WalnutCrest
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I met someone that has the male pictured "hugos" daughter on a fb group that female according to them is 230@ 2 yrs old. My chin hit the keyboard.
Is there a "BS" emoticon? A 230lb bitch Mastiff would be phenomenally rare. I can think of three or four and I've been in Mastiffs nearly 20yrs.
So when I asked Gayle parent weights of this pups that im getting thats what she told me. Out of the 8 females she had the female picture d is double the size and her male hugo is literally the size of a lion. I cant argue weights bc I didnt see proof but bone/muscle weighs much more then fat.
The male has fine bone, no depth of chest, no width of chest, no depth of flank. He is a small Mastiff ... even if he's tall ... and even if he's bigger than most every other dog you've seen. He is not a substantial Mastiff.
While closer to being substantial, the dam is also fine-boned and her chest is not particularly wide or deep.
Again, you're not alone in relying on a breeders' assessment of a bitch or stud and their weight ... I did it when I bought my first Mastiff. You're not alone.
So not knowing heights of animals widenths ect I find it really hard to judge from a picture. Meeting these guys in person..promise you biggest dogs ive ever seen. I never even knew they got that big!
Yup ... even poorer specimens (phenotypically) are huge! And, even if they're poor phenotypes, they can be (and often are) wonderful companion pets....
...but I picked him out from 3 litters she has.
WHAT?!?!?!
She has three litters on the ground at the same time?!
...a huge red flag on the breeders' motives...
He just called my name.
The first pup (a sheltie) I ever had just did the same thing to me...I picked the runt out of a litter when I was five years old and could NOT be talked out of him.
Weve had a few hiccups in this transaction. Plus she extremely hard to reach so Im deffinitly weary and beginning to feel like I will be more selective when it comes to breeders 10 yrs down the road when shopping is near
Please be picky about your breeder. If you find the right breeder, you will eventually have the right dog.
After my first Mastiff pup, which I purchased from a back-yard-breeder with very questionable morals/ethics (but, I didn't know any better as I hadn't really done much more than a few weeks of research), I took my time when it was time to get another one. In fact, I took about two years of research before getting another pup. I wanted to do it 'right'.
Well, I got a great male ... but, even then, he wasn't what I was hoping for as he matured (his pelvis tilts forward, resulting in a croup that is too steep ... and he has too much dewlap, among a few other things). So, despite that I've been asked by others to allow them to breed to him several times, I've turned them all down. He doesn't have the phenotype I want.
Fast forward another two years ... and that's when we got our lovely Jade...she's a winner in the show ring, a winner in the home, a winner with the family and our other animals. And, she's a good mama (the two pups from her first litter just turned 1yr old two days ago).
If you don't know what I'm talking about, re: too much dewlap, steep croup, etc., then know you probably shouldn't get any more Mastiffs until you learn about it. It'll make you a better Mastiff lover -- the more you know about them (proper structure, etc.), the more you can care for (and love) them.
Welcome to the addiction! HA!!