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Bloat question

mx5055

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Thanks for posting the info links DD, Very helpful, and I know how painful this whole subject must be for you. I'm sorry :(
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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Thanks Cindy. Believe it or not its not as bad as I thought it would be. If I can help other avoid what happen to me, that's more than enough. :)
 

Rugers-Kris

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I have tried everything with Ruger but he gets the zoomies BIG TIME right after he eats. He just bounces off the walls. Same thing with a bath....Nothing can be done, he gets really jazzed up.
What I do with new puppies is sit on floor with them after their meal if they run around (hank was active after eating) after eating, and I calm them down with slow strokes and calm voice, and in storms which we have had a few later I sit with them and calm them down just like after a meal. ( hank was also very scared of thunder). I'm not sure if it will work with a older dog . Put with puppies it works for me.
 

Sadies Mom

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AB, What about a pheromone collar?? Since spring storm season is here and weather is unpredictable, it could be hard to give the drops in time. The collars are at least always on the dog.
 

mx5055

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Thanks Cindy. Believe it or not its not as bad as I thought it would be. If I can help other avoid what happen to me, that's more than enough. :)

DD...Hoping I don't cause wounds to reopen, but I still have some questions regarding bloat since I have never had to deal with it and since it's so deadly I want to be prepared. What is the likelihood of a cc being affected with this? I have looked at the links you have posted, and read over, and over the instructions. I am a retired nurse who worked a lot of years in er, but I am scared too death of this and my ability to be able to perform this procedure if necessary? I am lucky in the fact that my vet is only 10 minutes from my house, and they are a 24 hour emergency operation too...but, what if I'm not home? Is there any way to "practice" this procedure so I am confident in my ability to handle this? I am a "hands on" person...they instructions alone about how to do it are not working for me and I am not feeling confident at all about possibly someday being in this position. Any advice?
 

angelbears

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AB, What about a pheromone collar?? Since spring storm season is here and weather is unpredictable, it could be hard to give the drops in time. The collars are at least always on the dog.

Wow, I just now saw this, sorry! I haven't even looked into them. Gives me something else to explore. Thank you.
 

Duetsche_Doggen

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DD...Hoping I don't cause wounds to reopen, but I still have some questions regarding bloat since I have never had to deal with it and since it's so deadly I want to be prepared. What is the likelihood of a cc being affected with this? I have looked at the links you have posted, and read over, and over the instructions. I am a retired nurse who worked a lot of years in er, but I am scared too death of this and my ability to be able to perform this procedure if necessary? I am lucky in the fact that my vet is only 10 minutes from my house, and they are a 24 hour emergency operation too...but, what if I'm not home? Is there any way to "practice" this procedure so I am confident in my ability to handle this? I am a "hands on" person...they instructions alone about how to do it are not working for me and I am not feeling confident at all about possibly someday being in this position. Any advice?

Cindy for bloat information regarding CC's I'd ask the breed veterans here. The condition is usually associated with dogs who posses a "large deep chest." Yet its still very possible for small breeds to bloat. With other conflicting information such as elevated feedings, rest before/after exercise prior to eating, genetics etc. Its hard to pinpoint. The usually top breeds are, Great Danes, Irish Wolfhounds, Borzoi, Boxers, Bassets, etc.

My first dane Duke did not show the usual signs for bloat, however one afternoon I noticed the extended abdomen. Without my intervention he corrected himself and his abdomen returned to normal. Never saw him do it again. Thor on the other hand, both times showed all the symptoms, plus the extended abdomen. The first time, like Duke, he corrected himself. The second incident, he did not, make it to the vets office in time. Thankfully both times I was home.....However..I'm afraid you should expect the worse if the condition occur, if you are not there. In most cases if a dog bloats the chances of surviving are at least 20% or less......Even with the option of surgery.

I've never used a bloat kit, and I've only seen one video that provided step by step instructions for administering the kit. I'm hands on too, lol :) If I find the video I will post it. As for practice I'm not sure but I think you can buy "doggy dummys" for medical practice.

I wish we had an e-vet that was close here. Since I moved further down south, my nearest e-vet is 1hr or so away.
 
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Duetsche_Doggen

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Read the owner's response first, but this gives you 3D idea of what bloat looks like.

[video=youtube;VG4fYmcNCdM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG4fYmcNCdM[/video]
 

ruthcatrin

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This is a video of a dog in late stage bloat. IT IS NOT PLEASENT TO WATCH, however the dog did survive. If you click through to the video on youtube there is additional information in the video comments. But basically the dog was in a new foster home and neither the transporter or the foster family had ever seen bloat before. He did NOT experience a twisted stomach, which is likely why he made it to the vet (where he was taken once they realized something more than stress was wrong), the voice over was added for informational purposes.

[video=youtube;U1WrT2719yo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1WrT2719yo&feature=player_embedded[/video]
 

mx5055

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Wow DD and Ruth. I have to admit to feeling very overwhelmed here. In all my years with Boxers this never came up....I guess I was lucky and ignorance really is bliss. Not even sure how to comment right now; I need some time to digest some of this before I can even formulate questions. Thank you both very much for the info.
 

fila4me

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This is a video of a dog in late stage bloat. IT IS NOT PLEASENT TO WATCH, however the dog did survive. If you click through to the video on youtube there is additional information in the video comments. But basically the dog was in a new foster home and neither the transporter or the foster family had ever seen bloat before. He did NOT experience a twisted stomach, which is likely why he made it to the vet (where he was taken once they realized something more than stress was wrong), the voice over was added for informational purposes.

[video=youtube;U1WrT2719yo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1WrT2719yo&feature=player_embedded[/video]
jesus, I am bawling like a baby.....I am sharing this...luckily I had an idea Flower was bloating when I saw these signs and took her right away.thank you for posting this.
 

ruthcatrin

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I've never personally dealt with bloat and it was hell to watch....but its something I think every dog owner ought to know how to ID, even if their breed isn't on the high risk list.
 

goetsch4

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Lincoln is the same way. As soon as he's done playing he wants to play. We spend the next 30 minutes trying to calm him down.

That's the problem I'm having with our new puppy. She goes crazy after she eats. I thought about trying to play first or are you suppose have them calm before too?