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fostering 3 year intact male.. please talk CCs with me!!!

bullyhillmama

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hello, we have had a foster for 3 days now, he is almost 3 and still intact. i already own 2 female pitbulls and a female sheltie mix, so i was not seeking another dog, but (through a long chain of events) it came down to either me pulling him from the shelter or he was being euthed. so here we are :) he came from the BARCS shelter in Baltimore where he was a staff favorite. apparently he was in and out 4 times (irresponsible owners of him and 3 other mastiff type dogs, not adopted and returned). im going to try to stay brief, but i have a lot of things to ask about him!! firstly, here is what i like about him. despite being scared to death, undersocialized and still intact, he warmed up to my family and is very gentle, goofy, fun and loving with my husband and I. we have 3 kids, ages 8, 5 and 20 months, and when he interacts with them (on leash, supervised) he is gentle and not pushy. he is very smart, also. when i picked him up, i could barely muscle him to my truck!! but in just a few days he is walking beautifully at heel and no longer bum rushes me for the door on the way to potty. he had a slight URI and is on abx, so is "quarantined" from our dogs.because of this and where he is crated in our home, we go through 3 doors and a gate to get to his potty place. he will now pause at the door/gate and look to me to go first before following. he seems to be respectful of human boundaries, in that when he gets excited and jumps up, i will turn away and say "OFF!" and he will respect that and bounce happily at an appropriate distance. i was told that he was a shelter staff favorite, and was never aggressive, but when he was brand new here and terrified (he seems insecure) he was doing a good deal of growling while trying to look tiny and averting his eyes. he also barks at men. so no, i havent seen "agression", but i would like to make sure that his fear/growling does not escalate. i understand that being leery of strangers is common in mastiff breeds, but how do other CC owners deal with growling/barking? i dont allow it for my dogs, but it honestly hasnt been an issue. what ive been doing is sharply saying "AH!" to get his attention then praising him for looking at me. good? bad? other way to deal with it? the shelter also said he was great with other dogs. it will likely be a few weeks till he formally meets my girls, but when he sees them from afar he seems interested and curious, not aggressive or upset. i was told today by a woman at the pet store that i have to "really watch him" because even if he seems "great at first" he will eventually become dog aggressive and potentially dangerous to the kids. now... i dont tend to pay heed to that sort of talk, as i live with pitbulls who i trust to the moon and back, while still being realistic about who they are and what their quirks are. my thoughts are that if we take it day by day, nip any obnoxious behavior in the bud, and continue to be firm yet gentle, we should be ok. am i being a naive idiot as the woman who told me this lead me to believe? also, i want to have him neutered, ASAP. but with him being so leery of strangers, im afraid he will misbehave if i leave him at the vets. do i let him settle in here more? how do i best help him to become social? i dont expect him to love all strangers, just to not act totally innappropriately. he is here on foster, but we already are smitten. i just want to do the best we can for him so that he will either be wonderful for us or help him to be a good pet for someone else. any advice you have to offer on the breed or our situation will be welcomed :) thanks for reading!!
 

mx5055

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I am still learning about my own cc pup, so I will let the experts answer your questions. Just wanted to welcome you to the forum, and thank you for giving this guy a safe place. Any pics? What is his name? I looked through a lot of the rescue/shelter sites in Baltimore when looking for my cc, but my kids were adamant about me getting a puppy so I would be the one doing the training and they would feel confident regarding my grandchildren's safety, so I ended up going to New Jersey to rescue a pup. Baltimore is certainly in sad shape regarding these giant breed dogs needing homes; thank God for the wonderful people committed to helping them :)
 

Mack's mommy

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I as well just got my first CC only a couple of weeks ago, so I am also still learning. But this is an awesome forum with nice people and lots of great information :) and I just wanted to say that I highly respect you for giving that baby boy a good and safe place to be. :)
 

Amanda F.

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Welcome! Thanks for taking him in :) Sounds like you are off to a good start with him. Corsi are terribly smart and will try to run things in a very sneaky way so you may not notice at first. lol It's good that he is responding to your commands already. I would say once he starts feeling better and has been at your house for a week or two, you will start to see his true personality come out. That doesn't mean that he will become an aggressive man/dog/kid eater, I am just stating (from my own exp.) that they tend to go with the flow at first and then start to test the rules. I would just keep on him. Start doing some basic obedience with him to create a bond and build his trust and confidence. Also take him out to socialize, with a muzzle if it makes you more comfortable. I wouldn't let people approach, just let him watch. My boys rarely growl at people and when they do, I assume there is a reason for it, I just haven't figured it out yet :) But being that you don't know his history I would play it safe at first and not do up close and personal meets with random people. I would love to see pics!! and thanks again for saving him :)
 

thelady_v2010

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I wouldn't think at 3 years old he would just suddenly become dog aggressive. But, I am also new to the breed. I think it is great that you rescuded him!
 

bullyhillmama

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his name at BARCS was "wolf", evidently the name he has had since birth but he doesnt respond to it at all. we renamed him Paxton, Pax for short :) he is a lovely black brindle with floppy, soft natural ears. they listed him as a mastiff mix, and in the past few days people guessed anything from dane/mastiff mix, rottie/lab/mastiff, mastiff/lab.. lol! but "dog people" have him pegged as a Cane. its amazing how the natural ears change their looks so much!! anybody else think "big ol lab" when they see a CC with floppy ears??
 

