Vintage Collars & collar museum pics

[OdeMX]

Vintage Collars & collar museum pics

found these old links on my office PC, personally I don't like that much the new handcrafted collars, but I love the antique pics of dogs and the pics of the collar museum.

http://olicollars.blogspot.mx/
http://harrisandwatson.webs.com/boarhoundrange.htm
http://www.thenautilus.it/Catalogo%20Artificialia/Varie/Cat_Collar_dog.html
http://www.flickr.com/photos/fotoflow/2463901583/
http://www.antiquepooch.com/antique_dog_collars.html
http://www.rubylane.com/item/161834-14219/Vintage-Studded-Leather-Dog-Collar

As soon as Juno grows Ill go to a local tanner to build a vintage replica.

 

[Smart_Family]

Re: Vintage Collars & collar museum pics

Once Tess and Azlin are full grown we will be investing in some Paco collars. That ruby lane one is very interesting!

 

[OdeMX]

That ruby lane one is very interesting!

My favorite, but not at that price! Could prolly buy a complete handcrafted leather saddle for that price here!

 

[Smart_Family]

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Haha I agree! Still pretty cool looking though!

 

[Ghostsword]

The Harris Colars are amazing!! I really like them, great for outings.


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[NeoBull]

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As soon as Juno grows Ill go to a local tanner to build a vintage replica.

Post pics when you do! Maybe I can have you order me one too!

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My favorite, but not at that price! Could prolly buy a complete handcrafted leather saddle for that price here!

That one's an actual antique though right?

 

[NeoBull]

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My favorite, but not at that price! Could prolly buy a complete handcrafted leather saddle for that price here!

That one's an actual antique though right?

 

[Kelly]

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Boy they weren't messing around with those spikes back in those days!

 

[Ghostsword]

Boy they weren't messing around with those spikes back in those days!

Shocking he?! They meant business.


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[OdeMX]

Post pics when you do! Maybe I can have you order me one too!

I'll be glad, too.

 

[ravendarat]

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I gotta be honest, these do nothing for me. Although to be fair I don't like spikes on collars anyways, especially on big dogs. People who are ignorant of big dogs like mastiffs to start with don't need another reason to be scared of them. Thats just my feeling on them at least

 

[OdeMX]

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That one's an actual antique though right?

Ohh you right, the descriptions reads "[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, sans-serif]I believe this was probably from England in the early 1900's" I thought it was just a superb replica, hahaha!

[/FONT]The old one with badger hair looks awesome too.

 

[NeoBull]

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Ohh you right, the descriptions reads "I believe this was probably from England in the early 1900's" I thought it was just a superb replica, hahaha!

The old one with badger hair looks awesome too.

Yeah, those were popular in Italy, very different.

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I gotta be honest, these do nothing for me. Although to be fair I don't like spikes on collars anyways, especially on big dogs. People who are ignorant of big dogs like mastiffs to start with don't need another reason to be scared of them. Thats just my feeling on them at least

I totally agree when it comes to spikes, they're just over the top on breeds like this, but there are pleanty of vintage collars without them that I just LOVE. While I'm not into spikes, I don't mind studs

 

[NeoBull]

Re: Vintage Collars & collar museum pics

I gotta be honest, these do nothing for me. Although to be fair I don't like spikes on collars anyways, especially on big dogs. People who are ignorant of big dogs like mastiffs to start with don't need another reason to be scared of them. Thats just my feeling on them at least

I totally agree when it comes to spikes, they're just over the top on breeds like this, but there are pleanty of vintage collars without them that I just LOVE. While I'm not into spikes, I don't mind studs

 

[OLI COLLARS]

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Back in the turn of the century and well before, the dog played a very different role. They were mostly working, guarding and hunting. Protective spikes were needed by a lot of breeds when managing herds. Back then there wasn't the population density we have today, there was much more farm land, and thus these dogs were needed in specific roles. Certain mastiffs were used to pin livestock, and wild game. Spikes were developed for the purpose of the dog's protection-not for decoration. Many dogs were at a disadvantage against a pack of wolves, and the spikes at least gave the dog a fighting chance. I realize today there are many collars with spikes used for the decorative, and even intimidation features, but it is still very needed in certain parts of the world.

