Beck Update

[Zundap]

Hi everyone, i am still having trouble with my dog Beck, he has been back to the Vets four more times since i last posted here and they still dont know what is causing the problem.

His recrtum has now prolapsed or partially prolapsed four more times since i last posted. I took him back in to the Vet again this morning and i am still waiting to hear from them.

If this latest attempt fails, the next and only option wil be an explanitory operation. The vet says they will have to open him up on a big scale, at that point if they can not see anything wrong they will stitch his rectum to the stomach lining which will have a greater chance of being a permanent cure, but its not certain. Fingers crossed again i guess.

 

[DMikeM]

Is this a good vet is there any reason you might want to check with another vet? What type of foods are you feeding and is Beck doing any type of strenuous activity?

 

[Hector]

Omgosh I'm so sorry. That must be tough on both the dog and the human and the pocketbook. My vet did tell me like what your vet said the bad thing about prolapsed rectum is that it will happen again. I really wonder if this genetically related. Where did you get this dog from? Hopefully the vets can fix the problem once and for all. Will permanently stitching the rectum to the stomach cause any pooping issues?

 

[musicdeb]

I would get a second opinion.

 

[Zundap]

Is this a good vet is there any reason you might want to check with another vet? What type of foods are you feeding and is Beck doing any type of strenuous activity?

My daughter actually thinks that this vet is ripping me off, and that may be the case, i understand why she feels that way but its not possible to prove it.

I am prety sure that other Vets wont accept him as a patient, or give me a report on him. The Vets in Britain tend to stick together.

I tried feeding him raw meat as you sugested, but it gave him the runs, so i had to go back to dry food. On Becks third visit the Vet told me to feed him a mix of Rice, eggs and chicken. I am at the moment slowly changing him back to his usual food.

If this latest operation fails, i have only two options, another operation which woluld be an exploritry operation to try and find the problem. If they see somnething wrong at that point, they will attempt to correct it. There would be no guarantee it would cure the problem and would leave him with a large scar along his stomach.

That operation would cost £700 minimum and i have already spent "£1600, i dont mind paying tyhe money, its just that no matter which way go or how much i spend, there is never a guarentee that he will be ok.

The only other option is putting him to sleep and i really dont want to do that.

 

[Zundap]

Omgosh I'm so sorry. That must be tough on both the dog and the human and the pocketbook. My vet did tell me like what your vet said the bad thing about prolapsed rectum is that it will happen again. I really wonder if this genetically related. Where did you get this dog from? Hopefully the vets can fix the problem once and for all. Will permanently stitching the rectum to the stomach cause any pooping issues?

Thanks for that Hector, coincidently the Vet did mention stitching the rectom to the stomach wall during the big operation. The out come, would be more likely to solve the problem, but again there would still be no guarantee of a permanent cure.

 

[Zundap]

I would get a second opinion.

I wish i could, but i am pretty sure no other Vet would take him on or give a second opinion.

 

[DMikeM]

Get him on the boiled or steamed rice, scrambled eggs and either boiled or raw chicken, no bones for a few days. This will basically reset his digestive tract and it is easy to pass through his intestines. Even if he has a the runs for a couple days it is better than putting any strain on his rectum.

 

[Zundap]

Get him on the boiled or steamed rice, scrambled eggs and either boiled or raw chicken, no bones for a few days. This will basically reset his digestive tract and it is easy to p$#@! through his intestines. Even if he has a the runs for a couple days it is better than putting any strain on his rectum.

Thanks DMikeM, thats roughly what i have been doing but i cooked the chicken, he is much better in himself, he is back to his normal cheeky tormenting ways, but he is still not yet clear of trouble.

The next to last time he pooped, his rectum partially prolapsed, just as in Hectors photo, but it went back in and his last poop he was ok, i'll see how it goes next time, if needs be i will give them the go ahead for the operation and hope for the best.

Re the photo's of Beck, i am still trying to get them on to the computer with no luck so far. I keep getting the message "looking for usb" and it does not go any further. I guess the USB socket may be faulty, i will try again this weekend.