bullyhillmama

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also, how do i teach him "sit"??? i feel like a moron, as ive trained many a dog, but he wont do it. dangling a treat above his head just causes him to look up. pressing gently on his rump causes him to stiffen his rear end and legs. at this age, he doesnt even know his name, let alone any commands, so ive been trying to catch him in the process of sitting spontaneously and saying sit! sit! good boy! and tossing a tiny treat, but so far hes still not assosciating the word with the action. what am i missing??
 

mx5055

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also, how do i teach him "sit"??? i feel like a moron, as ive trained many a dog, but he wont do it. dangling a treat above his head just causes him to look up. pressing gently on his rump causes him to stiffen his rear end and legs. at this age, he doesnt even know his name, let alone any commands, so ive been trying to catch him in the process of sitting spontaneously and saying sit! sit! good boy! and tossing a tiny treat, but so far hes still not assosciating the word with the action. what am i missing??

Maybe he just needs a bit more time to settle into your house? Older dogs can sometimes be harder to rehome and get used to the new place? Maybe he needs more time to get use to you and bond with you? I am just guessing...hopefully others with more experience will chime in. I didn't crop Bella's ears (she is only 5 months so her look may very well change) and I haven't seen a sign of lab....nor do others when I take her out in public. Surprisingly, most people have actually asked me if she was some kind of mastiff dog. But, like I said...that could all change as she continues to grow :)
 

Cody

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Okay, the person at the pet store is a Flippin' IDIOT! Lol, My 8 year old son handles my 240lbs of CC just fine. They are respectful and and I trust them with my kids more then anyone outside our family. As we speak my son is reaching into our males mouth to take a ball. He has done a lot of training with our dogs and is in charge of the feeding. This is an extremely loyal and loving breed that would give it's life for their family. They do however take a while to adjust to their new homes and lives, give him some adjustment time. For the sitting have you tried holding the treat up in the air then stepping into him? Forcing him back and into a sit? They are easy to train once they understand what it is you are asking it shouldn't take long. Also once he is around the other dogs he will pick up on their training. I taught one of my pups in French, and my older dog watching now knows her commands in both languages. As for dog aggressive, I currently have 2 intact Corso, male (almost 2) and female (3.5) and both are fine with dogs. They have no dog aggression, can be taken anywhere and walked with my friends dogs no problem. That said I do NOT go to dog parks with them. The trouble with a Corso is, although most won't start a fight, they WILL finish it and the outcome will not be good for the other dog. A male at 3 is just coming into himself, but due to his past is probably seriously lacking in confidence. Redirecting his behavior is best, but again he may be very protective over you as he adjusts. I do not agree with growling or condone it, but be prepared that he may take a while to warm up to new people once he has adjusted. Oh and we love pictures!
 

DMikeM

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I thought Wolf from BARCS was a Boerboel mix???
Is this him? If so I understood he was not recommended for a family with children.
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DMikeM

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Same as I thought. Either BB or BB mix. Hard to say for sure. I had considered seeing if they would transport him out to Cali at one point but then someone rescued him.
 

bullyhillmama

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Yep, that's him! But honestly, those pictures do him no justice, and he looks nothing like a BB :/ as soon as I figure out the pics thing, I will add some! The first person who went to see him greatly missed the mark with his personality. I think much of it is that he wad taught no manners and was lunging/pulling all over, coupled with barking and growling at strangers. When I went to pick up "bear"to transport to foster (who was from the same previous owner), I talked to the dog guy at length about wolf. Once we discussed the situation, out was pretty clear he wasn't the hazard he was made out to be initially. Now that he had been brought under control on lead, he will watch passers by very carefully, but the growling and barking only happen if the person is very close. He isn't an out of control maniac :) how can I boost his confidence with strangers?
 

bullyhillmama

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And any input as to breed would be helpful! Like I said, I will post pics soon, but I really hope that figuring out what he is will be helpful to his rehabilitation and training. "bear"was also listed through boerboel rescue (but is a bull mastiff in reality). The females that were with them were boerboels for sure, I think that's why the boys were listed there, also. The shelter had him as a "mastiff mix".
 

bullyhillmama

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Oh, and yes, even the treat in the air and moving into his space just makes him back up... He seems so socially awkward, I'm housing due to their absolute lack of socialization?
 

DMikeM

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Take him out an socialize with people, try small groups or bring friends over. Stay in control at all times keep a leash attached even if it is a short one. Let him keep his instincts about people and introduce him to ones you know are safe. 2 or 3 years old can still be properly socialized.
 

jersey girl

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If he is a corso, they are aloof with strangers, so I wouldn't expect him to be a social butterfly. I would give him time to adjust to you and start to trust you. I would then expose him to as many different situations, sounds and people as possible. I wouldn't let strangers approach him for a while. I think enrolling him in a basic training class couldn't hurt. Thank you for rescuing him...sounds like he will have a great home.
 

bullyhillmama

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My standard protocol with new dogs is that they always drag a leash or tab leash in the house till I'm darn sure they have proven they don't need it any longer. Do you think that having strangers offer treats (tossed from afar) would help? Like "can I pet your dog?" "no, but here, toss him a cookie?" (assuming he's in a calm state of mind.. No cookies for acting a fool.. Lol)