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ExactlyIt is bad enough the number of good dogs are dwindling but then the two major players (CAFIB and non-CAFIB) discount the others efforts.Slim
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unfortunatley there are no "efforts" from one side at all... it is $ and nothing else. when they break away from the FCI and start concentrating on working dogs then they will be considered a legitimate source until then their shows demonstrate what they are looking for and that is anything that will bring the Fila to mainstream (touchable, profitable and ultimately no function). you can already see it when you hear of the complaints of judges disqualifying dogs for showing temp...you asked for it when you crossed breeds and demanded that to be the norm. BTW I named some CAFIB and some UNIFILA kennels that have working dogs in current use..... would anyone like to name some other bloodlines still in current use as working lines? (BTW I have pictures and video proof, please be honest and have the same handy...thank you).
Dogman i agree with you and don't agree with you at the same time. To clarify yes dogs have been disqualified for showing temprament by judges, specifically Linda Trustman who has no idea what the breed is about, for example one of the dogs named Al Capone do Lionsden was disqualified for showing strong temperament, but the same dog was awarded first place in another show by another judge. The problem with is that of unity and execution. By saying that there is no effort, your saying they haven't done anything, meaning a 0, i think what your trying to say is that they haven't done enough because the fact that they redid their standard merits more than a zero. Judges are not suppose to touch the dogs even in dog shows, the problem is they can't seem to get judges that are Familiar with The breed and instead get judges who have no idea and are given a quick rundown. So to state it again yes i agree with you to some extent, just not completely.
I have seen a judge google the Corso breed standard on their phone as the Corso's were entering the ring. It happens in all breeds.This, and it does not apply to just Fila.
I have seen a judge google the Corso breed standard on their phone as the Corso's were entering the ring. It happens in all breeds.
unfortunatley there are no "efforts" from one side at all... it is $ and nothing else. when they break away from the FCI and start concentrating on working dogs then they will be considered a legitimate source until then their shows demonstrate what they are looking for and that is anything that will bring the Fila to mainstream (touchable, profitable and ultimately no function). you can already see it when you hear of the complaints of judges disqualifying dogs for showing temp...you asked for it when you crossed breeds and demanded that to be the norm. BTW I named some CAFIB and some UNIFILA kennels that have working dogs in current use..... would anyone like to name some other bloodlines still in current use as working lines? (BTW I have pictures and video proof, please be honest and have the same handy...thank you).
I have seen a judge google the Corso breed standard on their phone as the Corso's were entering the ring. It happens in all breeds.
unfortunatley there are no "efforts" from one side at all... it is $ and nothing else. when they break away from the FCI and start concentrating on working dogs then they will be considered a legitimate source until then their shows demonstrate what they are looking for and that is anything that will bring the Fila to mainstream (touchable, profitable and ultimately no function). you can already see it when you hear of the complaints of judges disqualifying dogs for showing temp...you asked for it when you crossed breeds and demanded that to be the norm. BTW I named some CAFIB and some UNIFILA kennels that have working dogs in current use..... would anyone like to name some other bloodlines still in current use as working lines? (BTW I have pictures and video proof, please be honest and have the same handy...thank you).
Lol i used lions den as an example since it actually happened. The dog was disqualified for showing temperament. i don't want to get into defending anyone, You can see pictures of the show on facebook for yourself, if you go to granada filas you tube channel you can see videos of alcapone and for lions den they have some temperament tests on their youtube channel of 8 month old puppies and adults showing ojeriza.COOL, lets see it! I know Lions Den should have a million videos of that, I just haven't seen it.
No he meant zero. None. Nothing. Thats Juan. Extreme. He thinks he's gang banging. Cafib verse every other one in the world. In his mind he literally thinks there are 2 sides. His and the rest of the world. He cant wrap his ahead around the fact that many folks could breed, even breed to the cafib standard, and still not give two shits and even less respect to cafib. Or any other club for that matter. You could buy two of the best cafibs in the world, breed them, register them under ckbc, and they instantly become shit dogs.
Whoa! Chuck have you been mind raping me? how do you know what I think? OIfcourse when someone assumes they are usually wrong, case in point.