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Ear crop question

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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@ Blackshadow...I think your Corso's crop is beautiful, but you can't really do such a short crop on a GM/GD. With GD's you really have to post and tape.

Thanks Hemi's is a little short but they don't look awful like some I have seen. I prefer Danae's length a little more.
 

Jadotha

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Oh, kk... I think it is difficult to give a 'firm' average as factors include the crop that is selected, how 'perfect' you want the outcome to be, the age of the puppy and the qualify of the ear cartilage. Again, I'm sure your vet can help you decide what would work best for your puppy and how long taping would take, given the other factors.

Puppies are remarkably adaptable. Ours spent a few hours getting used to the extra weight on their heads, but the next day you wouldn't have known anything was not perfectly normal -- they played, bounced around, explored, ate well and slept like logs :)

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Jadotha

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@ Blackshadow

When we were looking at CCs, I preferred the really short crop with a bell and a little tip. But, I thought the longer crop worked really well for some.
Do you have some pictures of Danae?
 
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Duetsche_Doggen

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Oh, kk... I think it is difficult to give a 'firm' average as factors include the crop that is selected, how 'perfect' you want the outcome to be, the age of the puppy and the qualify of the ear cartilage. Again, I'm sure your vet can help you decide what would work best for your puppy and how long taping would take, given the other factors.

Puppies are remarkably adaptable. Ours spent a few hours getting used to the extra weight on their heads, but the next day you wouldn't have known anything was not perfectly normal -- they played, bounced around, explored, ate well and slept like logs :)

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Yes I will be sure to ask the vet but I enjoy personal experiences as well.

I always worry with surgery glad they seem to bounce back. :D
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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@ Blackshadow

When we were looking at CCs, I preferred the really short crop with a bell and a little tip. But, I thought the longer crop worked really well for some.
Do you have some pictures of Danae?

She is the big black brindle girl :)

http://www.mastiff-forum.com/showthread.php/4661-Conformation-Show-Pics?highlight=danae

and some better shots of her are here...

http://www.mastiff-forum.com/showth...rrae-amp-U2-de-Italica-Terrae?highlight=danae

I don't like a high crop or too much bell but Hemi could have stood a touch more height.

We got a good crop on the puppies from last year that have turned out well too :) But with a vet that is very familiar with the breed and comes highly recommended since we can't do it in our province anymore :(
 

Jadotha

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Wow! She's gorgeous too!! I think that crop really accentuates her head; and looking at your website pics, I see what you mean about Hemi's benefiting from a just bit more height. But he'd be beautiful
(handsome ?) with no ears at all!

it can be difficult here in the states to find someone who can do a good Corso crop, too -- it IS an art form. A breeder we've gotten to know near us in Chicago cautioned us not to use anyone but a specific vet in downtown Chicago.

But I'm afraid I've derailed the thread! :eek:

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mastiffmedic

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When I was young I cropped both my pits ears, looking back I regret it and wouldn't do it again. Just my opinion but it's a painful and unnecessary procedure, dogs were born with ears and changing that strictly for cosmetic reasons is silly.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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Wow! She's gorgeous too!! I think that crop really accentuates her head; and looking at your website pics, I see what you mean about Hemi's benefiting from a just bit more height. But he'd be beautiful
(handsome ?) with no ears at all!

it can be difficult here in the states to find someone who can do a good Corso crop, too -- it IS an art form. A breeder we've gotten to know near us in Chicago cautioned us not to use anyone but a specific vet in downtown Chicago.

But I'm afraid I've derailed the thread! :eek:

Thanks! She's daddy girl but we are happy with how she turned out. Hemi is a beautiful girl :) but like I said she could use a touch more height on those ears but I like that there isn't too much bell. They are both beautiful and without ears they would still be stunning still but I do like the cropped look.

It is hard to find a good cropping person, these ears were done at my breeders so it was no effort on my part :) But it doesn't take much to have the ears messed up on these guys.

LOL! You are right... will stop hi-jacking now.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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LOL, its fine! Quite an interesting read. Blackshadow she's a beauty!

Like I mentioned I am not pushing it but if the option were there.
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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I have both cropped and un-cropped and I would pic cropped every time :) The look of a cropped corso (done correctly and by someone that knows what they are doing) is to me one of the most fantastic looking dogs :) But I might be a little bias ;) It isn't for everyone and I can appreciate it but I think everyone should have the choice and if you want it done then so be it.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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To be honest its hard not too, LOL I do prefer cropped look. :) I love a Neo with cropped if done correctly.

Even in the GD world I prefer cropped but with GM's some of the look better uncropped. I like Thor's ears even though some people called him elephant ears but I can't picture him cropped. Its hard to get right with GM's because of their substance, somtimes.
 

Jadotha

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Blackshadow...OOPS, sorry I referred to Hemi as "he', lol. SHE is gorgeous.:eek:

I prefer cropped in most breeds with whom breeders/devotees have worked over centuries to produce that look, and preserve their heritage. So I love a well cropped Dane, Neo, and Corso. However, I do think Thor's ears suit him, and we now have an IWH and EM who are obviously not cropped.

