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Skin condition please help

Iymala

Iymala

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For a puppy you should be able to see an outline of the last 2 ribs as far as body condition.

Feel free to post the foods you are looking at and we can give you feedback if you like.
 
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Barbiegodman

Member
Whole rice (40%), duck meat meal (20%), naked oats, peas, whole linseed, sunflower oil, beet pulp, vitamins and minerals.

I've just found this one these are the ingredients, do they sound ok ?
 
Iymala

Iymala

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Nice limited ingredient choice. It should help you rule out skin issues. What is the guaranteed analysis on it?
 
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Barbiegodman

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It's really difficult to find I've tried googling the brand but all I can find is

Protein 22%
Oil 11%
Fibre 3.5%
Ash 5%
Vit A 10,000 iu/kg
Vit D3 1,500 iu/kg
Vit E 280 iu/kg
(as alpha-tocopherol)
Copper 12 mg/kg
(as copper sulphate)
 
Hank DDB

Hank DDB

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IMO your best option is to feed raw, (a diet close to what a wolf/fox/dingo would eat in the wild) so buy a chicken from the supermarket cut it up into quarters or smaller, and feed this to hooch, you also need to feed other meats and organs. Google Dr Becker she is a vet and has numerous YouTube videos. Also give hooch fish oil at a rate of 1ml per 10 kg of body weight. I give hank 4 fish oil tablets a day, he eats them out of my hand.
 
DennasMom

DennasMom

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Denna only has slight skin issues, but fish oil capsules help her a lot.
A number of people also have good luck with coconut oil - both internally and externally.

We used the "epi-soothe" shampoo and conditioner, which helped relieve itchies. The conditioner alone might be worth a shot. They also have a leave-on lotion, but we haven't needed that.

Cute puppy! Sure would like to see him with a nice coat of fur! :)
Hope you find the culprit soon.
 
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musicdeb

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I can see his skin issues in the pics and he is adorable as well as the little one. :)

Oats are grains so I would not recommend feeding that food. Coconut oil is fantastic for the skin. I use it on my body too. *winking*

It looks like he may have demodex mange, did the vet rule that out? It is very treatable but takes a long time to clear it up. If it isn't demodex then it's food allergies.
 
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musicdeb

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If you are changing his kibble, do a slow transition so not to cause diarrhea. Feed 3/4 cups of old food and 1/4 cup of new food for about 3-4 days. Feed 1/2 old food and 1/2 cup of new food for about 3-4 days. Feed 1/4 cup of old food and 3/4 cup of new food for 3-4 days. Then feed 100% new food. If at anytime during the transition diarrhea starts, return to previous amount until diarrhea stops.
 
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Barbiegodman

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Yeah they have ruled it out with skin scrapping but has also been treated with a flea and mite treatment that would kill the mites. The first pic is a few days after we got him when his skin was really bad, he is much better than this now and as you can see from the other two pics he is getting more hair.

We actually use coconut oil on him over night before being able to get him to the vets it made a huge improvement but would be difficult to use now as its all over his body .
The vet I have been seeing has been practising for 25 years and never seen anything so servere.

I just wish I could know exactly what it was so I could help him better
 
Iymala

Iymala

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If it does't clear up with a food change then I would suggest getting an allergy test done by the vet. Food is only one source of potential allergens, but it is the easiest to rule out. It could be anything from pollen, to fleas, to grass, etc.

Personally I would not do a slow transition when you are trying to rule out a food allergen. I would fast for half a day to clear the puppies system out. Dont feed dinner then start with the new food cold turkey in the morning. If you do a slow transition, you could have good stools, but you would end up taking quite some time to resolve if it is a good allergy or not. Food allergies are caused by a the immune system misfiring and attacking the proteins of an ingredient labeling it as harmful. It can take some time for the body to "detox" and you often wont be able to see in a day or two if the exclusion diet is working. It will normally take a week or so to see noticeable changes.

Oats are definitely a grain, but not often the cause of allergies. The normal culprits are wheat and corn, but if you want to be safe you can find duck or lamb (normally not allergens) and potato or pea based kibble.
 
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musicdeb

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Iymala said:
If it does't clear up with a food change then I would suggest getting an allergy test done by the vet. Food is only one source of potential allergens, but it is the easiest to rule out. It could be anything from pollen, to fleas, to grass, etc.

Personally I would not do a slow transition when you are trying to rule out a food allergen. I would fast for half a day to clear the puppies system out. Dont feed dinner then start with the new food cold turkey in the morning. If you do a slow transition, you could have good stools, but you would end up taking quite some time to resolve if it is a good allergy or not. Food allergies are caused by a the immune system misfiring and attacking the proteins of an ingredient labeling it as harmful. It can take some time for the body to "detox" and you often wont be able to see in a day or two if the exclusion diet is working. It will normally take a week or so to see noticeable changes.

Oats are definitely a grain, but not often the cause of allergies. The normal culprits are wheat and corn, but if you want to be safe you can find duck or lamb (normally not allergens) and potato or pea based kibble.
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Slow transition not only helps with diarrhea but helps the digestive system to adjust to the new food. It's highly recommend to do the slow transition to help the pup.
 
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musicdeb

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Iymala said:
I will agree to disagree. I do not think that is the best decision in every situation.
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It's all good...I agree to disagree. That's what great about this forum, you can post your opinion and others can take it or leave it with no hard feelings.
 
Iymala

Iymala

Well-Known Member
Canagan Scottish Salmon Grain Free Dog Food

Canagan Country Game Grain Free Dog Food

(reminds me a lot of Orijen. Very nice ingredients but pricey)

Orijen Adult 6 Fish: Great Deals on ORIJEN Dog Food at zooplus

(speaking or Orijen)

Acana Pacifica Dry Dog Food: Great selection at zooplus
(same company that makes Orijen but not as expensive, lower meat content. They have a variety of grain free chicken free flavors you can rotate)

Nutrivet looked nice but has chicken fat/oils

Purizon Adult Fish: Free P&P on orders £25+ at zooplus!
nice fish formula
 
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