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Some of the BS about Boerboel registration

DMikeM

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So questions were brought up about Boerboel registration processes and appraisials. I'll post a little about it here, I know I will catch hell from the dragon lady across the pond because she has a spy here but oh well the puss filled haggas faced witch can kiss my sodding tosspot a$$. Ah hem pardon the outburst.

So here is some of the stupidity but maybe not real stupid
You have 2 pure bred BBs let's say they score 90% and 85% on appraisals and have been registered as SAB/SABT Boerboels. You mate these 2 grand champion BBs and get a litter of 10 pups. 8 pups are the normal colors of brown with black masks but you get an Ultra Reverse brindle and a powder blue. You announce your litter with SAB and they issue birth certificates for all of the puppies. They have a pedigree line to back them up. Now you sell the puppies off and a year later the new dog owner goes to appraise the Blue Powder. Well he gets disqualified because he is the wrong color and is now called a dog not a Boerboel then the owner is told he is forbidden to breed that dog and should have it neutered. Now the lady with the Ultra Brindle goes to have her dog appraised but it has a liver colored nose, and it also gets DQ and she can't breed her dog either. The other 8 pups goes to appraisal and scores between 82% and 87% and get registered as an SAB Boerboels. All these dogs are pedigree with long lines of great dogs but those odd 2 get culled from the breed. Both good and bad here not every dog meets a breed standard but at least you get to register them.

Now the famous black boerboels. I don't have the exact details but I am going to paraphrase it to a usable story. Someone found a dog in a pet store that looked like a boerboel but it was black. So he buys it and gives it to his dad who owns a boerboel kennel, he registers this dog with SAB/SABT as a brindle because black is not in the standard but he uses his kennel name on the dog. He breeds this dog we call Pet Shop Jim to his high % bitch Boerboel and they get a couple black pups. Then her interbreeds this litter with Jim and gets a few more black dogs and he sells these rare black dogs for as much 10 grand. But then SAB pulls the plug and says there are no black boerboels and puts a red X on all of Petshop Jim's offspring making it so none of his offspring can be registered to breed as Boerboels. sheeesh!

Now EBBASA/BI come into play. They say there are no Blue or Black Boerboels PERIOD! So now these people that thought they could breed their rare black boerboels that SAB had previously registered can't. They have registered dogs that are now shunned upon by the ORGS.
Boerboels have only been a recognized breed for about 30 years. Back in the 80's several people searched the South African areas for the best of the best Boerboels, they looked at over 250 dogs and selected 72 to represent the breed. There were no black dogs and it was expressly stated there are no black boerboels all other colors were accepted. There was a phobia concerning black dogs back then.

Now on my personal research I am contacted by a woman whose father raised his father's boerboels far before the time of the gathering of the 72 dogs. She tells me she had black boerboels back then as did her grandfather and other farmers in the region. Flash forward to the present, one or more of these black dogs are exported from Africa and introduced into a couple of big name breeders/kennels but still the ORGS say there are no Black Boerboels.

So hopefully I didn't Boer (LOL) Bore you with this story but it is such a convoluted mess it becomes interesting to try and investigate and find the truths.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
Additionally there are breeders crossing Boerboels with other mastiff breeds and calling these dogs Boerboels.
And there are different accepted standards to be accepted by different countries. UK Boerboel seems to like the massive block heads (accepting just about any dog that resembles a boerboel). Russia Boerboel are turning out the most impressive large boned Boerboels. Africa still has the taller longer headed Boerboels, and the US seems to be all over the board.
 

mx5055

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Thanks Mike. If the dragon lady across the pond gets after you, point her at me since I was the one who started asking you the questions last night. No apologies needed for possible boredom, I find this history fascinating..until I joined this forum because of getting my cc pup I had never even heard of a Boerboel. And, the first pic I ever saw of one was Jade, and she is a beauty...all 3 of your dogs are very striking looking. When that thread started yesterday about the appraisals, I got really confused, as I just assumed if a dog is purebred and has papers and can be registered why would you need an appraisal? Thanks for the info....some of it does seem to involve quite a bit of "BS" but that sometimes seems to be the norm in the dog world. I love reading about and learning anything about dogs, especially ones that are new to me, so feel free to post the info, cause I doubt I am the only one that feels this way :)
 

DMikeM

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Did you see the new shots of Jade I posted. I really am proud of her latest look.

The power of her back end kind of shows here.
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DMikeM

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Thanks, Jade's got back for sure.
She seems to run Boerboel UK. Or maybe she thinks she does. I'll refrain from naming her.
 

tb44

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Jade is beyond beautiful even if she is the class clown! :p

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DMikeM

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Thanks. I think she has trimmed down nicely and her muscles are starting to come in. She is still a big girl looking down from above, but in that shot she almost looks skinny in the middle. I love to just watch her walk or run in the yard. There is so much power and grace in her movements and she just keeps getting better.
 

tojvan

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It's like that with alot of the breeds, i think the idea of having a club dedicated to a specific breed was done for the good of the breed, but now its nothing more than politics.
 

DMikeM

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Right now there are several orgs in a battle to "OWN" the breed and the African Authority has stopped random export of the Boerboel. You must apply and get special permission to export one. If it is sneaked out then attempted to be registered it will be denied by all the orgs at this time. Any imports from SA must come with special papers right now from what I have read.
 

tojvan

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interesting is it the same case if i was to buy a pup from a breeder located in Africa or is it just for adult dogs and have you heard of Baden Boerboel?
 

DMikeM

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Oops, I take that back I have heard of them, they are one of the most respected breeders in Africa.
 

DMikeM

Well-Known Member
This is th information regarding the export of Boerboels from Africa,

Export of Boerboels from South Africa.

Breeders are requested to approach the Registrar of Animal Improvement for export authorisation for ALL Boerboels being exported from South Africa.

As the registration of SABBS in terms of the Animal Improvement Act is suspended until agreement can be reached on a single body and a common Constitution, the Registrar requires that Breeders work through their Associations (SABBS, EBBASA, BI or KUSA) to verify all requests to his office before submission.


BI and EBBASA requires the full details of the breeder and buyer, the pedigree of the dog, all health certification available and a copy of the contract with the buyer as soon as the purchase agreement is made.
We forwarded a request to the Registrar for leniency regarding the number of days required for notice to the Registrar in terms of the Act which is currently 30 days but as the status quo has not officially been changed, breeders are requested to submit their applications as soon as possible.

Vincent Marvell and Johan Swart
 

tojvan

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Oops, I take that back I have heard of them, they are one of the most respected breeders in Africa.
i know i was planning on getting one from them, but went against it since i already had a german shepherd.