This kind of scare me....

[Tiger12490]

I also am extremely confused at how a crate would change a dogs temp... if anything (and children and dogs are apples and oranges) I see it as putting a young child in a play pen, swing etc surrounded with toys and animal crackers while you do small chores... I don't understand how you could put your child in a crib or a baby pen and then be anti crate ....same thing just the ceiling is lower........

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[ruby55]

Most dog owners know how ridiculous this ad is. Most dog owners DO NOT use crates as punishment, or confine their dogs for hours and hours and hours. I am concerned however that PETA will get this message out to the masses who do understand the difference between discipline & punishment. And the masses will jump on the bandwagon. After all they've heard that those "puppy mill" things are locked up in filthy cages for all of their lives, poor things. And in this article, PETA gives the impression that these crates are horrible cages. So the PR that PETA does could make those crates we use be torture chambers in the public's eye.
Decades ago, I thought PETA was wonderful. Then as I got to know them, I realized their agenda was/is WAY different than mine. I want to be able to live in mutual respect with all living beings, but I'm pretty sure we're past the notion of all living beings being able to run free & unmolested by humankind. So this kind of slander & liable makes me crazy. If PETA would work at humane interactions between the species, it would go much further.

 

[grazefull1]

i never heard of peta who r they?

 

[Jadotha]

PETA = People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. They initially gained credibility with the public through exposing sordid conditions at puppy mills and some pet shop suppliers, advocating throwing paint all over people wearing fur and other causes many people could sympathise with. However, their real agenda is to abolish pet/animal ownership in any form, and they consider it 'humane' to collect animals (dogs, cats, horses) that people are planning to relinquish to shelters/rescues, promising to find good homes but then immediately killing them. This is rationalised as humane because they are better off dead than in human slavery. They have also been implicated in faking supposedly candid shots of animal abuse in various settings. They (or their followers) have also done environmental damage through 'freeing' minks in the Uk and here in the US.

 

[Smokeycat]

I went to their website just to look around. I have always thought that PETA is unreasonable in many of their ultimate goals. The 'best' post I read there is that eating any form of meat makes you a cannibal. I always thought that one had to eat its own species to classify as a cannibal. "Learn" something new everyday.

 

[Cody]

Ingrid Newkirk, PETA's founder is a scary scary woman.
Here is a quote from her speaking of her job at a kill shelter in the 1970's
"I'd go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself...I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day."
Her ideal goal is to abolish all animal ownership/guardianship.
They make me angry, but what infuriates me more is all these people supporting them with no idea of what and who they are!

 

[Duetsche_Doggen]

Grazefull, be glad I went to there headquarters in Norfolk, VA one time it was weird. Even tried to be supportive of some of their fundraisers, those people are just "wacky." From the outside view the intentions may seem harmless, inside however that BS runs deep.

 

[Confused68]

We try to make the crate as pleasant as possible. We never use the crate for discipline and we frequently give them a treat or bone to munch on when they go to it on there own.

 

[Tiger12490]

Grazefull, be glad I went to there headquarters in Norfolk, VA one time it was weird. Even tried to be supportive of some of their fundraisers, those people are just "wacky." From the outside view the intentions may seem harmless, inside however that BS runs deep.

O man DD these guys use to come and protest Marine Corp BBQs when I was stationed there psychos

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[Duetsche_Doggen]

O man DD these guys use to come and protest Marine Corp BBQs when I was stationed there psychos

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Unbelievable nothing else better to do........typical "PITA"

 

[Marrowshard]

<nod>
I've always been a little hazy on how PETA is considered an "activist" group but ALF is a "terrorist" group. Tarred with the same brush, and all that. And yes, "cannibalism" is same-species. Kind of like "homicide" only applies to humans. You can't commit homicide against a cow.

~Marrow

 

[grazefull1]

wow :scared2: