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Almost 3 and some very sudden issues...

QY10

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Ok, I'd start with that before forking out money. What do u typically do with Oscar when ppl come over. What are your expectations for him? What do u do?Carpe Diem
Was this accidentally posted in the wrong thread? My dog is Angus. :) :p
 

QY10

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Well, I think Angus feeling calmer has made Thalia a whole lot more comfortable... I haven't seen this in a long time. Normally she avoids him like crazy.

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marke

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I think more times than not , your situation as I understood it , works itself out ....... folks have different experiences , therefore different perspectives . which as someone said is why a different set of experienced eyes actually seeing the problem is best , versus a video , or Skype , or a message board ....... I've accepted the fact dogs living together don't always get along , people living together don't always get along , and young dogs are the worst offenders , as are younger people ........ I personally go the route of doing as little as possible , letting them work it out themselves with subtle help from me , unless it gets dangerous , which I've found seldom happens to me .......this pic is last night , i'm sure today somebody won't get along , almost for sure one of the year old pups ....... I actually heard something that didn't sound really good as I wrote this reply , it stopped so I never checked it out .......I've since seen all 5 , so they appeared alright ............ one time I was keeping a girlfriends dog , she came over and her dog was missing a piece of his ear , actually it was hanging there ..... I told her that it must have just happened , we took the dog to the vet , they told us the injury was to old , probably the night before , and would require anesthesia and minor surgery , debriding and such to save it , it would be easiest just to remove the piece ........ the dog came back home and fitted right back in , and never lost anymore parts .......
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QY10

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It's true, dogs have a way of working things out themselves. I am just happy that things are getting worked out in my household... you could definitely feel the tension for a while between the dogs.That is a great looking pack you have. Looks like quite the comfortable cuddle puddle haha
 

Elsadogue

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I don't post much, but this thread made me think of my own experiences, with both DDB & our Pitbull. All of our dogs have been very sensitive to us, emotionally and our physical wellbeing. When I was pregnant our Pit suddenly did not tolerate anyone in my space other than my husband. And the week before I delivered she was freak show crazy over protective. At the time I felt good and there was a few weeks before my due date I had no clue labor was coming sooner than anticipated.
Both our DDB, the first a female was super diligent with the kids. We noticed when she got clingy to them aside from usual protective mode they lots of times came down with the flue or were not feeling well.
Finally as to aggression, our last DDB Tank was a true mama's boy, if I was stressed or sick or just off he was instantly in super protection mode. This was especially true with other dogs, once he was in this mode that was it he wanted to kill any dog that came even remotely near me.
Hope you find some answers with Angus, but also since it seems worse when you are present make sure you are ok and he doesn't know something you don't.


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QY10

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I don't post much, but this thread made me think of my own experiences, with both DDB & our Pitbull. All of our dogs have been very sensitive to us, emotionally and our physical wellbeing. When I was pregnant our Pit suddenly did not tolerate anyone in my space other than my husband. And the week before I delivered she was freak show crazy over protective. At the time I felt good and there was a few weeks before my due date I had no clue labor was coming sooner than anticipated. Both our DDB, the first a female was super diligent with the kids. We noticed when she got clingy to them aside from usual protective mode they lots of times came down with the flue or were not feeling well. Finally as to aggression, our last DDB Tank was a true mama's boy, if I was stressed or sick or just off he was instantly in super protection mode. This was especially true with other dogs, once he was in this mode that was it he wanted to kill any dog that came even remotely near me.Hope you find some answers with Angus, but also since it seems worse when you are present make sure you are ok and he doesn't know something you don't. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Thank you for the response. Your situation sounds very similar to my own. I am definitely going to have to take stock of the things going on in my own life and doing some more self-care to ensure I'm at my best.
 

Big Mutt Luva

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My male CC is almost 3 and has started the same behavior and it is stressful. I don't trust him at all now, because when he starts he just won't stop and it's a heck of a fight to break up. At first I thought they would work it out and thought the triggers were clear and I would avoid those. Then he jumped on my alpha female over a new toy. I have kept them separated now, although I have let them play outside and they got along fine. I don't let him on the bedroom because one of my sons comes to our room at night and I just don't trust him anymore. But if someone leaves a door open, or if we let him in when it's storming, one of the girls just lays there growling as long as he's in the room. I don't know the answer. I think I am going to neuter him to see if it will attenuate his dominate tendencies. I'm also trying to muzzle train him so I can transport them in the car together without so much worry. I've taken a lot of Season's advice with "back to basics" training and trying an e collar. Maybe I'm over reacting. I'm beginning to accept that we won't be one big dog pile family.
 

