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Help with skin allergies

I am asking for suggestions/advice regarding my 3 yr old OEM. He is an unaltered male with a super disposition and temperament. His problem is a severe skin allergy. At first the problem appeared seasonal, but this year. it started late and is NOT going away. He has in the past been on prednisone, anti-biotics and medicated shampoos and conditioners. He also has IBS and has been on Flagel and prevacid for that. The prescriptions for the skin problems have helped in the past but...not this time. His skin allergy manifests itself as little pustules that erupt and scab over. These sores do bleed and they also kill the hair follicles. The medicated shampoo and conditioner help relieve the redness and itching but only temporarily, for a few days at best. We have changed his diet to try and rule out food allergies.He is currently on Blue Buffalo, salmon and oatmeal formula. He is also recently been started on Fish oil supplements. His vet was going to try Stem Cell therapy but after getting our hopes up, changed his mind due to the dogs size ( a healthy 235lb.s, NOT fat) The vet has run out of ideas.

Has anyone encountered this problem before or have any advice? Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
 

leelee

Well-Known Member
Have you had him checked for a yeast infection? A lot of times vets diagnose it as a food allergy but it's actually a yeast infection. Especially if there's a history of antibiotics. Have them do a skin scraping to rule it out.
 
Thanks for the reply and yes, they did a scraping last year. A new development is he has what looks like dirt or mud in his drool, especially in the AM. He leaves a lot of it in his water dish. I think his problems may be internal. We have decided our next move is to see a K9 dermotologist.
 

Tunride

Well-Known Member
Have you tried changing food? Our "Tied-to-a-Tree" rescue had the IBS and itchy skin. After several tries, we switched to a Lamb/rice food and she cleared up. She cannot have beef or chicken food. Hope you find something to help the poor baby.
 
I found a dealer for NUSTOCK about 30 minutes north of where we live. We are driving up this weekend to get a tube. Thank you VERY much
for the suggestion.:)
 

Marrowshard

Well-Known Member
Dirt/Mud in the drool? Digested or clotted blood can be black or brown, but I'm also wondering if it's plant matter. There are a lot of plants toxic to dogs, some of which cause dermatitis, and this time of year (here in WI at least, not sure about where you are) there's a lot of decaying plant material on the ground where there's no snow. Is it possible your dog is getting into some leaf debris outside? I know our EM takes a drink after being outside and leaves little flecks of dirt and detritus in the bowl when he's done.
Things like Chamomile, Geranium, and a lot of other ornamental/herbal flowers and shrubs can cause dermatitis (ulcerative, photosensitive, contact, etc.) so if there's a chance your boy's gotten into plant debris you might want to look into toxicity. There's a pretty nice list of toxic plants at the ASPCA's website >>HERE<<. Let us know what you find out!

~Marrow
 
We live in western PA and he is not much a grazer. The black drool seems to appear mainly in the mornings. Last night I gave him a benadryl as he was scratching way more than usual and it seemed to quiet him down. When I woke uo this morning, there was blood on both sides ofg his face from him scratching. We are going to try the NuStock this weekend and hopefully see a dermatologist next week.
 

SunnieGe

New Member
Has anyone mentioned to you about pyoderma? Read what Robin M. Smith, DVM has online about it. About the black or dark gray drools: My dog has the black drools, I did notice my daughter's dog having them first, so it seems as though it passes on between mastiffs, the boston terriers don't/hasn't got it. my vet isn't concerned about dark drools, dark pigment in gums around teeth and dark spot on tongue, but I think it has has something to do with the pyoderma. you might notice, where your dog can lick, those areas will get darker pigment. Hope this helps (even though we don't know what the black drools are about). BPO3 shampoo is a good shampoo for my dog. online is less than half price, do a search for BPO3 gallon for best price if you find it's what your dog needs. for my piece of mind, I'm going to have his drool analyzed to make sure there's no mold, and if it does have mold, then where the heck did he get it from, dog food, water supply? I wash out their bowls after every meal, just like my own plates. BTW, iodine shampoo and a different fungus shampoo only made my dog's pyoderma worse (my daughter's mastiff doesn't have, nor did have pyoderma).
 
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LadyDogLover

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This is a semi- old thread, but you said you give your dog 1 Benadryl. The dosage should be 1 to 2.2 milligrams per pound of body weight. When needed my Neo receives 12 tabs for a total of 300mg. Please be careful with the prednisone. It should not be discontinued abruptly if one has been taking it for a while.
Dried blood from the mouth...
Dark red or black dried blood from the mouth or rear doesn't sound good to me. I'm glad you're going to have it analyzed...
The thought crossed my mind that it may be fecal matter...hope it isn't though. Good Luck..
 
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lolisnme

Active Member
I use apple cider vinegar. It keeps her skin nice, shiny coat, flea-free, and its 100% natural and cheap!

Research the traditional use of ACV because I use it personally and use it for dogs and horses too.