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How mad would you be??

dvdman

Well-Known Member
I about to go to a good breeder an hour away and pick up this unbelievable looking fawn Mastiff. Breeder is 14 yrs breeding EM. How pissed off would you be if your wife/husband , partner, living companion brought home an English mastiff after saying no? I am just wondering so i know what to expect on Monday. I have a Wife and 2 little kids. Wife doesnt want a big dog and kids( 6 and 8) are dying to get an EM.
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
She'll get over it. ;)
Plus the couch will be that much warmer with a puppy!
 

dpenning

Well-Known Member
Tread very lightly! My husband didn't want another big dog after I lost my last newf. I waited until he gave in for marital harmony and the sake of the dog. Big dogs are messy, expensive and take a lot of work. Who is going to clean the drool strings off the walls, wash the dog, feed the dog, scoop the poop and keep the house clean? If I had gotten one before my hubby bought in, he would have spent all his time in the dog free part of the house and we all would have been miserable. Ultimately I would have gotten rid of the dog to get my husband back. Now that I have his buy in, he got as excited as I was during the search and the new baby EM comes home Dec 17th.

IMO it is much better to have buy in of everyone in the house before you take such a large step.
 

dvdman

Well-Known Member
Her little yorkie died and she got a shithzu right away. She promised my dog would be next which would of been any real dog weighing more than 10 lbs. I didnt get it. I have had 138lbs rots and shepards growing up. I would walk and clean up after the dog. I just bought my first real car a BMW 335 in 2009
And I put it up for sale this week. I'm looking for a SUV so I can take the dog with me when I go places.
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
It depends. If I was the one home all day doing the house training, feeding, cleaning up after, etc I'd be pissed. It's hard to resist a mastiff pup though!
 

dvdman

Well-Known Member
We both work but I wouldnt get home till 6pm and she gets home around 4pm . She just doesnt want a big dog.....that will change. I hope...
 

Smart_Family

Dog Food Guru
People have a lot of misconceptions about big dogs. I grew up with Shepherds so I always liked bigger dogs. Even today I'm not a fan of small dogs but I have my reasons for that. Hopefully, having a big dog from a puppy and seeing it grow before her eyes and before it has any bad habits your wife will grow to love it.
 

dvdman

Well-Known Member
People have a lot of misconceptions about big dogs. I grew up with Shepherds so I always liked bigger dogs. Even today I'm not a fan of small dogs but I have my reasons for that. Hopefully, having a big dog from a puppy and seeing it grow before her eyes and before it has any bad habits your wife will grow to love it.

That's what I am hoping for or ill be sharing the floor with my new dog...
 

Bentley

Well-Known Member
You need to make sure the puppy gets a really big, comfortable bed 'cause I reckon you might be sharing it for a while.
 

Bantu

Banned
That's what I am hoping for or ill be sharing the floor with my new dog...

Dogs matter more than people. Don't worry what the spouse thinks just do what is in your heart. Get the dog and let it sleep in the bed and kick her out. Bottom line is dogs have short lives let it live the best life possible. When it dies then allow your spouse back in the bed.
 

northernmastiff

Well-Known Member
I don't know you wife but I would be livid if my husband brought home another animal without discussing it as a family first and while I would eventually warm up, there would always be that little part of me that would get frustrated when something happened such as the dog having an accident in the house, etc. Everyone in the house should agree on whether a dog is coming home or not.

If you both agree on a dog, then let her know that it is your time to choose a dog breed. My husband and I did that 8 years ago and while I love the dog that he did bring home, I would never go out and purchase a Lab on my own...he has decided that Petey is the last lab he will ever own as well as I have converted him to bigger dogs.