QY10

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The cause of Angus' aggression was most definitely the old house. We were having so many issues with the landlord doing illegal stuff and wanting to evict us.

What happened was that the laundry room flooded, which caused obvious damage. It also screwed up the breaker box. The landlord had given us permission to sublet the finished basement, which we did. The basement also flooded multiple times. We paid out of our own pocket to have the laundry room plumbing fixed, which was about $800. We showed the landlord the receipts and said we'd be deducting it off the rent, which is pretty normal. He called us liars and said we were just trying to avoid paying rent. Not true. He demanded we pay the full $2,000 in rent plus he was not going to reimburse us for fixing the plumbing.

Basement flooded 3 more times and we were continually called liars. The basement started growing mold and the tenants had the heat cranked to try to dry the place out. We pay for the heating, so our heating bill skyrocketed.

He ended up giving us an eviction notice because we couldn't afford to pay the $800 plumbing bill, plus $2,000 in rent, plus the massive heating bills.

So it went through arbitration and we ended up working out a deal with a landlord that we'd pay X amount to him and then start fresh, clean slate. The agreement was verbal between us, the landlord and an eviction service agency.

Then the landlord decides he doesn't like the deal and says the eviction stands, giving us 1.5 weeks to find a new place to live AND fully move out.

All the while, we are responsible for the people we are subletting to and the landlord allowed an old schizophrenic to live on the property in a trailer since August. It was an old coworker of Jason's who was supposed to pay US $400 a month, which was for pad rental and to help cover utilities. He never paid us and technically owes us about $2,000.

It took the landlord 2 years to stop calling us liars and actually empty the septic tank. The house still has plumbing issues which will never get fixed.

The landlord even sent someone to the house to beat up Jason, which didn't go over too well. There's a police file # for that. He refused to give us rent receipts, so even if we did suck it up and pay the full rent plus plumbing costs, he'd still evict us for nonpayment and there'd be no paper trail to prove it.

We didn't handle things properly, but in the end we were just spiteful and like, fuck you! He would constantly dangle our housing over our heads.. Threaten to evict us when we wanted things fixed etc... We never took it to residential tenancy because we were legit dreading having to find new housing that would allow 3 dogs. And even though he can't evict us for making a complaint, he can give a 2 month eviction stating he's having family move to the house, which I knew he'd do.

Needless to say, Jason and I fought a lot toward the end. Jason fought with Bruce, the schizophrenic, a lot (literally knocked his teeth out). And I don't say schizophrenic in a derogatory way... I work in mental health and the man needs serious help. I feel bad that him and jason got into a physical altercation, but Jason is not the most tolerant person. We also fought with the landlord a lot toward the end.

Anyways... We are at the new house. Angus has had no incidences of aggression. He lets Thalia crawl all over him. He engages in play with Thalia and Tashie. He snuggles on the dog beds with them and snuggles in bed with all of us. He's totally back to normal.


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JamieHalverson

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Holy crap! I am really sorry you had to deal with all that! I've been in some pretty crappy landlord situations, too. It can get incredibly stressful and when the thought of potentially looking for new housing with dogs, and then add that most of us have dogs that are either not allowed in rentals to size restrictions or breed... it can become so nutso. I'm glad you guys are through it and things are/have turned around for Angus. The sensitive ones can really be affected by our emotions.
 

QY10

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Holy crap! I am really sorry you had to deal with all that! I've been in some pretty crappy landlord situations, too. It can get incredibly stressful and when the thought of potentially looking for new housing with dogs, and then add that most of us have dogs that are either not allowed in rentals to size restrictions or breed... it can become so nutso. I'm glad you guys are through it and things are/have turned around for Angus. The sensitive ones can really be affected by our emotions.

The breed and size restrictions are crazy. It's funny because a lot of size restrictions are purely to nudge out bully breeds, but Thalia would slide right on through cause she's so petite. Angus and Tashie are a little more difficult. This time around, I actually had really great reception from people when I explained all I sports the dogs are in. I think it helped to demonstrate that they are running wild and misbehaved.

I always knew angus was sensitive. I guess the stress became 'normal' for us, but he reached his breaking point and started lashing out.


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