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What age will he stop growing?

Zundap

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Hi, i have an 8 months old male Boerboel pup and i am wondering if anyone could telll me at what age will he be fully grown?

Thanks for any replies.
 

Zundap

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Thanks for the reply Mike, could i just clarify, does the dog grow in hight up to 24 months. Its the hight i am thinking about.

He is pretty stocky so i dont have any real worries on that score, but i am not sure about the hight. At eight months he is 23/24 inch high, i thought this might be his final hight, which would leave him a smigin short of the 25 inch standard.

To be honest i do have some worries regarding the breed standard, i did buy him as a pet and guard dog, but hope to breed from him at some point in the furure, IF he achieves a good apraisal score.

I have noticed a few bad points already. I would never part with him of course, i love him to bits, he's a real caracter. I paid pretty much top whack for him at UK prices and i had big hopes for him, but now i am not so sure.

I have to say, he is a real babe magnet, the ladies just cant walk past him with out stopping, to stroke him and asking rakes of questions about him. :)

Thanks again for the reply.
 

DMikeM

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Yep the BB is a real chick magnet for sure.

He should even out at about 17 to 18 months. Front to back. If he is still Butt High he is not done, they usually have a flat back shoulders and butt the same height unless there is a calcium imbalance during growth. Then it can take much longer for him to even out. 26 to 27 inches for males last I looked, 24 for females. Jade is 24.5. Are you going by the BUK standard? If so ask Sandra she will tell you 28 inches at least and 180 lbs at least. (Just being critical it's not that bad really). At 8 months there is no telling what will happen they are all out of proportion for awhile.
 

Zundap

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Yep the BB is a real chick magnet for sure.

He should even out at about 17 to 18 months. Front to back. If he is still Butt High he is not done, they usually have a flat back shoulders and butt the same height unless there is a calcium imbalance during growth. Then it can take much longer for him to even out. 26 to 27 inches for males last I looked, 24 for females. Jade is 24.5. Are you going by the BUK standard? If so ask Sandra she will tell you 28 inches at least and 180 lbs at least. (Just being critical it's not that bad really). At 8 months there is no telling what will happen they are all out of proportion for awhile.

Thanks for a very thorough rely Mike.

Do the UK have their own standard? I assumed that all countries bred to the original SA standard. I am a complete beginner with Boerboels, so have no idea at all.
 

DMikeM

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Thanks for a very thorough rely Mike.

Do the UK have their own standard? I assumed that all countries bred to the original SA standard. I am a complete beginner with Boerboels, so have no idea at all.

Seems all the orgs have a little different idea of what the breed standard should be. Pretty soon the orgs won't have a real say as the RSA (African Authority) is going to join EBBASA and BI into one org known as the BBS-RSA (Boerboel Breed Society). SABBA/SABT will have to re-register all their dogs into this new org to be recognized also the odd color Boerboel will no longer be recognized and if BUK wants their dogs to be recognized by the BBS they will have to fall in line and stop breeding these giant crap dogs. Right now the best standard to follow is the one EBBASA has posted. I can get you a copy of the new BBS constitution that has the new (original) standard in it if you like.
 

HayleyMarie

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Its so interesting and confusing what is going on right now with all the orgs. I am excited to see what happens. It will be interesting for sure. I am really interested to find out what they do with the black "boerboel"
 

Zundap

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Sorry to be so late in replying DMikem, i have to work away at short notice sometimes.

I am no expert with dogs, but I would think it far better to have just one standard, it has to be less confusing for people like myself who have little or no experience at all with Boerboels.

You say that UK Breeders are growing bigger dogs, the chap i bought my pup off did actually say that the mother to my pup is on the big side, i do hope my pup does not get too big. Are you in SA?

Thanks for the offer, i would very much like a copy. Thanks very much indeed.
 

Zundap

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I am in the USA. BUK and Australia claim to follow the SABT standard but that standard has been changed a few times since 1984. EBBASA follows the original SABT standard to this day.
I am not sure this link will work. If not I will try to move it to my profile and share it as public.
https://www.facebook.com/download/558513237553207/20130801 Constitution BBS(RSA 1) (1).pdf

The link worked perfectly, i will give it a read later, thanks for that DMikeM its greatly apreciated.