Surprising your spouse with a dog could lead to a number of problems, one being the dog being rehomed and the other is your wife always picking up that thread whenever you get into a fight. :) If she wants a dog, then discussing what you want as well as what the kids want and then following through that you are the only one who will be doing the grunt work, then she will be much happier and the puppy won't receive a cold reception coming home. (Note, I don't know if your wife would do that and I usually melt within minutes of seeing a new puppy but I have known people who will give the cold reception...even to a puppy.)
 

aphayes96

Well-Known Member
Well, my Dad brought home strays every now and then growing up and Mom always acted as though it was a nuisance... and they all ended up being "her" dogs. Ha. If your wife truly loves dogs I think she'll be ok. I think it's best to plan a new puppy with the whole fam but I'll admit I saved and rehomed about 7 dogs while in CA and my husband ,while not being too happy with it or me (considering I always had them neutered and it was pricey for a temp doggie), always loved those dogs. ;) I think a permanent doggie is a bit more challenging for someone to "deal with". I'm guessing that if you truly thought it would be a strain on your marriage (in a real sense) you wouldn't do it. Just make sure you do ALL the puppy pick up and maintenance, at least for a while! Good luck! I hope you all love your new addition and post pics asap!!! A Mastiff puppy is the sweetest thing ever! :)
 

Skilly

Well-Known Member
I was in a similar situation although we both agreed years ago that our next dog would be an EM. When I nearly lost my Rotty at age 7 to a Addisonian crisis (and his first diagnosis of Addison's disease) we suddenly realised that our dog was "old" as far as big dogs go, and now that he was on 10 tablets a day just to keep him alive, we knew that our time with him waslimited. We spoke about what would happen if and when we lost him, and I told DH that I didn't want to be without a dog for very long. For one thing he didn't get home until nearly midnight, and I prefer the security of a dog to alert me to things, and for another my dog was my hobby - I did obedience and agility training with him and trialling every month, which I loved. WIth a dud knee there isn't much sport I can get involved in so a dogless life isn't fun. Luckily, my Rotty handled the treatment well and continued to thrive for the next 3 years until he got cancer, and could not be operated on due to the Addison's Disease, so it was a rather sudden goodbye.


Our son was just 4 months old so DH said he didn't want another dog for at least 6 months. My search for a new dog only went as far as finding more about the breed. My son is now turning 6 next week and we still don't have a dog. I have been asking about it for a few years now, and he just wouldn't buyt in, using the excuse that our son was too young, then we had our daughter (who is now almost 3) and he said she was too young. I decided enough was enough as my son is now afraid of dogs and I always wanted my children to grow up with dogs. So I started looking seriously at the beginning of this year. I sent a breeder an email asking about the time frame for a puppy and she sent me photos of pups that were available right away. I chickened out knowing that DH wasn't ready and I hadn't told him I was looking so I didn't go aheadwith a purchase. I thought that if I could just present him with all the information he would come around. Unfortunately he saw the email with photos and assumed I had already bought a dog and was fuming. As much as a dog is an important part of your life, it is better to bring it into a home where it is completely welcome. That way the dog has every opportunity to settle in, gain attention and love from everyone in the household with no annimousity (it isn't the dog's fault) and more likely to be in it's forever home when it joins your household. Even in my situation where my husband has insisted no dog for the past 6 years after promiosing that "we wouldn't be dogless very long" I couldn't go all the way to bringing a dog home if I couldn't be sure it would be completely welcome.

I have now convinced him that even though our daughter isn't 6 (he seems to think children need to be 6 to have a big dog around) that we are ready for a new dog. He wasn't happy at first when I told him that I had been speaking with breeders and a dog might be available soon, but I soon caught him discussing names with the kids and telling me he looks forward to having a dog around. Now I just hope our puppy gets healthy so we can finally welcome him home! (Issues with bowed legs atm - covered in the health and nutrition area).
 

Cody

Well-Known Member
I have to agree with Northern Mastiff here.
"Surprising" your spouse with a dog, a VERY large dog, that she doesn't want is a recipe for disaster in my opinion.
To have a large working breed dog, EVERYONE in the house has to be on board. They require a huge amount of work and dedication, every one needs to participate in.
If it back fires the consequences will be bad. Does the breeder know that your wife is unaware of the potential pup coming home?
 