To dismiss all spiked collars, and to lay blame on the owner for buying them is an unfair assumption. I myself choose not to make very many spiked collars unless they are specifically requested, and it is usually by a customer who wants to recreate certain elements of a past culture. That being said, I was contacted by a customer one time regarding a spiked collar that I had made for her, and she stated that her dog was involved in a vicious attack by another large breed. The spiked collar kept her dog from sustaining damage to the neck, she was very thankful that I made the piece for her. This might be a personal preference regarding spiked collars, but they do serve a purpose, and not all owners are irresponsible for buying them. I have a cane corso and bull mastiff, and they are fitted with spiked collars at night time because I live on an acreage on a mountain side. My lads are in constant contact with coyotes sometimes a bear and whatever else, and at least the spiked collar offers somewhat of a protection to the vulnerable throat area.

Bottom line is spiked collars can be used as a tool, and is not always used for a decorative intimidation feature.

Luis

 

[OdeMX]

To dismiss all spiked collars, and to lay blame on the owner for buying them is an unfair assumption.

Thank you Luis, great contribution, specially considering you are an expert on the subject.

I worked on safety/live saving industry for almost 10 years, and probably I end up contaminated and see danger where there isn't, so I would never buy/craft a spiked collar, probability of accident is extremely high even for an experienced handler, or a dumb slow show dog.

But, if I didn't had kids, I would put spiked collars to my dogs. Don't care what people thinks about big breeds or stuff like that...

Anyway, kudos on your lorica and badger/horse hair collars, they look nice. Have you tried designing a vintage looking boar hunting vest? Or a tough looking "illusion collar"?

 

[ravendarat]

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I maybe wasn't clear. Im not saying that people that put spike collars on their dogs are evil or anything, I was just saying that when dogs are intimidating to start with, I feel no need to make them even more so by having a spike collar. If people wanna use them thats totally up to them and its not like I am gonna turn my nose up to them or anything, I just won't buy one myself. For my situation I also don't see me having my dog in a situation where the protection aspect is gonna come into play.

 

[OLI COLLARS]

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I wouldn't say I am an expert, but I do a lot of research, and I am always interested in the vintage works. I appreciate the history and try to always educate myself when designing a piece with cultural context.

To answer your questions, first regarding the illusion collar-I have a traditional piece on my blog that I made for an akita. This piece is very close to the way the illusion collar is set up, and in fact you could even call it the first type of illusion collar. These were used for better handling of the dog, and to keep the long hair from interfering.
I haven't done any traditional hunting vests as of yet, I have been approached various times to make an armored war harness used in the Colosseum days. Unfortunately Neos and Corso were used to fight wild game for show, and thus had to wear elaborate-at least by today's standards, protective gear. I have seen many of the hunting vests in padded nylon-this might be preferable over leather just because nylon is harder to pierce with tusks. Leather might be at a disadvantage unless it is fortified with metal plating to prevent injuries.

I am making a neat dog cart pulling harness. These are hardly ever used anymore today, and I have a customer that is resurrecting an antique dog cart.

Thanks.

 

[OdeMX]

Thank you for your reply and honesty, I'm far from and expert in hunting matter, I thought nylon was used to diminish handcraft cost.

Tbh, I had the idea that leather was superior since it should provide some sort of bludgeon and piercing protection and still lighter than nylon + metal.

Do you have a Facebook or email account to contact you? Mind if I keep asking stuff? Prolly it's published in your blog, but I'm in the middle of a BBQ and half drunk.

 

[Ghostsword]

Thanks Luis... Great posts.

In Portugal farm dogs and shepperd dogs still wear colars with spikes, protection against wolves, and other dogs.

How long does it take you to do a colar? Also vests with nylon and stab proof material would be good for hunting boar vests.


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