Raw diet - photo dump!

[Ghostsword]

We always cooked the onions , greens and carrots, made a nice vegie paste with them. Our gsd's were very healthy.

I left the force in 96, so will ask the units what are they feeding to the dogs now.

Regarding the calves being with parasites it would be the same if I feed them venison, right? The idea of freezing for a couple of weeks is good. The plan would to get a calf a month, cut it into pieces and freeze in individual bags, taking a bag daily to feed the dog at night.

How much meat for a 40kg dog?


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[allformyk9s]

Personally I would freezer the venison prior to feeding as well.

Thats what approx. 88 lbs ... so on the low end 2% you'd want to feed 1.75 lbs (0.79 kg) or on the high end at 3% - 2.64 lbs (1.19 kg). I started my dogs on the low end w/ 2% & they have all held their wt nicely. So you can start on the low end & then adjust according to the dogs activity level

 

[ruthcatrin]

Recommended is about 2 - 3 % of the dogs body weight, though highly active dogs, growing pups and pregnant/nursing mothers need more, how much more depends on the dog, I'd start at the 2-3% and go up if they need more to maintain body weight. I know for growing pups they recommend up to 10% of the pup's body weight.

Onions are bad, but small amounts aren't toxic. I'm just not sure what the actual toxic amount is, so don't go overboard with them!

 

[Ghostsword]

We use to have 4 onions for 12 dogs for one week. Unless I am mistaken, was so long ago. The green paste was greens, carrots and I think onions.

Have asked the unit for what they give now, and what we gave in the early 90s.

If the dogs don't need veggies I will not bother with them. will read on it. I cannot imagine wolves eating carrots.


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[ruthcatrin]

Well, there's arguments for and against them. I don't feed vegi's though I will offer a carrot as a chew toy occasionally. It makes a big mess though lol.

 

[Ghostsword]

We had about 120 dogs on the unit and all were feed vegies, they had no issue with that, but would like to know if there is a better way.

Wolves would eat the insides of grazers and with it vegetable matter.


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[angelbears]

Actually, there is great debate as to if wolves ate the stomach content or left it. The reason that I exclude vegies, is that dogs don't have the enzyme, amylase. Amylase is found in saliva of herbivores, it helps break down vegies as we are chewing them.

 

[Smart_Family]

Yea we feed veggies on occasion but only as a snack because we will be seeing them out the other end in a few short hours. The first couple times we fed carrots, the orange poop was quite a surprise haha.

 

[allformyk9s]

Ditto to Angelbears - dog can eat veggies sure but they dont digest/break them down. I might try giving Rhys a carrot, his teething is out of control & a fake rubber bone isnt cutting it for him :lolbangtable: And I agree on the debate on whether or not wolves eat the stomach contents - Ive read articles that have said both s its interesting.

Ghostword - you want to feed 2-3% of the dogs ideal adult wt, be it its an adult or a puppy. Im guesstimating Rhys will be about 80 lbs when he's done growing & Im feeding him about 1 1/2 lbs a day broken up into 2 meals - was doing 3 times a day but he flat out refuses the mid day meal. And Ive heard you could feed 10% of the puppy's/puppies current wt but *I* think its easier to feed 2-3% of adult wt so you're not constantly having to figure out how much to feed.

Found this online:
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You`ll want to start with 2-3% of your dog's (or puppy's) ESTIMATED IDEALADULT Weight. Tweak with more meat if your dog gets a bit skinny, a bit less ifyour dog gets 'fluffy' over the space of a few weeks."​

 

[Smart_Family]

When we had puppies teething, I used to buy cheapo washcloths at walmart, soak them in water and then freeze them. They loved chewing on them, you just have to watch them when they start tearing them apart obviously so they don't swallow any washcloth. Then I'd wash them and repeat!

 

[allformyk9s]

Thats a great idea, wouldnt have thought of that ... going to hit up the store today & hook my mouthy monster up! Thanks

 

[Ghostsword]

Thanks for all the tips.

To a puppy of large dog would 1kg of meat be enough and should it be minced? If the adult reaches 40kg, 2% is about 1kg, right?

Years ago I was into Great Danes having bought one puppy to keep as a pet. A neighbor of a friend had two large females and a couple of massive puppies.

I asked her how her dogs were so large as she was kinda poor, how did she feed them all. She said she didn't feed the large females. The dogs lived outside and hunted cats and small dogs, rabbits and rats. I did not believed it until I saw them in action.


Never visited her again, that was too weird, also reported her to the police and was told that her dogs kept the streets clean. Crazy.

Can't get rawer than that!


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[OdeMX]

OdeMX - adopted Ty (and Tucker, they're litter mates) from a local animal shelter - we *think* he's a plot hound mix by his coat markings & he fits the personality description to a T. He was mostly black when he was a pup & the brindle has slowly spread, I'll post some puppy pics of him for you to see

I would really appreciate that, tomorrow imma go looking for a couple working dogs, I'll give a pic of Ty to my handyman so he gets and idea of what I'm looking for and I save time =D

 

[allformyk9s]

Ghostword, you do not need to mince it, your pup/dog should be able to handle the meat/bone no problem. With switching if he/she is being picky there are several things you can do - like making cuts in the meat so its easier for him/her to pull off the bone, you can sear the meat for a quick minute and then sear less & less until he/she is taking it completely raw.

40kg is approx. 88 lbs .. so 2% of 88 would be 1 3/4 lbs OR 0.79 kgs of meat.


OdeMX, going to make a new thread w/ Ty's baby pictures for you in the photo album forum ​

 

[Ghostsword]

Manu thanks, will do so.

Need to get one of those books for more ideas, just in case. although there is a lot of information here already.


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[allformyk9s]

Anytime & there are quite a few of us here if you ever have anymore questions, feel free to ask Good luck!

 

[ruthcatrin]

Ghostsword, don't be afraid to adjust the quantity if the the dog starts getting to thin or chubby, its not a hard and fast rule because different dogs with different activity levels may need more or less. But yes, starting at the 2% mark is a good place to go from.

 

[Fixer]

This one took him the longest time to start into. Goats head, complete.



Reilly chowing on a whole chicken


Djouli eating a frozen Beef Heart



I don't recall and can't quite tell. He doesn't care what I call it



I'm still looking for pictures of the lambs head or the whole cow stomach.

 

[Ghostsword]

That is a lovely dog. Is it a tibetan mastiff? Looks like a bear.


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[Ghostsword]

Ghostsword, don't be afraid to adjust the quantity if the the dog starts getting to thin or chubby, its not a hard and fast rule because different dogs with different activity levels may need more or less. But yes, starting at the 2% mark is a good place to go from.

Thanks... Will for sure try it.


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