AKBull

Super Moderator
Staff member
Well since everyone is being all grown up about their responses, I'll redo my response. :)

My wife actually didn't want anything to do with a big "drool face" dog. Nothing. So I started to stage pictures up on my computer screen of little Bullmastiff puppies. Or I'd watch a video of them playing while she was near. After a few weeks of this she was primed for me throwing out some serious litter inquires. "Oh baby, this girl just had some puppies, looooook!" lol I'm such a little kid about these things. Once she knew how much this would mean to me, and viewing how cute the pups are, she caved in. Now she's saying things like "I wouldn't want anything else, except maybe a pug"... err. Right. I had to pour it on strong because there aren't any breeders with pups up here, it'd be a significant investment.
Main thing is to let them know how much this would be to you. Repeatedly. To the point they will let you have anything to shut you up.
 

Bantu

Banned
I have to disagree with everyone in this thread. You are all selfish. I think you should get the foot if its in your heart to do so. Dogs will be there for you, people won't. It's foolish to choose a human over dogs!
 

Dogue

Well-Known Member
recipe for disaster and you soon be droping your EM at a shelter or trying to find a foster. Keep working on her and take her to the breeder so that she falls in love with the puppies.
 

Marrowshard

Well-Known Member
I had to do a LOT of work on my husband to get him to go with Oscar. He was a narrow sell on Ebony (BM) and knew Oscar (EM) would be even bigger. I did something similar to what AKBull did: I pulled up Wiki pages, breeder sites, etc. when he was in the room and would point out how NO honey they weren't used for fighting and YES they get big but look how many sources say they're mellow couch potatoes. I enumerated the many advantages to adopting Oscar, then backed off for a solid two weeks to let him think it over. In the end, perseverance and Oscar's personality won him over but I would hate to think what would have happened if I'd just brought him home one day unannounced.
I think as long as you're agreed to get *a* dog, it'll be possible to bring your wife around (better than her not wanting another dog, period).

~Marrow
 

Tibleti

Well-Known Member
Our EM is actually my husband (Trey's) dog. Trey started by pointing out that I have my dog and he is 9 years old (the EM is 10 months old). He went on to point out that each of the kids has his or her own pet (cat and hamster). That was using the fairness discussion. He then went through with all the research and made sure to include me when he found information, good or not so good. He was honest, even if he knew what he found would make me uneasy. Then, to ease some of the concern, he had me help him search out breeders that we could both agree on. He made sure to check with me on each step and to talk with me about it when there was something I was not comfortable with. I am a stay at home mom, so I actually am the one with the EM most of the time. We have had to compromise on some things, but it has all worked out very well (although the hole the puppy ate in the wall the other day left me less than pleased). You and your wife both must understand that compromise is NOT a four letter word. Each person needs a companion that makes him or her happy, but that companion cannot, literally or figuratively, walk all over the other spouse (physically or emotionally). And, as with all pets, love and a sense of humor are going to be needed.
 

Bantu

Banned
I had to do a LOT of work on my husband to get him to go with Oscar. He was a narrow sell on Ebony (BM) and knew Oscar (EM) would be even bigger. I did something similar to what AKBull did: I pulled up Wiki pages, breeder sites, etc. when he was in the room and would point out how NO honey they weren't used for fighting and YES they get big but look how many sources say they're mellow couch potatoes. I enumerated the many advantages to adopting Oscar, then backed off for a solid two weeks to let him think it over. In the end, perseverance and Oscar's personality won him over but I would hate to think what would have happened if I'd just brought him home one day unannounced.
I think as long as you're agreed to get *a* dog, it'll be possible to bring your wife around (better than her not wanting another dog, period).

~Marrow

He must be of below average intelligence if you had to explain they weren't used for fighting.