Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

[Adjecyca]

Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I am asking cause i was looking online and couldn't fine any breeders of "Working Bull Mastiffs" Specifically bite work, i like the look of a lot of the Bull Mastiffs i have seen, but if i got a Mastiff or other Guardian breed, i would want to do bite work with it

 

[Mario]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I don't know that these breeders do bite work but saw them mentioned here a few weeks ago in a thread. I love the look of their dogs & how they use them based on their website. Nyx Bullmastiffs

Plus I love a brindle mastiff too.

I don't know that bullmastiffs have the temperament for bite work though? My impression is that they are more likely to knock down & pin an intruder/poacher like they were bred for. You might want to research a few other mastiff breeds? (I hesitate to mention the breeds I'm thinking of incase I'm off the mark- but there are a few other mastiff breeds frequently discussed here that seem more suited for it). I cannot imagine my BM doing bite work- though we'd never trained him or socialized him for that either

 

[ruby55]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

Bullmastiffs do not bite,per se. Their instinct is as Mario said. My 4 have the softest mouths & temperaments of any dog I've owned. You could check out Nyx bullmastiffs; they might have something like you're looking for. His dogs do fight & kill coyotes, so they might be appropriate for bite work too.

 

[Sinnister]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

As stated Bullmastiffs arent the best breed if you want to do bite work. They just weren't bred to do that sort of thing and it seems to have perpetuated to the modern bullmastiff. They can latch and hold but they use intimidation and their size more often than not.

To me, a working bullmastiff means something different than making it bite a sleeve. But then again I'm a complete amateur dog owner so what do I know.

 

[DMikeM]

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I was told the BM, RR and Boerboel are used in guarding the African Diamond mines (Blood Mines) but I can't find any documentation on the BM.

 

[bill arrington]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I agree with most comments I read. I did area and personal protection work for years. If you want a dog for Bite work, get a different dog. Bullmastiffs are bred for specific abilities . They are super biters when they do bite, but that is rare or last resort. Their other skills put them head and shoulders above all other dogs for certain guard work and confronting humans. You are wasteing and ruining a good Bullmastiff if you promote biting. Be careful what you wish for when asking a Bullmastiff to be a biter. I work my dogs, bill Arrington, Nyx Bullmastiffs

 

[DMikeM]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I did finally find documentation regarding BMs and guard work. They were not used as biters at all. They were developed to press and hold by shear mass, power and intimidation. De Beers used BMs and Boerboels as well as a couple other breeds for guard work in the Kelly Diamond mines. The Bullmastiffs were used to mostly intimidate would be thieves but were not known for biting. This is how some believe the BM became part of the BB breed.

 

[ruby55]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I agree with most comments I read. I did area and personal protection work for years. If you want a dog for Bite work, get a different dog. Bullmastiffs are bred for specific abilities . They are super biters when they do bite, but that is rare or last resort. Their other skills put them head and shoulders above all other dogs for certain guard work and confronting humans. You are wasteing and ruining a good Bullmastiff if you promote biting. Be careful what you wish for when asking a Bullmastiff to be a biter. I work my dogs, bill Arrington, Nyx Bullmastiffs

Bill! I'm assuming you saw my post re: your wonderful dogs! I didn't know you came here, I'm glad to see you. Your opinions will be greatly appreciated.

 

[Sinnister]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

I agree with most comments I read. I did area and personal protection work for years. If you want a dog for Bite work, get a different dog. Bullmastiffs are bred for specific abilities . They are super biters when they do bite, but that is rare or last resort. Their other skills put them head and shoulders above all other dogs for certain guard work and confronting humans. You are wasteing and ruining a good Bullmastiff if you promote biting. Be careful what you wish for when asking a Bullmastiff to be a biter. I work my dogs, bill Arrington, Nyx Bullmastiffs

There is a ton we can learn from your experience Bill. Thanks for being here.

 

[rcnd82]

Re: Are there still "Working Bull Mastiffs?"

Bill:

Our home backs up to a golf course in Florida (to which I am not a member). At night, my 5 1/2 month old BM and I will roam the golf course. We engage in a game of chase. I slowly move toward him from 10 yards away in a crouched position and as I get closer, I say "ready", "set", "go" and he chases me. Early on he was blocking my path. Lately, he is staring to jump at me and attempt to mouth (not really bite my arm). Am I creating a problem?

Next, how do you teach recall off leash?

Thanks.

Richard