbkc pedigrees. Which is why cafib exists today and will exist tomorrow.

Ace, chuck, tiger.. Look what you guys stated that this guy's dogs were.... Peddled mutts, alley dogs etc... You say cafib talks down to people but we would never do that yet you guys do it and it isnt "extreme" at all.. Get over yourselfs. You get mad cause i say that your daog may not be pure but it is o.k to tell someone that their dogs are "fresno alley dogs" or that he is peddling mutts? Did you write eshabetta and tell her the same thing after you saw bubba? No? Really? Why? Could it be because those dogs are in your dog's background? Yea, we can see how objective you guys are. Any ways yes, some of the other people's dogs on this site may show less signs of mixed and poor breeding but that doesnt make them pure either, it just makes them closer to the standard.

Btw, i would like for you guys to look up this guy on facebook. His name is jaime l. Gonzalez. He is proudly displaying some dogs that i would like you guys to comment on over here. The dogs are obviously mixed bred but i want you guys to truthfully answer if those dogs were mixed bred from 20 generations ago or from 1 or 2 generations... Pss, he also owns the dilutted black one with tan markings like a rottie. This my friends is why cafib is still around, the notion that "it happened 50 years ago" is wrong and has always been wrong. It is happened 50, 40, 30, 20, 10, 5, 1, 6 mths, yesterday and some today. Papers are garbage and can only be trusted if you were there or you bred them.

huh???????

 

[dogman#1]

Ace, its called English.. get a translator if need be.

Mountain, the dogs are mixed bred and that is as plain as day as are other dogs people post. What difference does it make whether or not he plans on selling them as pure filas? the people from this forum got obvious mixed bred dogs from people doing the same thing ...but no, those where ethical breeders and not mutt peddlers huh? Everyone on here keeps stating "if it looks like a fila and acts like a fila then it must be a fila.... well this guys obviously believes that his dogs look and act like filas then using your logic they muct be filas, right? well we all know they arent but why are they not and someothers that show mixed bred traits as well are? could it be that he doesnt know what a fila really is? who knows maybe he thinks like Ace and that the fila isnt a breed at all but instead a type of dog.. the truth of the matter is that he isnt a SME and therefore his opinion matters not.. let's see, who is a SME on Filas? Are there any canine judges in the world that ONLY deal with the Fila Brasileiro breed? well yes, there is... CAFIB.