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Winter's Cinder

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Cute pic, but I wouldn't be allowing the puppy to claim your infant child's space like that. That's how kids end up getting bit and dogs end up getting put down. I'm not too concerned with how u take this. I'm more concerned with the safety of your child and pup.


Carpe Diem
We have been working with her on not leaning or getting in our space... and we are also working to train our children to stay out of her space... its much harder to get the kids to understand this!!


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marke

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Cute pic, but I wouldn't be allowing the puppy to claim your infant child's space like that. That's how kids end up getting bit and dogs end up getting put down. I'm not too concerned with how u take this. I'm more concerned with the safety of your child and pup. Carpe Diem
kids get bit when dogs and kids don't know how to interact with each other ........ they learn to interact with each other through supervised interaction ............ I got a ton of pics just like those of me and my brother with dogs , and my kids with dogs ........ my kids were raised in a house full of puppies and dogs , they are now adults , not one of them , nor me or my brother were ever bitten by one of our dogs , we must have gotten lucky ................. it looks to me the kid is being respectful to the pup , that's how kids learn , that is the biggest deal from my perspective ....... personal space ???? all I can say is the dog and the kid better be accustomed to having their "personal space" violated , at least the dog , if they're not , i'd say that's a recipe for a bite .........
 

season

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Well said and good for u. But luck has nothing to do with it. Being proactive and diligent in creating rules and boundaries for both kids and dogs means everything. Not everyone gets it. Too many examples of the bad stuff happening. That's why I supplied some valuable information.


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marke

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hopefully the person is not new to dog and gets scared from your advice and doesn't let her kid interact with her puppy ........ I've seen plenty of unmistakably inappropriate pics of kids and dogs , kids grabbing adult dogs ears , faces , climbing on sleeping dogs , going by an eating dogs face ........... these pics are not even remotely wrong ...... as far as letting the pup explore and take interest in the kid , i'd hope they continue ........... my advice to anyone who ever got a pup from me that had kids , or was getting a new baby , has been to make sure the dog sees that kid as nothing but good things /nothing but fun to be around...... I assure you when you get the dog/pup to get a bad feeling when the kid is around , you got a dangerous situation ........... puppies and adult dogs are not mentally the same ............
 

season

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I never said don't let your kid interact with the dog. I'm simply offering some insight and perspective. Not trying to "scare" anyone. But there are plenty of examples of ppl who should have spent more time raising their pup and kids to live appropriately together. Simple as that.


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season

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I'm sure the owner who took these pics thought it was "cute" too. And many onlookers who thought the same. Again, if u have experience with dogs and kids, great. Keep doing what you're doing. If not, don't err on the side of "cuteness". Err on the side of caution.
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season

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And if my advice "scares" anyone then that's not my problem. My advice shouldn't scare anyone. It's like telling someone to not let their kids run out in traffic cause they might get hit by a car. Common sense goes a long way. And if my advice helps offer some perspective then great. If not no hair off my head. Love your dogs all u want. Offer all the affection you can muster. Just make sure it's in balance with solid groundwork of rules, boundaries, limitations. And make sure the kids and adults are all on the same page as far as how u live with the dog. Simple as that.


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cinnamon roll

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When I bring a puppy home, or will molest in ever way possible. I will hold paws, grab the tall, put my hands in their mouth etc. I need to know that if a child accidentally falls on the (lord knows I've done it) I want to know that I can trust my dog not to be startled. I will also take food out of his bowl, toys out of his mouth. As I don't tolerate resource guarding. And when I feel comfortable my kids will do they same thing
 

season

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When I bring a puppy home, or will molest in ever way possible. I will hold paws, grab the tall, put my hands in their mouth etc. I need to know that if a child accidentally falls on the (lord knows I've done it) I want to know that I can trust my dog not to be startled. I will also take food out of his bowl, toys out of his mouth. As I don't tolerate resource guarding. And when I feel comfortable my kids will do they same thing

I do the same thing. But just because our dogs allow us to do it doesn't mean they will be hip to a child doing it. All comes down to work.


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season

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I even take Solo to school with me to teach my students how to be respectful of a dog's space. To build trust and leadership skills. Also helps teach Solo how to be respectful of others space. It's all a learning experience and we can't expect dogs or kids just to figure it out without our leadership.


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season

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Bottom line. We create our dog's value system. It's not hard to get dogs and kids and adults to live in peaceful harmony. But it takes work. Not luck.


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marke

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Carpe Diem
it takes the right work , if you do it wrong it doesn't matter how hard you worked at it ............ if you'd have posted your advice to the person who posted those pics , i'd have never replied ....... what they're doing there is senseless , with that young baby , even with that pup , possibly injurious ...... finding pics and videos of inappropriate and downright dangerous behavior between kids and dogs on the internet is pretty easy , "winter's cider" pics weren't them ..... possibly "winter's cider" needed such a scare , but their pics didn't denote that .... as far as personal space , and puppies , I personally find the thought ridiculous , and most likely detrimental ........ "no hair off your head" didn't you say you were bald ?????? here's one for you , this baby is possibly a split second away from being seriously hurt , or worse ......that's not a look I trust on my dogues , way to interested .
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season

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Pics don't always tell the story. I honestly don't like any pics of dogs and babies/children "cuddled up" but that's just me. I also don't like pics of circus clowns but that's a hole other story.


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NYDDB

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here's one for you , this baby is possibly a split second away from being seriously hurt , or worse ......that's not a look I trust on my dogues , way to interested .
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I agree with you on this one, marke. I have seen this photo floating around FB for awhile now, and it's always made me feel uneasy. Having a DDB that is pretty much bomb-proof when it comes to humans, of all ages ( very tolerant of the stupidest behavior from people...not so much with other canines, but that's another story), still....there is something about the intensity of this Dogue that really bothers me...that I don't quite trust. The infant is left vulnerable- and all it takes is a split second...
 

season

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I agree with you on this one, marke. I have seen this photo floating around FB for awhile now, and it's always made me feel uneasy. Having a DDB that is pretty much bomb-proof when it comes to humans, of all ages ( very tolerant of the stupidest behavior from people...not so much with other canines, but that's another story), still....there is something about the intensity of this Dogue that really bothers me...that I don't quite trust. The infant is left vulnerable- and all it takes is a split second...

And that could be said about any pic u see a dog and a baby/child together in what owners think is "cute". Pics are subjective but the stats on dog bites and dogs being put down are not. Those numbers don't lie. For every "cute" pic (wether we think it's safe or not) there is a story about a dog biting a child or adult and those same ppl claiming they never saw it coming. I love looking at pics as much as the next person. I know what I'm doing when it comes to keeping my dog safe. Many don't.


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