If your Boerboel has been bred to a different standard to mine, i guess your's would be the better looking dog, America seems to have some briliuant breeders, the American Akita and the American Doberman are two good examples of that.

Do you have a picture of your dog here on the forum somewhere?

Thanks again for the link.
 

DMikeM

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She is just a typical Boerboel. Medium build with a fawn coat.
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Jade- 2013
Jade
 

dogman#1

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looks like the SAB has many of the same issues regarding standards as the Fila does.. good luck to you guys.
 

DMikeM

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looks like the SAB has many of the same issues regarding standards as the Fila does.. good luck to you guys.

The SAB SABT/SABBA are actually under duress from the AIA and Registrar in Africa. They have been told they can not export anymore dogs until a court case is resolved and a RA is selected.
The EBBASA, BI, and KUSA have agreed to combine and select an RA and the Registrar is in agreement with that move. If the SABT do not join this movement all the dogs registered through them will be unregistered and if the owners want to have papered dogs they will need to register with the BBS-RSA. Everyone thinks the SABT will not make the move because the black dogs will no longer be accepted and all black dogs including offspring will lose their registration status. This is a huge hit to an industry that the SABT has developed as some of it's board members breed and sell black dogs. And they sell them at an obscene price. 5 to 8 thousand US dollars in not unheard of.
 
thats a shame whats going on with this breed and black dogs , i dont understand why its the big deal. i just started reading about a couple of weeks ago so there might be something am not aware of
 

DMikeM

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Well the big deal is the black dogs were introduced around 2001 with no known lineage. Meaning it could be a black lab or a Noe, or a Cane Corso mixed with the BB. This means a change in conformity, temperament and purity. The breed standard was established in 1984 and it stated all colors of brown, fawn and brindle except black. They made it clear that black dogs were not part of the breed. After Pet Shop Jim (first black dog) was introduced and had offspring there was a meeting and the board told the breeder to stop breeding black dogs. He did not and some of the board officers became involved in the money pot known as the Black Boerboel. Then they voted to change the Breed Standard to meet the requirements that they needed to prosper. It was around that time that the top founding members of SABT broke off and and made KUSA and EBBASA following the original intent and standards set forth by the Boerboel Founding Fathers.
So that being said, the Black dog is not a Boerboel, there are no pictures or documentation of a black boerboel before 2000 or 1980. If documentation and photos should arise then we will have to eat crow but the standard still sits that a black Boerboel is an automatic DQ.
 

Zundap

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She is just a typical Boerboel. Medium build with a fawn coat.
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Jade- 2013
Jade



Wow she is a beauty and no mistake, she has the same type of head as my dog, i have noticed from photo's that there areat least two different kinds of heads. This is the same with most breeds, if not all i think.

I notice your dog has very straight front lags with small paws as they are supposed to be and that is where i have a worry, my pup has really big paws and his front legs are no where near as straight as your dog. I am hoping that his legs may straighten as he grows. I know that can happen, as a German Shephard i had some years a go did exactly that. So its fingers crossed on that point.

When i bought my pup, the breeder guaranteed he would get a score of at least in the mid 80's in the apraisals, i hope that is right and not just sales talk. As i said before though, i would never get rid of him, i love him to bits. He absolutely loves kids, whenever he sees them he pulls like billio to get to them and he so gentle with them any dog that loves kids this much cant be a bad dog at all in my book.

My dog was the same colour as yours when i first got him, thats the colour i like most, but now he has dark black...ish hair on the insides of all his legs and on his chest. When i say black hair, its like a very thin top coat and the under coat is still fawn/brown showing through.

I will post a photo as soon as i can, i would like your opinion of him if you dont mind.

Thanks again for all your advise, i genuinely apreciate it. :)
 

DMikeM

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Jade is a tall 24" and she is a combination of the old style farm BB and the newer beefier BB. As many of the breeders have said she has a perfect form and her legs and feet are perfection. I got really lucky. Something that I was told is do not over do it with calcium or protein if the legs are not straight or if the pasterns are collapsed. And make sure to give fish oil and vitamin C (Esther C works great) this will help on bowed legs or flipper feet also keeping the nails short help to prevent splayed feet and flippers.