Thanks again for your interest and help, its greatly apreciated. Thanks to everyone else also.

 

[Hector]

How was the poop when he had anal tissue sticking out, but went back in on its own? Maybe you try and get to make that kind of poop. Either softer or harder I don't know. Poor pup and human.

 

[Zundap]

How was the poop when he had anal tissue sticking out, but went back in on its own? Maybe you try and get to make that kind of poop. Either softer or harder I don't know. Poor pup and human.

His poop at that time was quite normal, perhaps just we bit looser than normal, but i think that the change of diet could account for that slight difference.

 

[Hector]

How is he?

 

[Zundap]

How is he?

So far, he has only partially prolapsed and it receeded back whence it came imediately after finishing his poop and that was some days ago, every poop since has been ok.

Iterestingly, i took him out this evening and when he finished his poop he had half of a polythene bag hanging out of his rectfum. It was only a small pollythene bag about the size i use for chicken breasts in the freezer, but i am now wondering how long that polythene bag has been there? I dont know where the heck he got the polythene bag from, mine are all accounted for, we had a pretty decent storm here in Britain a week or so ago and i thinking that the polly bag blew in to our garden and Beck picked it up before i saw it. Beck really is a scrounger though, if i ever forget to take my sandwhich in to the room with me, by the time i go back for it he has polished it off. Absolutely anything left on the kitchen work top is gone in seconds.

 

[DMikeM]

Interesting. The bag would not show up in an xray and could be the cause of his problems from the begenning.

 

[Hector]

So far, he has only partially prolapsed and it receeded back whence it came imediately after finishing his poop and that was some days ago, every poop since has been ok.

Iterestingly, i took him out this evening and when he finished his poop he had half of a polythene bag hanging out of his rectfum. It was only a small pollythene bag about the size i use for chicken breasts in the freezer, but i am now wondering how long that polythene bag has been there? I dont know where the heck he got the polythene bag from, mine are all accounted for, we had a pretty decent storm here in Britain a week or so ago and i thinking that the polly bag blew in to our garden and Beck picked it up before i saw it. Beck really is a scrounger though, if i ever forget to take my sandwhich in to the room with me, by the time i go back for it he has polished it off. Absolutely anything left on the kitchen work top is gone in seconds.

Well I'm glad there's some progress. Hopefully he won't need anymore surgeries. Poor guy.

 

[Zundap]

Hi every one, just thought i would let you know that the last operation failed for Beck, we had to go for the exploritory operation. Nothing wrong was found so they stitched Becks anal tube (if thats what it is called) to his stomach lining and once again its fingers crossed and hope it turns out to be permanant although that is unlikely. If this fails or when it fails, i will have to have him put to sleep, i just cant afford to keep paying these bills.

The operation plus pain killers and lactulos to keep his stools soft , plus two vists to have him checked post operatively cameout at just over £1000 add to that the previous medical operations plus medicines of near enough to £2OOO, taps out at a total £3000. Thats just the financial side of it, then most importantly the suffering that Beck has gone through makes it just not fair to go on with this. Every time his rectum prolapsed he was misserable, which of course tells me that he was in pain, I just have to hope her gets a few years out of it before it goes again.

Some flaming Christmas present eh, either way here's wishing you all a merry Christmas and health, wealth and happiness through 2014. Cheers guys and once again thanks for all your help and advice.

See you all in 2014 with a bit of luck. All the very best to you.

 

[Hector]

Bummer, sucks. Hoping for the best and Merry Christmas.

 

[musicdeb]

I'm so sorry to hear about the operation. Let's hope that it doesn't fail. Titan sends positive healing vibes to Beck with a HUGE hug!

Please keep us posted.

Happy Holiday to you and your family~

 

[Hector]

Have you contacted your breeder about this? Is your dog the only one that has this problem? Did the breeder offer to pay a portion or willing to replace you with another pup?

 

[musicdeb]

Good points, Linda!