I strongly support everyone in whatever personal decision they make about cropping or not cropping their own dogs. :)
 
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NeoBull

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With Dobes in the US 90% of the reputable breeders will have them cropped before they go to new homes, many won't even sell an uncropped dog. Are there no US breeders you're interested in? At the least I would find a reputable Dobe or Dane breeder close by and find out who they use, you'll want to have the crop done early on a Dane especially, I'd say by 8 weeks, 10 weeks if you're ok with a shorter crop. You could email the local Dobe and Dane clubs in your area to ask for a recomendation too. I LOVE cropped Dobes and Danes, but there's NOTHING worse than a poor crop or crop and flop, so I'd have to go with a vet I trusted 100%, ask for a LOT of photo's of his/her work, cropping is an art!

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To be honest its hard not too, LOL I do prefer cropped look. :) I love a Neo with cropped if done correctly.

Even in the GD world I prefer cropped but with GM's some of the look better uncropped. I like Thor's ears even though some people called him elephant ears but I can't picture him cropped. Its hard to get right with GM's because of their substance, somtimes.[/QUOTE

The Neo is one of the few breeds I actually prefer un-cropped... I prefer cropped Dobermans, Danes, Giant Schnauzers, and Beaucerons, I can take it or leave it with Boxers, CC's, Dogos, Pits, and I actually prefer un-cropped Neos, I just feel like it goes with the rest of thier head better!
 

NeoBull

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To be honest its hard not too, LOL I do prefer cropped look. :) I love a Neo with cropped if done correctly.

Even in the GD world I prefer cropped but with GM's some of the look better uncropped. I like Thor's ears even though some people called him elephant ears but I can't picture him cropped. Its hard to get right with GM's because of their substance, somtimes.[/QUOTE

The Neo is one of the few breeds I actually prefer un-cropped... I prefer cropped Dobermans, Danes, Giant Schnauzers, and Beaucerons, I can take it or leave it with Boxers, CC's, Dogos, Pits, and I actually prefer un-cropped Neos, I just feel like it goes with the rest of thier head better!
 

BlackShadowCaneCorso

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Blackshadow...OOPS, sorry I referred to Hemi as "he', lol. SHE is gorgeous.:eek:

No worries, it happens :) She isn't very feminine and calling her Hemi doesn't help ;)

On some dogs if head proportions are off sometimes cropping can actually make a head look worse. But as a general rule I do prefer a cropped look on most breeds.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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With Dobes in the US 90% of the reputable breeders will have them cropped before they go to new homes, many won't even sell an uncropped dog. Are there no US breeders you're interested in? At the least I would find a reputable Dobe or Dane breeder close by and find out who they use, you'll want to have the crop done early on a Dane especially, I'd say by 8 weeks, 10 weeks if you're ok with a shorter crop. You could email the local Dobe and Dane clubs in your area to ask for a recomendation too. I LOVE cropped Dobes and Danes, but there's NOTHING worse than a poor crop or crop and flop, so I'd have to go with a vet I trusted 100%, ask for a LOT of photo's of his/her work, cropping is an art!

The Neo is one of the few breeds I actually prefer un-cropped... I prefer cropped Dobermans, Danes, Giant Schnauzers, and Beaucerons, I can take it or leave it with Boxers, CC's, Dogos, Pits, and I actually prefer un-cropped Neos, I just feel like it goes with the rest of thier head better!

No, I've been looking for a breeder almost 5 years now. :( I was planning a head long before after I got Thor, but the time was never right. Most of the stock that I like is overseas. There are some GM's here in the US but most are from breeders less than reptuable. Many are breeding reguardless of condition, temperament, and structure. So you have dogs with the same eye condition Thor does, overdone, overbreed, no health testing, no research of pedigrees. I'm not saying that all breeders do and that those overseas don't but the breeders I'm looking at do test their stock.

To me US GD don't appeal to me like the GM does. I don't think I've found a more "perfect" breed for my lifestyle and personality.

I know it looks horrible doesn't it and I feel bad for the dog. :( Again that was the first thing I thought of but like I mentioned the GD clubs were less than helpful I only recieved one response back and when I had another question I haven't heard anything since. This was like a month ago. Luckily browsing through the dobe forum I was able to get some leads.

I can do either or with the Neo but I would prefer cropped, Boxers and pits I like uncropped. Dogos and CC if they are working, especially the dogo, I crop is good.
 

Cody

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I prefer all breeds that were traditionally cropped cropped.
I wish we had done our boxer, I find they are much more regal in appearance when done.
I like GM's cropped, the few that I have seen, but it does seem to take a while to stand. I do prefer the longer crop on them as well. There is just something about them, so noble.
On CC I do prefer the shorter crop. But that is just my preference :)
 

Mickey48

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Mickey48

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I'm not a fan of cutting healthy body parts away just because of the owners phaenotypical prefences, but it might interests you that today's Ear cropping of Great Danes isn't the original and has not the practical functions cropping was done for, maybe it inspires you.
Here are pictures of Otto von Bismarck and his dogs, he declared Danes as the " Deutsche Reichshunde" ("German emperor dogs"):
Tyras II and Rebecca; 6. July 1891
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Dane and Dachshund, 1900
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portrait of Max Immelmann in his German military uniform posed with his dog "Tyras"; 1916
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